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Show Of Hands January 31st, 2019 5:41am

Do you think that human activity is at all responsible for the polar vortex?

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AleWagily12
02/12/19 1:03 pm

OK first of all if somebody out there can’t control the weather. I will give you $1 million. Humans have nothing at all to do with the Polar Eclipse.How in hell would somebody be able to control what weather happens. It is un able to do

hayston
02/03/19 9:43 pm

I’m done debating whether climate change is real and if humans have a part in it, because it’s obvious that it’s true, and Anyone who doesn’t believe it is just genuinely stupid, brainwashed, or kidding themselves. There, so far is a very reasonable hypothesis for the polar vortex shit, and it’s that the polar vortex that sits above the North Pole split due the rising heat in the water from the ice melting in the North Pole in the summer to form a heat “bulge” in the atmosphere which made the jet stream that keeps the vortex bottled above the North Pole to take a northward swing which caused the vortex to split and drift down. Taking it’s cold air that used to bottled up with it down too

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BriDads Stop Getting Offended
02/01/19 12:14 pm

Climate change is an exaggerated issue that has evidence showing that will have slight impacts in hundreds of years from now.

Prioritizing is key

frontier8
02/02/19 7:34 pm

If you exaggerate the conversation about weather you get climate change. Birds and the bees/woman's studies, off color jokes/racism, the dating game/ the #metoo movement, Victor Victoria/Bruce Jenner. Humans used to enjoy points of view, now we argue until one kills the other because no one willadmit a flawed argument.

tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 2:55 pm

Climate change has been on a steady increase for thousands of years. But in the 50's there was a very dramatic increase in the rate.
While that might only be a few degrees difference, it affects things like how long water is held in the atmosphere (causing drought) or jetstream changes(like the vortex)
Think about how small temp increases can drastically change things, 33 degrees you have water, 32 degrees you have ice.
Its not a very hard concept.

kenzbt New York
02/01/19 10:02 am

C’mon, really?

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Brrrrrrrrr
02/01/19 8:20 am

I always find it amusing how atheists, who like to claim they’re very smart, so often vote exactly like the blacks....

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Brrrrrrrrr
02/01/19 8:21 am

in that Medicare for all poll also.

bkro37 existential crisis
02/02/19 9:17 am

What the actual fuck

bkro37 existential crisis
02/02/19 9:18 am

See, I try to have faith in humanity and then I see cunt-shit like this

IrishAlzheimers
02/02/19 7:57 pm

Brrrrrrrrain dead

tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 2:57 pm

Racist fuck. I bet you are a fucking hillbilly that didnt even graduate high school trying to comment on other peoples intelligence.

xxxceo Justice for All
01/31/19 11:50 pm

It doesn’t matter to me if it is. I’m not about to make any changes and I’m confident the earth will be around for another 40 years. That’s all I need.

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tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 2:59 pm

I take it you dont have children

tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 3:37 pm

What about a young neice or nephew

xxxceo Justice for All
02/11/19 4:05 pm

My youngest relative is a cousin in her 20s

tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 4:47 pm

Well maybe its a sign that your lineage is destined to end. :)

xxxceo Justice for All
02/11/19 4:58 pm

If the world is ending, so what?

tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 5:01 pm

Why not go skydiving without a parachute then

xxxceo Justice for All
02/11/19 5:06 pm

I’m not looking to rush the process for my own life. I actually enjoy life.

tyvee32 Ohio
02/11/19 5:07 pm

Im just fucking with you

xxxceo Justice for All
02/11/19 5:09 pm

I figured.
Don’t forget to recycle.

Deek
01/31/19 7:48 pm

For you Republicans: it’s the climate change, stupid. Humans are contributing to it.

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Wizzobutter
01/31/19 9:27 pm

Also, the term “polar vortex” has been around since the 1950’s. It is not a term created by global warming believers.

keyboardwarrior Illinois
01/31/19 10:17 pm

Learn the difference between weather and climate.

HoosierFan
01/31/19 4:56 pm

For the polar vortex, no. For the polar vortex being over the Midwest rather than the arctic, yes.

