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This is why I don’t believe in predestination, Voc. If God was just going to decide who was going to be saved and who wasn’t, there would have been NO NEED for Jesus to have died on the cross to save us from our sins, or for him to rise from the dead, to allow us to spend eternity in Heaven, instead of in Hell.

The Bible CLEARLY states numerous times that we have free will, that everyone has to decide for themselves whether to accept Jesus or not, etc.

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See below.

Whoa, these people are deluded.

I was expecting some stupid thing about mercy and how everyone is saved but instead I got pretty much what I was thinking: it's actually because the god of the bible is a psychopath

The way I understand it, that’s FOREKNOWLEDGE, which is different from predestination, that says that God chooses whom to save.

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Olive oil

I have a cupboard full like all good Italians 🇮🇹

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Thanks dude.

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Right on, thank you.

“You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?" On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?”
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,” (Romans 9:19-23).

Last part got cut off:
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,” (Romans 9:19-23).
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Very well explained - what people don’t understand is that we are all deserving of Hell. There is no injustice by God. There is only a just punishment or mercy. All is done by His sovereign judgment.

Exactly!
God is just in everything He does because He is the creator and we are merely His handiwork. He sets the rules and we are to obey them without question. I like to explain this to my daughters using their Barbie dolls. I ask them “would it make sense for that Barbie doll, after you’ve dressed her, to suddenly exclaim ‘why did you dress me this way?!’”. Of course not. The Barbie dolls were created for the express purpose of being playthings for young girls, just as we are created for the sole purpose of serving God.
It’s good to finally see someone on this app who understands the word of God. WAY too many lukewarm or straight-up freezing Christians on here.

Great illustration. Now, tell your daughters to try to get their Barbie dolls to “accept” a gift.

That I will 😂

Believe*

I can’t reveal my sources.

But you can find your answer in the soh question about saving and spending

It was Russian hackers

Pretty sure servant of god is thatguy2’s alt

Whoever he is, he’s really fucked in the head.

He’s in the right place then

I responded in the thread. He has a lot of stuff right. I clarified his point on actions that seemed to be the point of confusion.

“He has a lot of stuff right”

Ohhhhh

Yeah! He did a good job on explaining God’s sovereignty. I just corrected his post that relates to sanctification but not a bad job at all

Me either and I'm wondering if it's the same person who said God already determined who would go to heaven and who goes to hell.

I think it is. You can see him up above.

Thanks. I should have looked first.

Damn right