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Squidboy January 30th, 2019 9:32pm

Would you consider someone ‘self-made’ if at some point in their life they received government benefits? IE: welfare, SNAP, housing, grants, etc.

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HoosierFan
02/01/19 8:18 am

The phrase “rags to riches” comes to mind.

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TopsQueen Oregon Coast
01/31/19 1:57 pm

Yes. I think someone who worked to get out of the situation is a prizewinning

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mnct Ohio, USA
01/30/19 9:54 pm

I guess, so long as their highs were achieved by themselves. I find the whole concept of being 'self made' to be a slightly useless one anyway.

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Constitutionist Southern Illinois
01/30/19 8:20 pm

They are made by the taxpayers

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SHOWofFIST Flint, MI
01/30/19 6:45 pm

All that means is they really did start at rock bottom unlike all those others with tons of advantages they are blind to.

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
01/30/19 6:42 pm

If they went from welfare to work and then wealth, yes. That takes gettin off your duff!

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CoffeeNow CCP virus
01/30/19 4:34 pm

Depends how much and how long

Is someone not self made if their mom wipes their ass when they were a year old? Obviously it’s contextual

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LibArtie SW Connecticut
01/30/19 4:26 pm

youtu.be/0AMoBU7lFUA
“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.”

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DJ13
01/30/19 4:18 pm

No one is totally self made...

Kay41 the Midwest
01/30/19 4:01 pm

Yes, I would.

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jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
01/30/19 3:25 pm

If consider someone who is well-off now, yet used to receive government benefits, infinitely more self-made than those who were bankrolled by their parents.

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Quinnipiac Here
01/30/19 3:01 pm

As a not-so-great man once said “you didn’t build that.” So I guess no one is self-made and we should all succumb to socialism.

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DJ13
01/30/19 6:09 pm

No one is self made....

Quinnipiac Here
01/30/19 7:22 pm

mmkay well then why even try?

Quinnipiac Here
01/30/19 8:22 pm

To make myself successful.

DJ13
01/30/19 9:08 pm

Well, part of being successful is having the knowledge and humility to admit that you didn't do it by yourself....

Jazzy5 USA
01/30/19 2:58 pm

It is a hand up not a hand out.

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jmw7477 Indiana
01/30/19 2:41 pm

It depends on how long and why. My aunt was on welfare just long enough to go to nursing school. She was a divorced single mom of three young boys. My husband’s mom was on welfare when he was a kid. She’d send him to the store with food stamps. He’d throw them away or give them back to her and use the money he’d earned at after school jobs.

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rons on top of the world MA
01/30/19 2:41 pm

Sometimes you need help but you have to always try to improve and feel remorse that you can’t stand on your own two feet.
If you feel on bad times with illness then a safety net is needed.
Too many scam the system. Howard didn’t. I hope he runs as an independent!

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Korosensei Maine
01/30/19 3:05 pm

The data says that the number of people who Sam the system isn’t all that high tbh.

rons on top of the world MA
01/30/19 3:57 pm

Yep, only a few million.

Korosensei Maine
01/30/19 4:11 pm

I mean that’s a deliberately high estimate and you know it

rons on top of the world MA
01/30/19 4:15 pm

I know. Do you have a better number? How does anyone know about scammers? I saw a lot of single mothers claiming aid and yet they had their man lurking in that background. Common scam. Ever notice the high rate of births to single mothers these days?

Korosensei Maine
01/30/19 4:24 pm

See that’s what these claims always amount to “I saw a person on welfare who I don’t think should have been on welfare” but no actual numbers.

Korosensei Maine
01/30/19 2:35 pm

No one is self made.

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Korosensei Maine
01/30/19 3:04 pm

To truly be self made one can’t have relied on the freely given help of others for anything and that’s simply not possible in society.

DJ13
01/30/19 6:11 pm

Exactly....