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bkro37 existential crisis
02/02/19 9:19 am

See, this is correct. The question was worded badly, so I had to answer in the negative to make it technically true. But this is the actual answer.

reader5673
01/31/19 4:42 pm

In Ohio it is a BI-polar vortex as we were negative double digits this morning and will be about positive 50 on Saturday.

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Tariq88 Utah
01/31/19 4:22 pm

Well certainly there is some contribution.

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kenzbt New York
02/01/19 10:03 am

.....and you base that on........?

GeezerGolf if you like your vet...
01/31/19 4:17 pm

Yes, the activity of the Alarmists narrative as megaphoned by the MSM has caused all the problems associated with the dreaded Polar Vortex.

The PV didn’t used to have a scary name. 65 years ago the weather man talked about Arctic air masses that occasionally pushed southward during the winter and made winter colder& snowier.

This occurred when CO2 was 350ppm, back before GLOBAL COOLING of the 1970s , which was the first time the Polar Vortex was unleashed on mankind because of our behaviors that caused the GLOBAL COOLING, the Alarmist’s told us.

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Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 3:53 pm

No, it's just an artic air mass that created a long trough that affected CONUS. Unusual yes, but it's a natural phenomenon in nature

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swaggydaddyboyz Michigan
01/31/19 3:42 pm

I, like everyone else with a brain, believe in climate change. However, how much human activity was a direct result of the polar vortex is where my question is. Unfortunately, this question will not be the matter of the debate it’ll be idiots still denying that climate change is even real 🤷‍♂️

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HungLikeTrump curve2theright
02/01/19 6:37 am

I believe in climate change...just not in the theory that man affects it, or that we can do anything to change weather patterns. It is and will continue to be a money grab. Governments see a revenue stream in pushing this crap. EX: Wind farms are not a solution but there is lot of money in it.

swaggydaddyboyz Michigan
02/01/19 10:51 am

Uh my man wind farms are way more efficient and cleaner than coal for example. Wind farms release nowhere near the amount of greenhouse gases coal does. The only reason the US still supports it is because of the blue collar workers still holding on to a dying industry in areas such as WV. Many jobs could be created with wind farms, but politicians would rather spread fear of “losing” jobs than actually solve problems we are creating. Lastly, if you honestly believe pumping tons and tons of C02, methane, and a wide variety of other greenhouse gasses doesn’t mess up our weather or ecosystem you’re either delusional, or you’re refusing to accept that you were wrong and will do everything in your power to not admit that fact.

HungLikeTrump curve2theright
02/01/19 1:52 pm

Wind power is weak. Now put turbines in the ocean that turn a creat power from ocean currents....i can get behind that but wind farms are an eye sore...create havic for migratory birds...and will never pay for themselves.

Fact Fact
01/31/19 2:36 pm

Its being stolen by the russians.

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Iamreal222 Arizona
02/01/19 6:13 am

Trump and the Russians created it,. They are trying to recreate Red Dawn with a Russian ending. Oh the collusion lol

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
01/31/19 1:09 pm

The answer is No, it's a cold front people. Come to Western, NY - we've had it for a millenia

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Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 3:54 pm

It's not a cold front.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
01/31/19 4:01 pm

Yes it is. It is a cold front of air that normally rotates around the northern article circle that spills down from Northern Canada into the United States. Very Common in some areas.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 4:08 pm

A cold front is on the western side of low pressure and is used mainly when referring to frontal systems.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
01/31/19 4:15 pm

Cold front can from any direction. The "polar vortex" is just a mass of cooler air that exists year round, I, uh, feel like a Princess Brides quote is very appropriate here.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 4:17 pm

It's just called the Polar Vortex. It's a different concept than cold fronts. Like I said, cold fronts are used when referring to frontal systems.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 4:27 pm

That photo should refer to your original comment. Literally look at any forecast discussion that includes what a cold front is. It's in reference to when a front passes through an area.

A low pressure system may develop into a front. When it develops into a front, one side of it is called the warm front. This is on the east side and brings most of the precipitation. When the warm front passes then there's the cold front which is always behind the warm front on the west side of a low. Associated weather is little to no precipitation and colder temps. That's what a cold front is. That's a different concept than the polar Vortex.

