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kscott516 January 30th, 2019 8:08pm

Christians: You can no longer call yourself a Christian if you support the Democrat Party.

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lcamino Florida
01/31/19 7:04 am

I would have disagreed a month ago. But, what is going on in NY and VA by Democrats can only be called evil. It is the opposite of Christianity to kill viable human beings.

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kscott516 Show Time
01/31/19 7:50 am

They removed God from their party platform about 7 years ago and are now pushing to remove “so help me God” from the oath Congress takes upon serving. They are in open, active denial against God now. This is no longer about opinions. It has become a war of aggression on Christians.

ArrowFodder ohio
01/30/19 10:37 pm

If you really know what the Bible says about the major social issues such as the sanctity of life in the womb, the exclusivity of marriage between a man and a woman and that as a Christian you are no longer a citizen of the world but a citizen of God’s kingdom and are committed to living according to God’s revealed will as communicated through the Bible , then the answer to this question follows rather obviously. Since the Democratic Party now very explicitly disagrees with and enthusiastically promotes that which the Bible so clearly condemns (see above) it is literally impossible to be an authentic Christian and honestly support the Democratic Party platform. So while you may be formally associated with the Democratic Party and be a genuine Christian you would be a Democrat in name only. But you can’t be an authentic Christian and an authentic Democrat. As Jesus said. You can’t serve two masters.

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ArrowFodder ohio
01/30/19 10:37 pm

As Jesus said . You can’t serve two masters .

adman4285
01/30/19 9:08 pm

The direction of the parties has changed so much over the last few decades that they no longer resemble the parties that I remember.

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John1 Florida
01/30/19 5:44 pm

I am tempted to say you can’t even call yourself a decent person if you support the Democrat party, but I won’t. I have too many friends and family members that subscribe to that line of logic (or lack there of). Aborting babies five minutes or one second before birth is true infanticide. Abortion itself is already infanticide. I just don’t understand how anyone on that side can justify it. This legislation recently passed in NY will only imprison women. The illusion of “free choice” is the greatest lie ever conceived. God help this country...we certainly don’t deserve His mercy.

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localjudicial
01/30/19 5:38 pm

You can be Christian and support both parties Republicans or Democrats. Your party doesn't determine your faith. And you can support most of what one party stands for and some of the other party. You don't have to agree with everything your party supports

kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 6:15 pm

Not anymore. See arguments below.

localjudicial
01/30/19 6:33 pm

I did, what we have is a difference in opinion and that is okay

Zfilakas Eleftheria i Thanatos
01/30/19 4:28 pm

Have fun explaining to Christ on Judgement day that Donald Trump represents Christians and Christ. Or any republican for that matter. I’m sure Christ will have a laugh.

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political Georgia
01/30/19 4:18 pm

Only if you are very very ignorant...

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Pickyoteeth
01/30/19 4:15 pm

Interesting to see these hard ideological conservatives defend their love for the pussy grabber and porn star adulterer, but say you can't be a Christian if you are a Democrat.. 😂 You don't know what being a Christian is all about if you think being a republican is going to get you into heaven.

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kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 4:17 pm

No one said being a Republican meant you’re a Christian and would be saved. Let’s stick to logical arguments, shall we?

political Georgia
01/30/19 4:19 pm

King David was an adulterer and murderer, and yet he was a faithful servant. Christians sin, but we hate the sin that we do and forgive when others fall short of honoring God.

Pickyoteeth
01/30/19 4:22 pm

A few other Christianly qualities Trump has: making fun of disabled people, promoting violence at his rallies, greed, using his charity to pay for a large painting of himself, suing the contractors that worked for him instead of paying them... Even with all of this. You can still be a Christian if you support Trump or democrats. No party or person is perfect.

Pickyoteeth
01/30/19 4:24 pm

Coming up with disparaging nicknames for your enemies (even in his own party) is really Christian-like too. This man lives a lifestyle of sin. We all do.

Pickyoteeth
01/30/19 4:26 pm

All I'm trying to say is don't act like you're better in God's eyes than a Democrat. Both parties are flawed. The people in them are flawed and we all sin every day.

kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 6:12 pm

I never claimed Trump was a Christian. Openly mocking and denouncing God is not Christian-like either. Yes, we all sin but you should never find a Christian saying he doesn’t want God in his life or openly supporting things against His laws.

orgblu10 Shamerica
01/30/19 2:59 pm

You can be a Christian and a Democrat, since your salvation doesn't ride on what party you support. But you'd have to be awfully asleep at the wheel. Seemingly a lot of Christians just don't think these things through, and keep themselves in the dark. Everyone suffers because of their irresponsibility.

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kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 4:18 pm

Party doesn’t equate to religion, but supporting the Larry that supports gay marriage, abortion, and the removal of God from their life is antithetical to being a Christian. The Democrat Party has left the Christian out of their Party.

orgblu10 Shamerica
01/30/19 5:46 pm

Sadly, that is true. That's why I implied that a Christian who supports them would have to be either totally oblivious or very ignorant. Either way, it's a bad place to be.

BriDads Stop Getting Offended
01/30/19 2:40 pm

Catholic: I guess you could try, but you would have to go to confession because the Bible does despise abortions, gay marriage (however, they have become tolerant to an extent), Planned Parenthood, etc.

