Show of Hands

Nonsense.....nobody has freedom from religion.

Yes we do. We can choose to not be involved with any religion and to believe what we want.

Originally it was stated as freedom of Christian religion. Remember, they were seeking freedom of faith from other Christians.

Drives you nuts, huh? Careful, they will start to call you names.

Can a muslim be a patriot? Reconciling the western ideals of America along with islamic submission?

Do you know many Muslims?

Well, that’s bad news for me, blue!

Why is that bad news

I am not a Christian, so according to those who voted yes (including you, presumably), I’m not “truly American.”

I was thinking of it more as in ideal stereotypical prototype American. Doesnt mean it's a requirement to be American. That's 2 very different arguments.
And I thought you were Christian also.

“I was thinking of it more as in ideal stereotypical prototype American.”

Honestly, I’m not even sure what that means.

“And I thought you were Christian also.”

No, I’m Jewish.

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Ahh. I thought so, I think of Jewish and Christian in the same category. Same God. It's all good.

Except GMAlice is going to hell. But...no biggie.

Only God gets to make that decision

Well, Jesus himself said "The only way to the Father is through me"

And by the way, all 3 abrahamic religions worship the same base god. Islam, Christianity and Judaism. The god of Abraham. A schitzophrenic man who mutilated his genitals and attempted to murder his own kid.

John 14:16

We are not meant to Judge who goes to heaven and hell. That is only for God to judge. Not our place.

Tell that to Jesus.

1 in the same

:) tell that to GMAlice. ;)

I was telling you since you seemed confused

Well, I'm a non-theist, so the heaven/hell thing doesn't really matter too much to me. I am just interested in what others believe the world looks like. If the only purpose I serve in life, I'd like to make sure people stick to their own rules, or question the legitimacy of them. Do you "believe" what you think you believe? What you've been taught to believe?

If you dont believe you have no reason to argue within it. Just be polite and ignore it

I'm not arguing a thing.

And I do have reason to argue. Just as much a reason that you do. Especially when it comes to what it means to be a "true American." Or on any religious topic. We all have not only a reason, but a personal obligation. Because it IS important.

But again, right now, I'm not arguing anything.

You were arguing about who would be going to hell. You dont believe in that so you have no reason to argue it. I also have no desire to argue it with you since you don't believe.

I wasn't making an argument, I was quoting scripture.

I was questioning your belief. If you are a believer in Jesus Christ and his teachings, then you should be agreeing with me.

But then again, maybe I'm getting it wrong. What do you think?

I'm sorry Blue. I admit I'm kinda trolling you. I think I went on about it for a little too long. I apologize.

Its like my middle schoolers when they talk back in opposition of what I say to them. I tell them not to argue with an adult, they respond with, I'm not arguing.

Scary, isn’t it?

I've heard that the man with the most toys in the end, wins!

This seems to be more and more of a thing here. Grandma, I hope there was no misunderstanding about my interpretation of Hatikvah. I didn’t mean any disrespect.

“I hope there was no misunderstanding...”

Of course not! It’s all good. 😊

I don’t usually make a point to post a comment to just say “agreed, excellent perspective”... but in your case it’s so rare that it’s worth doing. Hope you and the wife are doing well, Glock.

Guess I can’t be American

Nope.

Bri, same for me.

Pft right , Where are u spoiled idiots gonna go , know where .

A martyrs deaths then . Meh. Your probably baby boomers anyway. You don’t what your doing