When something is cold that doesn't mean a cold front passed. For example, temps in an area will be colder when on the eastern side of High Pressure but no one draws fronts on High Pressure.

DTinCA bullies get ignored
02/01/19 9:13 pm

Luftwafe,,this is exactly what our weatherman was saying tonight on the news.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
02/02/19 7:39 am

I know. I have a degree in Atmospheric sciences.

DTinCA bullies get ignored
02/02/19 4:03 pm

Question: in the Southern Hemisphere is it opposite?

IEatzCookies Look at my pfp
01/31/19 12:29 pm

are we heating up the planet or freezing it, make up your minds

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chance Troll
01/31/19 12:50 pm

They can’t, because 1. They don’t have minds, and 2. They’ll just change the name to fit their narrative

IEatzCookies Look at my pfp
01/31/19 1:13 pm

I'm all for saving the planet but the Democrats have legit turned it into a party issue. They care more about propelling their party to the presidency rather than actually protecting anything.

Pickyoteeth
01/31/19 3:00 pm

What's the alternative? We've seen so many environmental rollbacks on regulations under Trump... Damage that can't be undone. Smh

IEatzCookies Look at my pfp
01/31/19 3:15 pm

he ain't Republican tbh, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing

Dufur30 Oregonian
01/31/19 3:37 pm

I live in Oregon and we get less and less snow every year. It hasn’t been freezing yet here and we’ve had no snow, which is unusual.

The Pacific Ocean is warmer. Thus the west coast is warmer. The further north the warmth (high pressure) goes on the west coast, the more it forces cold air down from the arctic down on the east coast, since the atmosphere in the northern hemisphere moves left to right.

It’s climate change, not global warming. The west will get dryer summers and warmer winter, while the east coast will wetter with colder winters.

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
01/31/19 7:15 pm

We are heating up the planet (in the sense of trapping extra energy in the planetary systems). This will cause unusually cold weather in many instances. The polar vortex is not a planetary cooling.

tdaddy diversity
01/31/19 12:17 pm

Why certainly, just like we’re responsible for the global warming that ended the last Ice Age. Whom else would the liberal Neanderthals have blamed for the melting of all that ice!!

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lj74
01/31/19 12:14 pm

Polar vortex’s have been around for thousands of years.

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JMG Raleigh, NC
01/31/19 11:40 am

Seems logical to me 8,000,000,000 people influence the Earth’s environment, including it’s weather to some degree. As the question is worded, any influence would be a “yes”.

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Diknak Ohio
01/31/19 9:56 am

For it being so far south, yes. The polar ice caps melting causes the vortex to break apart.

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CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
01/31/19 9:18 am

Welcome to 2019

*wind blows*

‘Oh my god, would that have happened if we didn’t drive SUVs?’

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Liberty Lets Use Logic
01/31/19 11:03 am

Exactly. Just read the question objectively without the pretext of Global Warming and it just sounds nutty.

coggy iowa
01/31/19 9:06 am

We're breaking records here in Iowa that were set back in 1885. This is nothing new.

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FallingStar Oregon
01/31/19 9:06 am

Nature has cycles. This is part of the cycle.

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Dufur30 Oregonian
01/31/19 3:43 pm

The a very simplistic view and probably brings you comfort.

There are cycles, but nothing is black and white. Humans have an impact on the cycles, and can add to them. If the population was 100 billion people, would you still say they have no impact cause “cycles”

FallingStar Oregon
01/31/19 3:50 pm

I believe that God is in control of nature and while we can impact the world around us, I don’t believe it’s anything close to the magnitude the MSM would want us to think.
Nature is going to do what nature does. God made the earth and the sun and the stars and the other planets and everything else to take care of themselves to a large degree and to last as long as He wants them to.

Dufur30 Oregonian
01/31/19 5:34 pm

Ill play along. In the beginning, God created atoms and the physics that govern them. What more do you want from him? He is not a magician constantly keeping things in control with acts outside the laws of physics. Do you not believe in free will? We have the power to destroy the earth, just as much as we have the power to protect it. Your view is very depressing, almost like you’ve given up. You’ve gone belly up. So Just admit you have no free will, and god will do with your life as he chooses.