However, non of these are horrible, except for abortion. There are only a few certain passages that argues against homosexuality. And Planned Parenthood really has to do with the fact hat most people who use it are having sex before marriage and are using condoms, which are both somewhat great sins within the Catholic Church. However, in this day and age, the average age to lose your virginity is around 16 or 17, and I bet there is a solid amount from Catholic schools.

But overall, as long as you are “treating thy neighbor as thyself” and have the right intentions, you would could probably be a good Christian. The same can be said for conservatives as well with capitalism, even though I support it.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 2:50 pm

Bri ... I disagree. The overarching principle of the left, and therefore Democrats, is a dependence on government rather than self. Democrats believe in forced benevolence, the adulteration of charity. Democrats believe they are justified to cover their neighbors. Democrats also embrace lasciviousness. Are these things consistent with the Gospel?

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
01/30/19 2:28 pm

Being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with political party . It means you accept Jesus as the Christ. I love God with all your soul and might. Love your neighbor as yourself. In this kept kept the law.

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kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 2:45 pm

Christianity is not intrinsically tied to any political party, that is true, however, the Democrat Party has officially removed God form their platform a few years back, now pushing to remove “so help me God” from the oath, pushes abortion even up to birth in some states, supports gay marriage, and pushes for more governmental control over your body through universal healthcare. Their principles are incompatible with Christianity and they openly denounce God.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 2:46 pm

Tops ... actually it’s extremely difficult to be an anarchist and a Christian. It’s likewise extremely difficult to follow Christ and be consistent with the Democrat orthodoxy.

If you disagree, please explain how the ideals of the Democrat party are consistent with the Gospel.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 1:13 pm

I’d postulate that if you’re a modern Democrat that you’ve abandoned Christian principles as those principles are foreign to the Democrat orthodoxy.

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mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 1:53 pm

I mean you could say the same thing about Republicans. Tying religion in with a political party is idiotic and wrong.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 2:00 pm

Mitch ... when did I tie religion to a political party? I understand that you can’t admit the truth of what I said, so you have to try to invert or twist it. There is nothing that requires Republicans to be Christians or Christians to be Republicans.

I simply observed that Christianity is incompatible with the radical leftist orthodoxy now embraced by Democrats.

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 2:00 pm

I mean this poll is saying if you are a democrat you aren't a Christian. Seems like that's tying religion with political parties.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 2:33 pm

Mitch ... what it seems is that you’re desperately trying to shift the topic because you can’t refute the point being made.

Rather than continuing your silly flawed assertion, please explain how the disgusting leftist orthodoxy of Democrats is consistent with Christianity.

kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 2:42 pm

Which Republican platform ideal is incompatible with Christianity?

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 2:46 pm

Ok.. well I said you shouldn't tie political parties and religion together and explained how you were doing it not sure how that is changing the topic, but whatever.

I believe helping those in need is a very important aspect of Christianity, since Jesus told us this. Personally I think that the democrats do this better than the Republicans. I know you disagree, but just letting you know my opinion.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 2:52 pm

Mitch ... is the forced benevolence advocates by leftist Democrats the same as the charity described by Christ?

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 2:54 pm

How is my tax money going to help others forced?

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 2:55 pm

Pretty should Jesus would prefer tax money going to stuff that he advocated rather than building a wall and military spending. But hey that's just my opinion.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 3:04 pm

Mitch ... answer the question, if you dare!

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 3:05 pm

Did you not read my comment?

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 3:21 pm

Mitch ... YES, I read both of your silly comments. Neither addressed the question asked. Here’s a mulligan, try again.

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 3:24 pm

I gave you my answer. Sorry if you didn't like it.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 3:25 pm

Mitch ... you can do and say what you want. You simply didn’t address the question ... whether your deluded or not!

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 3:28 pm

Sorry dude, that's the answer I've got to your question. You can accept it or get angry about it I guess. It's up to you.

Think Lovin Life
01/30/19 3:30 pm

Mitch ... you and I both know your “sorry” is disingenuous. I’m not angry about your slipperiness. What you’re seeing is pity for you.

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 3:33 pm

I mean if we are being really I don't actually feel sorry that you don't like your answer. I'm just politely letting you know that's answer and I don't really have anything to add about that question. You can ask me something else if you want to be aggressive towards a liberal some more?

kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 3:55 pm

Forced benevolence doesn’t make a Democrat charitable. 7/10ths goes the administration of the programs. Jesus would expect 100% to benefit them and be done as a personal sacrifice. Those are republican ideals.

mitchman399 Oregon
01/30/19 4:01 pm

I would argue that isn't republican ideals, but I get your point. This is why I don't think you should tie religion in with political parties. To me the democrats fit the ideals I believe are right to you the republicans fit your ideals. Doesn't make either of us less of a Christian.

kscott516 Show Time
01/30/19 6:15 pm

I’m not tying politics to religion. A person used to be able to be a Christian and support either Party, HOWEVER, the Democrat Party removed God from their platform in 2012, I believe, and are now wanting to remove “so help me God” from the oath, as well as supporting gay marriage and abortion up to birth. Their ideals are no longer amenable to Christianity. You must choose one or the other now. That doesn’t mean you are a Republican. There are other political options.