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political February 3rd, 2019 4:15am

Let’s pretend Ralph Northam dressed up as a KKK member in 1984. Let’s also pretend that Ralph apologized for doing this. Should he resign then? Please do not allow other issues such as his stance on murdering babies to influence this vote.

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
02/04/19 9:48 pm

I'm acting like the Republicans did with Kavanaugh. I'm just sitting back and giggling like an idiot watching them lose it

azsageguy
02/03/19 10:38 am

Since I don’t live in that state, I don’t have a say in the matter.

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Liberty 4,032,064
02/03/19 7:58 am

I don’t really care if he dressed up and went to a DNC meeting at some in his life.

That said, it’s nice to see them getting a taste of their own medicine. Poetic justice.

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Liberty 4,032,064
02/03/19 8:40 am

Although if he did ever smile at some point in his life then he’s obviously a racist and should be harassed and assaulted along with all of his friends.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
02/03/19 7:05 am

No. It was a dumb thing a long time ago. People change and grow

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JudicialJedi321 This is How Liberty Dies
02/02/19 11:30 pm

If he were a republican he wouldn’t have even been given a chance to explain himself before a chorus of people on both sides of the isle began demanding his resignation, or his head.
The fact that this is even a question serves to highlight the disgusting hypocrisy of the left.
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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
02/03/19 1:22 am

^^^ This, a thousand times, this ^^^

nicnerd
02/03/19 1:14 pm

Umm, there actually IS a chorus of people from both sides calling for his resignation and his head. You comment makes no sense. Party does not matter, no racist should be serving in public office, and no, it does not matter how long ago it was.

JudicialJedi321 This is How Liberty Dies
02/03/19 2:18 pm

Yet the fact that he’s still in office indicates to me that the pressure from the left is not nearly what it should be.
They waited. That’s the difference. Many politicians refused to comment when the picture was found and offered him the chance to explain it away. A chance no republican has ever, or will ever be given. Democrats only care about self preservation, racism can be overlooked and ignored if it is not called out.

They had grand kleagle robert Byrd in their ranks for decades. Racist democrats like al gore Sr. Willam Fulbright, and many others never left the party, but because of storm Thurmond and one or two others it’s the Republican Party: the party of Lincoln, the party that brought the civil rights act over the finish line when the aforementioned Racist democrats filibustered it, that is consistently slandered as racist, sexist, or bigoted.

We’re just tired of these double standards, the long history of racist democrats gets swept under the rug...

JudicialJedi321 This is How Liberty Dies
02/03/19 2:23 pm

While every four years the media turns taking the words of republicans out of context into some sort of sport.

If Northam was a Republican this story would be the leading headline around the country, and EVERY republican would be asked about it. If they said “let’s wait and see”, they too would be thrown under the bus and this would be seen as just further evidence that the party as a whole is innately racist.

Instead this will be forgotten in a few months time, and will be treated as an enigma, dirt on the man not the party. That is what we are sick of. It is nothing less than hypocrisy.
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xxxceo Nationalist
02/03/19 4:13 pm

Jedi I agree with you, but this isn’t the lefts fault, it’s our fault. There’s too many “principled” conservatives who would rather lose with their principles than win by any means necessary. It’s the same ones who’d rather lose with Kasich than win with Trump.
There’s a name for these people - losers.
Politics is a blood sport and I wish more conservatives would realize that.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
02/03/19 10:48 pm

“There’s too many “principled” conservatives...”

“Politics is a blood sport and I wish more conservatives would realize that.”

Yup. Yup.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
02/02/19 11:21 pm

He shouldn’t resign anyway. What he did in 84 doesn’t really concern or affect me.

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
02/02/19 10:50 pm

My question is, when do we start holding every bad behavior against a person for life? Alec Baldwin punched a cameraman and used homophobic slurs in the not so distant past. Should we now consign him to the junk heap? What if Miley Cyrus wants to run when she’s 60, married for 30 years and has grandkids? Are we going to say, you can’t because you twerked and we’re disgusting in your 20’s?
This is a man who was a successful neurological pediatrician before he became a politician. Was the photo in poor taste. Absolutely! Should every good thing he has ever done be scratched because as a stressed out medical school student, he let off some steam? No. He should apologize. Own it (though it seems that Ship has sailed and he was not on it). Move on.

I don’t care that he’s a democrat or a republican. He’s not texting pictures of his junk to little girls. He’s not a serial killer. He’s not a rapist. It appears he made a mistake 34 years ago. Sure, let’s hang him. 🙄🙄

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Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 11:30 pm

Where would you draw the line on being fair for calling for his resignation? I get that this could be too far in the past but how recent would it need to be to be in the wrong in your opinion?