FallingStar Oregon
01/31/19 5:52 pm

Ok, so here’s how I see it. I have a free will. I can take my life and do whatever I want with it. That’s my choice. But God didn’t give humans the right or power or anything to decide how long the world will last. Can we mess up the oceans? Yes. Can we cut down huge amount of forests? Yes. Can we pollute the air? Yes. Can we destroy the earth? No.
I do agree that we can make this a better place to live or a worse place to live by our actions. We could, for example, make the whole world look like LA or London or some of these other big cities. Or we could act responsibly and use our resources in a logical, mature way. But I do not think that we can cause this planet to just spontaneously combust or freeze into an ice cube. That is not in our abilities as puny little humans. And God does not have work outside the laws of physics to keep this universe functioning the way He made it to.


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Dufur30 Oregonian
01/31/19 6:08 pm

I don’t think anyone thinks we can make the world spontaneously combust, so I applaud you for staying away from areas of contention. But human do have the power to pollute the earth and raise the temperature by a few degrees Celsius? Agree? I think when people talk about destroying the earth, they aren’t saying literally, rather saying making it less inhabitable for life. That is what separates earth from any of the other rocks in space. They are talking about killing forest, causing animals to die, and polluting the world. We have a choice of turning this world into a heaven or hell; green and full of life, vs dead and polluted. It’s crazy that Christians side with hell, or at least complicit with changes in that direction. And in my opinion MSM doesn’t give it justice. If you read the science, see the pictures and listen to the science community, MSM’s tiny Brains are able to comprehend. So MSM shouldn’t be your go to source.

HungLikeTrump curve2theright
02/01/19 10:09 am

If and only if humans have any impact...it is so small that it does not affect it in ways alarmists like Al Gore make it out to be. Volcanic activity, solar flares, etc., is what affects the earth on a larger scale.

Dufur30 Oregonian
02/01/19 4:59 pm

I think you don’t understand how big 7 billion is. We have tens of thousands of coal plants, millions and millions of cars, tens of billions of live stock. We release millions of pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere per second. Yeah, “little impact”, but one or two Volcanoes; watch out!

Dufur30 Oregonian
02/01/19 5:02 pm

“According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide.”

www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/

Dufur30 Oregonian
02/01/19 5:10 pm

Also, even if they released the same (which they do not); volcanoes would be natural, ie the baseline, And any activity from humans would be the addition. And even if they released the same (not even close); that would be “doubling” the “norm”. But in reality, when compared to volcanoes, humans are 100x the normal; far out pacing the amount the oceans and plants can handle.

savalordtester
01/31/19 8:53 am

There was an ice age... Remember that... Very little human activity and it still happened...

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Diknak Ohio
01/31/19 9:55 am

No one claims that change doesn't happen without humans, only that we are expediting it.

Xaveth
01/31/19 1:59 pm

Actually quite a lot of people deny the ice age/heating cycle of the earth. They also don't realize we are actually still in an ice age.

centexken Republic of Texas
01/31/19 2:16 pm

If we are in an ice age how warm will the summers be when it ends?

Jazzy5 USA
01/31/19 8:30 am

Mother Nature does what she wants, when she wants!

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GlockMan1 Alabama
01/31/19 8:31 am

Yep👍

kman279 Philadelphia
01/31/19 8:16 am

I only said no because the question asked if man was responsible for it. The polar vortex is a natural thing but you could say that man had made it worse.

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Cheif
01/31/19 8:08 am

Not completely, but we are responsible for a large portion of it.

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chance Troll
01/31/19 12:51 pm

No, no we aren’t. You’ve been listening to too many libnazi morons like Michael Moore and Algore

Cheif
01/31/19 3:59 pm

I don’t listen to them. I’m intelligent enough to remember when there used to be four seasons where I live instead of six months of burning hell and six months that go between each season hourly. I remember when we didn’t have a year long wet season with mushrooms overtaking our grass. I know why all of this happening because I received an education on how weather works and knew the dangers of the pilar ice melting since I was a small child in AGP. Also, EVERYTHING is political to me, I actually worry about how what we have done to the earth in the past century will affect not me, not my kids, but their kids, and their grandkids.

georgemason
01/31/19 7:44 am

The only question is how much is caused by man and how much is caused by natural causes.

