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mtdewbob February 15th, 2019 6:08am

The 9th Circuit Court almost assuredly will say something about President Trump’s actual executive order to declare a National Emergency. Supreme Court will shoot that down due to the 1976 National Emergency Act but how long will that take.

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
02/15/19 12:08 pm

Who will be dialing in to the SCOTUS hearing wearing a RBG mask?

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TomM
02/15/19 11:15 am

I am listening to Hugh Hewitt, he just said 6 months through SCOTUS. You can decide if that's fast or not.

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raidadave Washington
02/15/19 9:41 am

The wall will never be built and trump knows it. This is all semantics for his gullible base.

Jazzy5 USA
02/15/19 6:39 am

Here’s a brain fart:

I don’t think the 9th circuit will shoot it down.

Hopefully, I’ll recover from this!

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Malekithe Resist
02/15/19 5:24 am

He should not sign it.
He should declare a national emergency and use some funds to pay critical personnel.
Then if the courts block it, the Democrats are keeping people from getting paid.
Trump needs to go scorched earth and reveal the true corruption in DC.
🔥 it the phuck down

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Malekithe Resist
02/15/19 5:24 am

Ignore their order

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kscott516 Masks fail
02/15/19 4:49 am

It will be quick. My guess will be mid March.

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kscott516 Masks fail
02/15/19 5:41 am

It’s a power of the president to use the military to protect the United States. We also have the SCOTUS.

handsyjo
02/14/19 11:22 pm

The 1976 national emergency act was about giving congress the power to end a national emergency... The president had already been granted this power, the the 1976 act was about limiting it.

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handsyjo
02/14/19 11:24 pm

The president has all the power in the world to declare a national emergency. A court can't stop that, they can however it does not grant him the power to build a wall as it will not be considered a military installment as the military will not be overseeing it.
That's where the courts will come in and stop it and the 1976 act has nothing to do with that.

mtdewbob Arizona
02/14/19 11:31 pm

Did you read the act? Apparently not. The first paragraph gives the “executive extraordinary powers”. Suggest you read the act🙄

handsyjo
02/14/19 11:32 pm

Also in accordance with Youngstown sheet &tube co vs Sawyer. The supreme court ruled that the president could not seize ANY private property just by declaring a state of emergency. By declaring a state of emergency even if Trump could build his wall... Where could he build it? Much of the border and the land that Trump wants to put his wall through is all private property

handsyjo
02/14/19 11:33 pm

I read that... I also kept reading and read what those powers included. Hence the military installation bit...

handsyjo
02/14/19 11:39 pm

Also... Let's say this scenario plays out exactly like you say it does. By the time it gets to the supreme court, a year will already have passed and congress will have been able to vote to end Trump's state of emergency..

kscott516 Masks fail
02/15/19 4:51 am

The Army Corps of Engineers will be building it.

mtdewbob Arizona
02/15/19 5:32 am

handjob, you really need to read the 1976 act and do your research before opening your dumbass mouth.🙄

mtdewbob Arizona
02/15/19 6:01 am

Handjob, statute, 33 U.S. Code § 2293, says: "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

Another law, 10 U.S. Code § 2808, dictates: "Construction authority in the event of a declaration of war or national emergency," permits the secretary of defense, in a presidentially declared emergency, to use "funds that have been appropriated for military construction" for the purpose of undertaking "military construction projects."

handsyjo
02/15/19 6:05 am

Kscott, that doesn't make it a military installment... Just simply a government project.

Bob reread what you just said. "AUTHORIZED civil projects, military installations and civil defense". now I know in your world the wall is a defense from some invasion, but in the real world the wall does not fall into any of those specifications

handsyjo
02/15/19 6:06 am

Kscott border patrol is not a branch of the military

kscott516 Masks fail
02/15/19 6:13 am

Excellent, Bob! 👏🏻

Joe, once the president declares a national emergency it becomes an authorized civil work. He has the authority to use the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall, and he will. Yes, an invasion.

mtdewbob Arizona
02/15/19 6:35 am

Handjob, once President Trump declares a national emergency on the southern border the funds allocated for the wall come from the following thus far: $1.37billion Border Security Bill; $600million from the Treasury Department; $2.5 billion from the Defense Department; $3.5billion from the Defense Department construction fund.

mtdewbob Arizona
02/15/19 6:38 am

The Democrats are poised to put up a rejection bill immediately following which will pass in the house but may not pass in the Senate 51 votes. President Trump has veto powers to veto that rejection bill. To override a veto the Senate would then have to vote 67 to 33 in favor of overriding President trump’s veto.🤣

handsyjo
02/15/19 8:43 am

Ooookay. Y'all obviously think y'all are constitutional law scholars over here cause you read some opinion article that said trump can do what he wants... Who am I to disagree...except for my years of studying..
By the way, no just because he says it's authorized doesn't mean it is. If that were the case they wouldn't state it had to be an authorized project...

handsyjo
02/15/19 8:44 am

Yall are over here acting like the president really has the power to become a dictator on a whim...

handsyjo
02/15/19 8:57 am

Lol trunp and the costs for his wall... 30 billion, to 20 billion to 5 billion and now all of a sudden he has 8 billion. Y'all are a trip lol

kscott516 Masks fail
02/15/19 9:36 am

If he were a dictator he would’ve done it without Congress to begin with.

It’s getting built anyway so you might as well make peace with it now.

mtdewbob Arizona
02/14/19 11:13 pm

The 1976 National Emergency act giving the president the authority to declare a national emergency based on just about anything and to provide limited funding for that national emergency. The question is how long will take the Supreme Court to hear arguments to overturn the 9th Circuit Court. The Supreme Court would have no other choice but to overturn the 9th Circuit based strictly off the 1976 Act gives the president the authority to declare a national emergency based off just about anything.

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mtdewbob Arizona
02/14/19 11:15 pm

My best guess is one year from the time the ninth circuit court overturns the presidents authority to declare a national emergency.🙄