Do you approve of President Obama's job performance? (Dec. 2012)
Pali you prove MY point and demonstrate your sheer stupidity everytime you comment on ANYTHING.You are a true Obama cult brain washed think what the media tells you dumber than retarded know nothing Rachel stupid Madcow butt licking moron. Go get a real education. Stop living with mom & go to work.
I had forgotten that you were retarded. Thanks for reminding me.
Yikes. What an idiot. Jesus Christ. I doubt you can even read at this point. What a loser. Greatest accomplishment this year was buying a boat. Figures... I'm going to ignore you now. I don't want that shįt to spread on me
Wow. I was going to say something, but what you just said was far too much.
You're too stupid to get this. Why do you even bother talking politics when you're too stupid to comprehend things? Wow. Just wow. I've never. I don't even know. Just... Stupid. So ridiculously stupid. Goodbye
You are lying when you say that the current tax rate is acceptable. The evidence is above in this thread. Well the communists have just agreed to raise taxes on those making 400/450K a year to 39% . You think that is fair?? It is theft and extortion. NO American should have their taxes raised..
SaraPalinDrone has admitted that he is wrong about taxes totally and is dumber than a stump. He can't see past O's @ss because he's too busy kissing it as a cult follower. You are pathetic, intellectually bankrupt and will evade any question that proves your stupidity.Lol! You are a true moron.
But, you are too stupid to be embarrassed. You are nothing. Nothing but an Obama cult follower who doesn't know his @ss from a hole in the ground. You're not even man enough...... Oh wait, I forgot you're just a little boy living with his mamma so of course you won't answer the tax question.
No. You are stupid. Why won't you answer the question libtard? Afraid of showing your true colors? You would like to see other people's wealth redistributed to scum bags wouldn't you? You sound like a communist. Once again you lose. You sound like such a moron and you should be embarassed.
The current tax structure is unfair. The poor are not asked to pay their fair share. We need to reform the tax structure to ensure that everyone pays. As long as some pay 50% and some pay nothing, we will have politicians who exploit the non-payers.
It's not that people "dance around questions"- it's just that you're dumb. You don't understand the topic. You're used to being spoon-fed a narrative so you expect EVERYTHING to be explained to you like you're 5.
I'm going to tell you once more: I think the current tax rate is acceptable
Wow. You're seriously stupid. This is the shít I hate about these conversations. People get pig-headed and act like they know what they're talking about bc some pundit explained it to them like they're 5. You're out of your league here. Go BS someone else captain.
I JUST told you the current rate
Give me an answer instead of the Eisenhower or non answer. What percentage do you want to STEAL from other people?
What percentage? You dont dance around or avoid questions very well. So tell me WHAT PERCENTAGE SHOULD THE RICH PAY FROM THEIR INCOMES IN TAXES?
CaptBS- fair tax rate? Hmm, I could say the Eisenhower rate was good but it's kind of outdated. I'll say the current tax rate. That's not bad.
The hypothetical was what it was. And the flat tax failed even that simple scrutiny.
YOU are also part of the problem in our country. You and people like you are the reason we are having such problems. Take that to your Obonehead temple and smoke it.
Rasta YOU are a MORON and have nothing to say of value STFU you libtards.
YOU are really an idiot! The 20% rate was a hypothetical for illustrative purposes. HOW MUCH IS FAIR SHARE? ANSWER THE QUESTION. LAST CHANCE OR I WILL INTERPRET IT AS YOU CONCEDING. THE ENTIRE POINT.
So, it's fair to get poor, struggling people to pay 20% in taxes... But for the rich and middle class, 20% is UNBEARABLE!
You guys have absolutely NO integrity. That's why you guys are getting washed up. There's no integrity and no intelligence coming from people like you
20%-25% tax rate is already called "crippling" by the retards on the right when we're talking about taxes on the middle class. That's YOUR side's narrative idiot. But now you're trying to polish that turd and say, "eh, 20% isn't that bad... FOR POOR PEOPLE"
How does that even work out??
It may not seem like much to you but it's a tax INCREASE (and a HUGE one) on the poor.
On the flipside, it's a tax DECREASE (a huge one) on the rich. To go from paying 35% to paying 20%?
How is that "adjustment" fair? It's moving the goalpost. And, GASP, funny how it's in favor of the rich!
Right. It's by percentage. 20% is a 10%, sometimes 20% hike for a low income family. It shifts a greater burden onto the poor. 20% is 1/5 of a persons income. That's pretty crippling to a low income family. 1/5 of your income-- that's rent. That's food. That's utilities.
Even you can't be this stupid. You just refuse to concede that a flat tax is the way to go. So I ask you WHAT is so called fair share? EXACTLY what percentage? Granted you don't understand simple economics, but how much should the rich pay? Not answering the question means you concede the point. HA!
A flat tax is by percentage and does not favor any particular class and you know it. You are just ignoring the truth as libtards like yourself usually do. Why should the rich pay more? Because of your jealousy? Because you think they don't deserve their money? Robbing people is wrong. No new taxes!
Glad you're finished with your pointless rant.
Have a Happy New Year!