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georgemason
01/31/19 7:43 am

Yes, man has impacted our climate by pumping too much carbon into our atmosphere and the production of methane. There is significant scientific evidence to support it. The only question is how much has been caused by man and how mush is the

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GlockMan1 Alabama
01/31/19 8:33 am

Ever heard of the “Ice Ages”? This happened before man was around.

SauceBoss nj
01/31/19 9:49 am

What point are you trying to make lmao?

GlockMan1 Alabama
02/01/19 8:51 am

The point is....the climate changes...WITH OR WITHOUT MAN.

georgemason
02/02/19 7:58 am

In this case, negatively impacted by mans continual activities that add carbon and methane into the environment.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
01/31/19 7:40 am

Hahaha, what? Is this meant to be satire? No, I don’t think that people changed the weather, haha.

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zengunner Texas
01/31/19 10:24 am

Ha ha, I don’t understand or want to understand the science behind climate change

Liberty Lets Use Logic
01/31/19 11:01 am

Just make something up and it’ll be as good as any of the doomsday prophets’ sales pitches.

HungLikeTrump curve2theright
01/31/19 7:27 am

Follow the money. Al Gore has gotten rich spreading falsehoods. Remember back in the 70's..the big scare was the hole in the ozone and how aerosol (hairspray, asthma inhalers, etc.) were going to make it bigger. Well...the hole has not gotten any bigger since then. Next it was the rainforests...and now we have global (fill in the blank to meet your narrative). It is arrogant to think somehow man has an effect on the weather.

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swervin Maryland
01/31/19 9:22 am

The ozone hole is repairing itself because the world heavily regulated CFCs use and they are banned now.

zengunner Texas
01/31/19 10:25 am

It’s arrogant to think we don’t have an affect on climate

HungLikeTrump curve2theright
02/01/19 6:31 am

Wrong. The hole is the same size now as it was back in the 70's.

swervin Maryland
02/01/19 9:37 am

www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/earths-ozone-layer-is-healing-un-report-says
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1893703002
I’ll take the word of scientists instead of someone who thinks “hungliketrump” is a clever username.

HungLikeTrump curve2theright
02/01/19 10:13 am

The hole in the ozone fluctuates. It was larger in 2018 than the previous 2 years
..most likely due to the volcano that erupted in Hawaii. It will never fully heal and that is not your, mine, or China's fault.

nacho1
01/31/19 6:48 am

Yes humans changed it’s name from a winter cold snap to polar vortex just like they decided a summer hot spell is global warming.

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phalnx Ohio
01/31/19 6:47 am

If by that they mean the current Polar Vortex that's wildly South of where it normally is, then yes. The weather gurus say it's being pushed here by warm air in the North Pole. I have no reason to doubt them.

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Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 3:57 pm

That's not at all the consensus of the Meteorological community. Most of them I talked to explained it as a column of artic air that just extended into Conus.

moldypipes99 Proud American
01/31/19 6:33 am

It’s a little thing called winter people. Helloooooo, It is January!!

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alkie New York
01/31/19 6:33 am

Humans are not responsible for the weather. Democrats keep playing humans for it being too cold or too hot out.

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Constitutionist Southern Illinois
01/31/19 6:31 am

Yes, because global warming.

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drself Gated Community
01/31/19 7:25 am

Get with the 21st century. It is now Climate Change. The Global Warming thing didn’t work out. Just like back in the 70-80’s when we were destroying the Ozone and it fixed itself.

This is all a scam to separate us from our money.

Diknak Ohio
01/31/19 9:57 am

The ozone didn't fix itself...we passed laws that fixed it.

taumpy Massachusetts
01/31/19 11:14 am

The ozone fixed itself? Lol and I bet you think the Cuyahoga stopped catching on fire “just cause” or that you can swim in Boston harbor nowadays out of sheer willpower.

drself Gated Community
01/31/19 1:34 pm

There is so much junk science out there, but as I searched for your answer, (I guess you’re too lazy), I found stuff that really made me laugh.
Scientist say that the ozone repairing itself is bad news. It will keep the heat in and cause Global Warming.
What in the world did we do 300 years ago without all these government grants to give us Global Warmer or Climate Change, whatever it’s called this week.

