4JC Christian Pastors Wife
02/03/19 6:41 pm
💠 voc asked:
According to a user, God has predetermined our thoughts and actions, thereby eliminating free will. If there’s no free will and no one has a choice in their actions and thoughts, would anyone go to hell?
02/03/19 12:19 pm
Hey The Voc, what do you use in your beard (besides snow)? I’m doing the shadow thing and was told that I need to make it softer. Plus I guess making it look better wouldn’t hurt either. I’m using Geo F Trumper’s skin food at the moment, but it’s not really for that I don’t think. Anyway, figured I’d ask the expert.
Talren Solidarity Forever
02/03/19 10:54 am
This poll just reaffirms for me that the concept of hell is pure retribution and makes no attempt to uphold real justice. The absence of “free will” only poses a problem for retributive punishment — after all, how can punishing a wrongdoer be giving them what they “deserve” if they never chose to do wrong and are not accountable for their own actions? On the other hand, the other 4 forms of punishment, deterrence, incapacitation, rehabilitation, and restitution (or the way I see it, the 4 legitimate forms of punishment), still make just as much sense even if the person being punished did not freely “choose” to behave badly in a libertarian sense.
02/03/19 10:32 am
If God determined and controlled our thoughts and actions, man would never sin against God. So I think that's a false premise, God doesn't really control our thoughts and actions. But he does KNOW what well choose to do. He knows where well end up, and what decisions we'll make, but I don't think he CONTROLS our decision making/thoughts in the conventional sense. He may intervene from time to time with subtle suggestions to keep us on the right path, but he doesn't entirely control our thoughts and actions
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