Do you think the summit between the United States and North Korea would have also happened if Hillary Clinton were president?
Not sure. I think Trump’s whole “crazy guy” Schtick helped, but Clinton is kind of a Warhawk. I think she would have been a credible threat to North Korea in a way Obama never was. Overall I think Trump was better at getting North Korea to the table, but Clinton would have been better at getting something useful to come of it.
IF she could have brokered a deal, she would handed him a goofy reset button or CDs or some other inane symbol of friendship.... One thing is for sure, the media would have loved it and heralded it as historic and record shattering.
DPRK came to the US offering peace talks. The initiative was not on Trump or any other potential president. The backlash that any president would have faced for completely refusing them would have been enormous.
Only if North Korea agreed to give some sort of large donation to the Clinton foundation through their Canadian arm.
I don’t like Trump, but I seriously doubt Hillary would have taken the same route in this regard.
No, Hillary is always trying to appear macho like her male counterparts, instead of trying to bring the unique feminine experience to the table. She's a war mongerer.
Probably not. She's not nearly as pro-dictator and willing to bend over backwards for tyrants as he
It would have happened eventually. But not as a media circus. And no reality "celebrities" and if Hillary had won, at least she'd be talking in coherent sentences.
Seeing Hannitys flip flop was interesting.
Definitely not. She would probably pay them to have her or Bill come speak about what a good job they are doing with their rockets.
No. But if she did, the GOP would go crazy trying to get her in jail for "conspiring with commies", just for being a Democrat.
No we pretty much want peace on the Korean Peninsula too
In the past we have refused to recognize North Korea as a legitimate government because of their human rights violations among other things.
Probably not, but more because of North Korea than anything else.
No. The Clinton has already had a successful agreement with North Korea.
All Hail The Clinton!!!!!
Hillary would’ve been failed business as usual.
She probably would’ve just given them more money to make more nukes
North Korea signed a document pledging to denuclearize completely 🇺🇸🇰🇵
Whoever says yes why the fuck u lying
Nope. Kim and his regime would never respect a foreign female authority. So it never would have come to fruition no matter how capable the female in question.
Fare ... wait, Mrs Clinton is a female? Whoa, there’s a newsflash!
Am I the only one who thinks “summit” is a bit strong to describe what turned out to be some shaking of hands and a photo op in front of a bank of flags? I read that the total conversation time amounted to around 45 minutes. Maybe “NK-US chat over coffee” would be a little more appropriate although it admittedly doesn’t have the gravitas that “summit” has.
Well, a summit in terms of politics only means the meeting of two+ heads of government so it works well.
CV ... typical, focus on the definition of terms so you don’t have to acknowledge the progress made or the failure that would’ve been Mrs Clinton’s!
@Herring By strict definition, yes, it was a summit. It just feels to me like what we call a “summit” should be substantive and actually, you know, accomplish something?
@Think I see we have different definitions of progress. The agreement that came out of this meeting was basically a rehash of previous ones that NK went on to violate. See, for example:
I do not consider this progress. Perhaps you are aware of something else that came out of the meeting? Please do share with us.
CV ... keep that delusion alive! It will secure your irrelevance.
'World Leaders in cars getting coffee.' Jerry Seinfeld could drive.
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To quote a famous poet ( nina bonina osama bin laden brown/jasmine masters) - “ Hell to the no.”
Not a chance
No, and anyone saying it would have is just deluding themselves.
No, but she probably would’ve sent N. Korea a pallet of cash.
“Your pantsuit combo is the same color as mine!”
*both take a photo with arms wrapped around each other.
Mrs Clinton would’ve NEVER agreed to meet with Mr Kim because he couldn’t meet the minimum donation required!
Agreed. I’m sure Kim would have donated a few cold million to the “successful and legit” Clinton Foundation.
Still amazes me that they were able to get away with that scheme.
Bnnt ... I’m sure that Mr Clinton asked for money from Mr Kim’s father, which is why they ignored everything the corrupt Mr Clinton said and they simply took the money.
You gotta love this new world of instant gratification...
That is so right! Could not have said it better myself!
I don't think Kim would have made the offer, no. Kim couldn't play her like a fiddle the way he's played Trump.
Hillary so good and playing .. as a matter of fact she is now a stay at home former politician because she played Trump so well
She ran a terrible campaign. I don't think that has much to do with foreign policy.
If it wasn’t about her and her foundation she could give a phuck
Was ... hang on, the last president played by a Kim was Mr Clinton!
The one not played was MrT.
Remember what happened to Qaddafi? Hillary’s joking comment: “We came; we saw; he died.” No third world leader should EVER trust her. In fact, no one should ever trust her.
Sure, but it's not just her, it's the entire US government and history to be distrusted. And Trump is no exception.
Was ... it’s so fun to see the words that you are forced to eat so quickly after you spew them!
No. Can you imagine how many "off with her head" and "see, she really is a Communist" comments coming from Reps if she was the one meeting Kim? OMG, talk about a feeding frenzy.
The left is saying the same about Trump 💁♂️
And the left is using this as "evidence" that Trump is a dictator/wannabe dictator
...and so it goes...
Spirit ... it seems that you need a tissue and a hung.