My question is, what is the Earth normal average temperature? We have been only recording it for a couple hundred years. Since these political scientists believe the Earth is 100’s of millions years old, 200 years is nothing.

drself Gated Community
01/31/19 1:41 pm

OH I forgot.
Did we get rid of all the cars when global warming was occurring between 400-1000AD? I guess we didn’t learn from political scientists of the time and brought back the car.

rons on top of the world MA
01/31/19 6:29 am

Sure, the Canadian electric wind turbines blow all the cold air south.

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
01/31/19 6:28 am

The valley forge winters was one of the worst on record. It’s cyclical though I feel man plays a contributing factor.

HBNY this space for rent
01/31/19 6:19 am

While humans are definitely changing the climate and weather patterns, but it’d be difficult to pin humans as the blame for one very specific weather event.

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YungGrim Florida
01/31/19 5:51 am

How can it not be? It’d be naive to think otherwise.

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GlockMan1 Alabama
01/31/19 8:34 am

You must have seen the movie “The Day After Tomorrow “

taumpy Massachusetts
01/31/19 4:07 am

For it existing at all? No, of course not.

However, polar ice melting due to climate change is the reason it has been coming farther south in recent years. And while we may be in a warming period anyway, carbon emissions are unquestionably exacerbating that due to greenhouse effect.

So yes and no.

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Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
01/31/19 3:58 pm

That's not the reason it's coming South. That is not how weather works.

SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
02/01/19 1:43 pm

Cold, dry air has a higher density and thus descends with a counter-clockwise rotation from the Coriolis Effect (Northern Hemisphere). Hot, humid air is low density and conversely rises with a clockwise rotation. As air descends, it becomes more dense and heats up (becoming a less-humid high pressure area). Surface winds flow from high pressure to low pressure areas, increasing updrafts. When it is hot, humid air pushed aloft, that air cools and becomes saturated as the air pressure decreases, resulting in precipitation. ...that’s how weather works.

SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
02/01/19 1:58 pm

...normally there would be cold, high pressure areas at the poles that would keep the polar vortex a stable counter-clockwise rotation above the Arctic Circle. (Antarctica keeps the South Polar Vortex stable). Unusual heating of the Arctic Ocean will create a low pressure area with a clockwise rotation to destabilize the polar vortex like an eddy in a river, sending it on a southwest excursion until the natural polar high pressure circulation is restored. Got it?

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
02/01/19 4:00 pm

Your statement is filled with some correct information I guess. Since you seem to know Meteorological terms and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt you didn't copy that from a website then I'll happily discuss this.

First off, cold air or warm air isn't associated with any one circulation. High Pressure is associated with Clock Wise (Anti Cyclonic) rotation and Low pressure is associated with Counter Clock wise (Cyclonic) rotation. The temperature of the air itself isn't inherently assigned to one rotation. One the Eatern side of a High you'll have colder temperatures and on the Western side of a low you'll have colder temperatures.

The Polar Vortex is literally just a hyped up name for the Aritc Jet. Most weather Forecasters hate it when its called that. The Artic Jet just dipped equatorward (down) which isn't unusual for it to reach CONUS. Perhaps climate change had some impact but it's not a doomsday occurrence.

SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
02/01/19 9:51 pm

Lol, yeah I got my rotations backwards. ...I need to remember to use the right hand rule. So, why don’t you think that there’s a connection between higher Arctic SSTs and southern excursions of the polar jet stream?

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
02/02/19 8:47 am

Weather is not a black and white issue a lot the time. A lot of bizarre things happen to where even expert meteorologists of 30+ years can't even fully explain it. We don't even have a concrete theory on how hail is formed. There could be many theories on why the Artic Jet moved equatorward into CONUS and to just put a blanket statement that it was climate change is completely amateur.

