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omniku January 29th, 2019 8:18pm

I hear a lot of chatter about a second US civil war. God forbid the US descends into civil war, but if it did who would benefit more?

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kspells TheOtherOtherside
02/02/19 7:41 am

When anyone thinks of this fantasized civil war; where is it taking place? Soccer fields? Maybe the sports arenas for the bigger battles? Is their pay per view for both sides? It would have to be a simulation on our phones and tablets for it to matter to most people.

BoomSwetty Uncaged Human
01/30/19 11:18 am

China has been openly saying that they will take over the U.S. without ever lifting a gun. They are the biggest owners of our debt. Our debt is still increasing annually making it easier and easier. Some day that debt will be too large to service. China will be there because it has been their long game.

omniku dot com
01/30/19 12:34 pm

Most of our debt is held by US citizens and the US government itself. China is the largest FOREIGN holder of our debt, but I believe the foreign share is only about a third of the total.

That’s not to say that isn’t a problem in and of itself, but China does not hold most of US debt.

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kspells TheOtherOtherside
02/02/19 7:45 am

It’s not debt. China buys bonds for profit. They don’t loan $$ to us. And they don’t hold it. If we fail to pay, so what. It’s a risk everyone wishes they could take.. we are the sure thing.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
01/29/19 7:56 pm

Some may say that if the US descends into chaos, it will benefit China most, because Russia isn't an aspiring world power like it once was. This seems sensible, but at the same time, the US descending into chaos could create the conditions under which the Russian leadership would be willing to pursue such goals and re-obtain its superpower status.

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Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
01/29/19 7:52 pm

China.
How many times do I have to tell you. We do not care about the U.S other than the improvement of relations. China wants to dominate the global economy and reclaim japan.

omniku dot com
01/29/19 8:11 pm

Who is “we”? I thought you’re in Ukraine? Is the “we” because you’re ethnically Russian?

Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
01/29/19 8:21 pm

I had to flee to Russia to put it I to terms but yes I mean we as in Russia.

omniku dot com
01/30/19 12:30 pm

I can’t speak for Russian citizens, but Putin’s entire goal is to disrupt the west. A US civil war would be his wet dream.

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Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
01/30/19 12:33 pm

That may seem like his goal but in reality America has always been the aggressors. Get out of Europe and get away from our former borders. We don’t have bases anywhere outside of Russia so why should you.

omniku dot com
01/30/19 5:40 pm

To the winner goes the spoils. USSR collapsed because communism fails (this has been proven repeatedly), not because of US aggression.

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Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
01/30/19 5:42 pm

I’m talking about right now, and yes we all know leftist ideology’s do not work thanks for highlighting that.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
01/29/19 7:43 pm

I feel like China needs us to buy their crap.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
01/29/19 7:45 pm

Both countries would likely try to pull some stuff with their militaries while he US was...
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CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
01/29/19 3:50 pm

Let’s get it started. Who wants to take Fort Sumter with me?

CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
01/29/19 3:51 pm

We should probably do it during tourist hours, easier to penetrate the defenses

MrsCrayonWax Katies Purpose
01/30/19 10:46 am

You have to get the country with more people behind you.

SnotBubble California
01/29/19 3:20 pm

China makes A Lot of goods that they sell back to the US. If we were at war, we would not be buying so much of China’s crap. That would hurt China.

Russia exports a lot of carbon based energy. If we were at war, we would increase the demand of energy. This would benefit Russia.

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omniku dot com
01/29/19 2:00 pm

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I hear a lot of chatter about a second US civil war. God forbid the US descends into civil war, but if it did who would benefit more?

Russia/ China

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MonteChristo almost moist
01/29/19 1:24 pm

Politically Russia economically China. China would definitely have a more immediate impact of the war but Russia will likely have a greater but more prolonged affect

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omniku dot com
01/29/19 2:01 pm

Well said!

Although I do think there would be some immediate impact on China simply because our economies are so interwoven.

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