Oh and try to not to get worked up over obama, aimlessly arguing politics tends to ruin parties.
That, isn't factually correct, at all, not even close. Nice try though!!
And what about the huge hit it makes on the poor?
Pdrome ... You are so clueless. You lose even in your petty game. The fact is that the flat tax Is a rock solid and fair solution that will keep the politicians honest and solve the financial problems that our country faces.
You and MrO can continue to play games and our country will fail.
So you basically both admit that 20% would adversely affect the poor and then you trail off on some fantasy tangent about how people will magically lift themselves out of poverty and demand things from their politicians...
Lol. Ok. Got it
Pdrome ... you FINALLY GET IT! To the poor, 20% is a lot. And as a result, they would join the chorus to hold politicians accountable for their wasteful spending.
There is no other fairer way to tax the citizens than a flat RATE tax.
Real world? There's a fake world somewhere..? Is it like a different realm sort of thing or.... How does that work?
Also, what'd I lose? Haha I'm confused. Were we competing at something here?
I guess lower income people are just going to have to become more ambitious. You need to get out of your momma's basement and join us in the REAL world!
Dude, you lose again. Go cry to momma.
1/5 of your income is crippling to lower income families. More so than higher income. It gives the perception of fairness, but it isn't really. 1/5 out of a low-income budget means an already strained ledger becomes even more unworkable.
Liberals like you ignore the obvious truth because you want to TAKE the wealth from those who earned it and REDISTRIBUTE it to those that don't deserve it. That is called THEFT or STEALING. That is not "fair share". To tax the "rich" at a higher percentage is NOT fair. It's government confiscation.
Wow. That's really dumb and it's not the way taxes work. A flat tax would be based on a percentage and you know it. Let's say taxes for everyone were 20% period. No loopholes, exceptions or deductions(within reason). HOW does that favor the rich? 20% of $10,000 is $2,000. And it scales accordingly.
Tell me, how does a flat tax not favor the rich? It's a small portion of their income but the impact gets bigger as you go down
they have a "flat tax" on their kids.
The flat tax is 5 bucks.
-That leaves oldest with 15. Sucks but it's still workable.
-middle kid is left with 5. Barely anything but hey, 5 is better than nothing
-youngest kid gets nothing. It's all taken in tax.
A flat tax favors the rich. Let me paint the picture for you:
There's a family of 5. Parents + 3 kids
-Oldest kid is 12. He gets an allowance of 20
-Middle kid is 9. He gets an allowance of 10
-the youngest kid is 5. He gets an allowance of 5
These parents tax their kids allowance. They're dumb so
Even is half of what DeSousa presents is true, it paints a bleak and volatile picture of what O really stands for. Hillary? We know what she's about. O is unpredictable. Thank you FDR for illustrating the need for term limits!
In or be silent. Cracked values and ideals will be challenged and exposed despite the cult like devotion of the media and O's followers. It's merely a matter of a FINITE amount of time. For the sake of all of our children I hope this all eventually turns around. Check out the O 2016 movie. SCARY.
Hillary Clinton in '16 MAY not be a bad thing. She would certainly be better than O. I would hope that she and Bill would call for the reestablishment of traditional family values which are beneficial to the strength of our country. The conservative will endure the time of O. But we won't just give
True and honest sense of right and wrong. Ideals which are beneficial to the development and success of the family unit and the individual are needed here. The presence of O in the WH perpetuates the "legitimacy"of moral relativism despite the fact that O has on occasion spoken against such thinking
Se they reject the culture of moral relativism. They decide that they are better than to live in an are where a woman will have 5 kids from 5 different men and the one living with her is not the father of any of them. Acorn, MOVE, and the like perpetuate and defend this poison. What is needed is a
Schools are but one indicator of the harm that a lack of or sliding scale of values brings. The thing is the problems which come from such thinking are SELF INFLICTED. Liberal moral relativism will continue to create these dysfunctional societies and hobble their children. Some kids do escape becau
People in these areas (urban squaller) reject traditional American values wholesale and then will tell you that you can't tell them they are wrong or acting in socially harmful ways because it's not PC. Just look at the evidence. Schools don't fail children. Failed communities of moral relativism do
Yes. People are " evolving" into an entitlement mentality and a sense of moral relativism. This "growing" population does not want to be told no or that their ideals are wrong or harmful. Want to see the benefits of liberal moral relativism at work? Check out the public schools in the urban areas.
Pali : You can't use the logic of stupidity to defend this one. A flat tax would tax everyone the same. Why do you want to punish people who have worked for their success? Jealousy? Feelings of inadequacy? The rich should pay the same taxes as the rest of us. That would be fair. Period
Conservatives are off the hook. No matter what happens in the next 4 years O has to own it and all of you who voted for him will have to own it also. History will bring clarity and reveal the correct way this country should have decided. Not my fault folks!
Pdrome ,,, even you can come up with a better argument than that. Height and weight are irrelevant. Each of us has one vote. And with that one vote, we should be equally yoked as citizens. The only fair tax is a flat rate tax, with no deductions, no exemptions. MrO doesn't want fair share.
Working with reps is all he does. That's a major flaw of his. He bends to any proposal they throw at him.