I work with DOD, NOAA, and NWS Weather Forecasters and climatologists. Most of them I've talked with don't seem at all worried about it and think the Weather Channel over hyped this for media ratings. Also its beyond retarded they renamed the Artic Jet the Polar Vortex

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
02/02/19 8:52 am

The Artic Jet also extended into Conus a couple months ago and no one was going crazy. I remember seeing the 528 thickness line reach into Northern Minnesota.

gonzoboy Arizona
01/31/19 3:35 am

Oh, the hubris!

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Diknak Ohio
01/31/19 9:59 am

I agree. It must take a lot of hubris to think you know more about climate than climate scientists that devote their entire lives to studying the subject.

gonzoboy Arizona
01/31/19 5:14 pm

Do you assert that someone who spends their entire life studying a subject, are infallible? Are fully correct, by the default virtue of devotion to their studies? Can never arrive at conclusions that fit tightly into the narrative of their biases? Others have devoted the same amount of time in study of the same subject, but drawn different conclusions. Is it hubris to consider these findings with soundness and reason, or would it be hubris to believe there can be only one answer, one outcome, one set of data points that fuel a single belief?

Krystina Live and Let Live
02/01/19 3:22 am

@gonzo ❤️

Krystina Live and Let Live
02/01/19 3:23 am

That was for your eloquence, btw. Just makes me smile.

gonzoboy Arizona
02/01/19 3:33 am

Well, I ♥️ you right back, and for various happy reasons!...🤗

PrinceOberyn Io Himeros
01/31/19 1:33 am

The phenomenon itself is natural but it's shift so far south can be affected by climate change. Thick atmosphere warms earth, ice melts, colder air enters atmosphere and shifts South. Polar vortex.

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rons on top of the world MA
01/31/19 6:31 am

Happened before will happen again.

Wino I need a drink
01/31/19 8:12 am

It has happened long ago, but it’s happening more frequently now than it has before. My son is nine and has lived through two. I’m in my forties and these two are the first I’ve experienced dangerous cold (higher than -20 or -40 windchill).

smadison Wisconsin
01/31/19 1:30 am

No, it’s not. Here is some info on it from NOAA: www.noaa.gov/infographic/science-behind-polar-vortex

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smadison Wisconsin
01/31/19 1:36 am

That being said - climate change can impact its variability

Spiritof76 USA 1776
01/31/19 1:22 am

Lol, no. Well, Jayden. He's solely responsible for bringing the vortex south. Bastard.

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Timber
01/31/19 1:01 am

Both of these wind features exist because of the large temperature difference between the cold Arctic and warmer areas farther south, known as the mid-latitudes. Uneven heating creates pressure differences, and air flows from high-pressure to low-pressure areas, creating winds. The spinning Earth then turns winds to the right in the northern hemisphere, creating these belts of westerlies.

Why cold air plunges south

Greenhouse gas emissions from human activities have warmed the globe by about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree C) over the past 50 years. However, the Arctic has warmed more than twice as much. Amplified Arctic warming is due mainly to dramatic melting of ice and snow in recent decades, which exposes darker ocean and land surfaces that absorb a lot more of the sun’s heat.

Because of rapid Arctic warming, the north/south temperature difference has diminished. This reduces pressure differences between the Arctic and mid-latitudes, weakening jet stream winds. And just as slo

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Timber
01/31/19 1:06 am

earthsky.org/earth/how-polar-vortex-connected-to-global-warming

It almost sounds like this polar climate was shifted down to north central USA. Ugh, mother nature does not like conservatives for some reason. Jk, we're all gonna suffer.

tdaddy diversity
01/31/19 12:32 pm

Timber, that’s just what liberal Neanderthals said while global warming ended the last Ice Age.

Timber
01/31/19 12:55 am

Idk, I hate that I had to choose yes or no to look at the answers. I agree with whatever the scientists say. They have much more credibility than all of the fierce opinions in this thread.

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leader77 California
01/31/19 12:41 am

I love to imagine what Democrats would’ve been saying if they were around and governing at the end of the Ice Age.

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Malekithe R lyeh
01/31/19 4:27 am

Ask Pelosi

nacho1
01/31/19 6:50 am

They said the Arctic would be ice free in 19,000 years if they did not act.