RussianThunder Russia and USA
02/03/19 12:12 am

I don’t have an answer for that either.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/03/19 12:24 am

Yeah, idk if my question was fair to begin with because I don’t know that there’s a true answer.

missmorganmarie ...
02/02/19 10:49 pm

yes he should. he first said it was him but he wasnt sure which was him, then he said it wasnt him in the picture then he said he was the one in blackface.

liar

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BriDads Stop Getting Offended
02/02/19 9:33 pm

If the governor did solely dress up as a Klansman in the mid 1980s, he shouldn’t have to resign because of what he did in college. However when saying this, I expect the same for republicans which is just not going to happen sadly. The main reason is that it was in the past, he was in college, and was surrounded by very rural views. Coming 20 years after the end of the Civil Rights Movement, you shouldn’t expect offensive propaganda to vanish in completely. It takes generations for our views to change and it’s a gradual process. Even people today still feel the confederacy should return. However, back to the governor, he did probably lie about how he’s not in the picture because all of the other pictures show him and it’s his yearbook page. Now, the main point I want to stress is that past events shouldn’t be judged by today’s standards. It was a different time and we need to realize that and how it might have been acceptable then, even though it isn’t tolerated in today’s society.

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jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
02/02/19 9:32 pm

Yes. We don’t need elected officials who can’t determine that it’s not okay to wear blackface or klan robes in their mid-twenties.

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political Georgia
02/02/19 9:43 pm

At some point though, y’all are going to have to forgive people who commit the unforgivable sin of doing or saying something racist, especially if an apology is made. I agree that any racist action is wrong but so are many other things. I mean think about it. Politicians can cheat and lie, and their career isn’t ruined. Nevertheless, if they say or do something racist, their career is terminated essentially.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
02/02/19 10:52 pm

Yeah and if you look closely, I don’t think it’s a klan robe. I think it’s a bathrobe and a homemade hood.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
02/03/19 8:32 am

RT, it doesn’t matter whether the klan robe was “official” or not; it carries the same weight. Weird defense, mate.

political Georgia
02/02/19 9:22 pm

Let’s not forget - Democrats had a Former KKK member in the Senate within this century. No one called on his resignation. Granted, he apologized for his actions, but that’s the same scenario I’m presenting here.

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
02/02/19 10:53 pm

Good point. Wasn’t he the guy Hillary Clinton called “my mentor”.

political Georgia
02/02/19 9:19 pm

I get it. Ralph is a monster. I think he should resign after advocating for murdering babies, but I’ll follow my own rules and answer the question.

I find it ridiculous that liberals can be so high on the values he stands for until they find out he might have done some things to poke fun at black people 30 years ago. In other words, the only thing that changed their minds about him was some action that might have taken place 30 years ago. They do not play with any type of action that might offend their minority base at all.

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Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 9:17 pm

Yes, he should.

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political Georgia
02/02/19 9:20 pm

Why Assuming if he apologized? I mean we all have probably at the slightest said something or did something that would be offensive to some group.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 9:30 pm

I agree that there’s not a clear line when comparing societal norms from 30 years ago to today, but feel that making light of the kkk would have still been wrong at the time.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 9:31 pm

I also don’t think an apology means anything without action. Someone can apologize for being an alcoholic, but that means very little unless they take action to change.

political Georgia
02/02/19 9:36 pm

I’m assuming that you were calling for Robert Byrd’s resignation not too long ago?

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 9:59 pm

I’ll assume you aren’t trying to use my stance on a different issue against this one and answer honestly. No, the name sounded familiar but I had to google him to know what you were talking about. If it’s the democrat senator with the kkk that pulled up then no it looks like he died before I was even out of school.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 10:02 pm

Does that change your opinion of my stance on this issue?

political Georgia
02/02/19 10:07 pm

I mean, I’m just find the values that the left stands for to be backwards. If a politician has an affair, lies, etc, his/her career isn’t ruined. Nevertheless, anything racist (yes - racism is wrong) is never forgiven while other wrongful actions are easily and readily defended or minimized.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 10:26 pm

If I had to make an argument as to why I’d say affairs are only affecting a few people whereas racism shows an indifference to a large number of people.

Just imagine both in the private sector. An affair is something the family takes personal and deals with whereas a racism isn’t confined to the home.

*I don’t think anyone’s more truthful so I took out lies

political Georgia
02/02/19 10:37 pm

If we’re measuring the action by how many people are emotionally hurt, then sure. Nevertheless, I don’t know if wearing a KKK sheet 30 years ago really emotionally hurts anyone. Like, I don’t think anyone is going to lose sleep over it.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
02/02/19 10:56 pm

Obviously the man has dealt in the medical field and political field for the last 35 years with no allegations of racism. He has no doubt saved hundreds if not thousands of lives in 35 years, of people of all colors. Yet, that picture....that will now be his proverbial tombstone.

Nice, very nice.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 11:08 pm

@political you’re right and your explanation on how parties target certain things made me rethink some things and how we address it.

I understand he’s had a successful career where he’s not repeated the same mistake, but I’m curious if there are any actions he could take to show that that’s not a fair representation of his character and him resigning isn’t the best solution. What do you think?

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/02/19 11:16 pm

@RussianThunder Same for you. Is there anything you would suggest he do to show that racism doesn’t continue to affect his decisions as a politician?

These attempted takedowns will only continue so I’m honestly curious if there’s a way to handle them more positively rather than calling for resignation.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
02/03/19 12:11 am

He should have owned it. Said he was a stressed out medical student and showed a poor behavior choice he regrets but his life shows he is not racist. He would hope people don’t judge his entire life from one picture. The subsequently 35 years should be used to judge his life....not a picture.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
02/03/19 12:18 am

Well stated.