Sometimes reality bites, don't it?
Spirit ... things are looking quite good now that we’ve freed ourselves from the horrible grip of MrO!
Lil Kim is only doing this because he blew up his nuclear faculty back in October and the fallout potentially threatened China.
Hahaha NO, she would have been over there racing him to the launch button.
She would be GIVING them nukes.
And millions of dollars would mysteriously appear in the Clinton foundation a few days later.
My favorite thing about this is we'll trust NK to get rid of their nuclear program but we won't trust Iran to? What's the difference between them?
NEVER Trust a muslim country, Kim genuinely looked happy to deal. I hope he has his peoples best interests at heart.
The Iran deal had no mechanism for verification or inspection. We released the sanctions, have them 150 billion dollars, and they continue development. Great deal.
Just making sure, that includes Saudi Arabia right?
That money was their own frozen assets...
GoC ... you really underestimate MrT if you think he’s as ignorant as MrO! There’s no way MrT will say to Mr Kim, sure, you go ahead and review your sites and then don’t worry about telling us.
You’re simply deluding yourself as MrO’s “agreement” was SO bad that the world laughed at MrO and the country. Mr Kim is not laughing now.
No, it would’ve been “bombs away” if Hellary the Horrible was elected.
No. She wouldn't have legitimized NK.
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Dik ... you really are a sore loser!
Never. She would not trust Kim and rightfully so, but I do believe she would have had some sort of back channel negotiations going on with North Korea.
Not a chance.
Kelly, we agree here! 👍😀
I'm starting to like you, zimmy 😜
Just don’t let him find out you have a Trump sticker on your car. He might Key it! 🤣
I'm sad to say I didn't have the courage to put a Trump sticker on my car. It would have been keyed or worse around here.
I *love* HRC.
No, the NK meetings would not have happened under her. She’s too smart for such a stupid angle. BUT I do hope Mr. Trump the best in falling right into KJ’s hand.
Oh, no. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if Trump can pull off the NK thing ...really pull it off... I’ll call him “Mister” President and I will respect his legacy no matter how much of a poop smear the rest of it is.
Ha ha no
This breaks a long precedent on how we deal with these issues, regardless of political party. Obama said he would advocate this type of approach before he became president. Obviously the powers that are not just talking heads advised him otherwise. There was obviously a change from those powers for whatever reason. Time will tell if this move to legitimize will be the correct one. I personally feel that NK will mostly play nice but I’m not sure what this opens the door to in the future with other developing nations.
No. She lost. Get over it.
That's not the question, calm down
I am calm.
Democrats are still whining over losing an election. Nobody knows if Hillary Clinton could of made peace with the Communist dictator in North Korea and we will never know. It’s a stupid question.
It's pretty safe to say Hillary wouldn't have followed the steps Trump took to make peace. She criticized Trump the entire way. She obviously sucks.
Nope. She would have never been so foolish. Clinton also would have never been so foolish as to give up military exercises for nothing other than an empty promise.
Did you own any “#ImWithHer” paraphernalia?
NK did give some up before the summit... Not sure if it equates to what we gave with the suspended joint military activity. But then again, there’s no clear definition of what extent that suspension of activity is either.
Libs keep whining while America keeps winning
I too can't see her sitting down and talking with our adversaries and not continuing the same policy we've tried for far too long. I too can't see her rushing in to it and making things worse and getting people killed and costing the Americna taxpayer billions.
Can't see her NOT* rushing
And trump supporters keep being bombastic. You could have actually contributed to the conversation instead of just dropping an incendiary comment with no substance, NBJR.
*some trump supporters
Found the whiner. Hello Benseth! An opinion that doesn’t resonate with yours doesn’t inherently invalidate it nor cause said opinion to be without substance. Ironically, your whining is fundamentally non-contributory to the furtherance of the OP’s statement.
Hahaha. You use too many big words for me. 😆 and therefore vis a vis I will not have continuance with a furtherfication of this colloquial interaction 😂
I can’t see this person’s comments anymore all of the sudden. I wonder what happened? 😂 The wordsmith must’ve gone supernova with too many wordy rants. 😆
I agree AP. I am about as anti trump as anyone but I was anti hillary way before and this is one of the biggest reasons. Trump may not have been the actual decider on us taking this different approach but he’s absolutely the better face, being so charismatic toward Kim. Did you see his smile when he looked at trump? 😃 I bet he was thinking to himself “Wow! I’m standing next to the guy in Little Rascals and Home Alone 2!” 😂 Hillary would have just given him some stupid symbolic piece of plastic and Kim would’ve been straight faced and up tight. Hopefully trump’s initial contact turns Kim toward ruling his country without the atrocities to his own people or nuclear threats to us.
I'm not liberal, but still very anti Trump. But I too still disliked her before she ran.
I really don’t think I’d objectively be defined as a liberal either. But I definitely am on here and in my hometown in Mississippi, mostly because of my outspoken disdain for the immoral and dim witted megalomaniac trump.
You are legit the first anti Trump Mississippian I've met
Lol. There are a few of us. It does make my life a whole lot tougher. Especially at family functions.
Is it because you're the only one not participating in the family 0rgy
And it was going so well... Although most Mississippians are mostly trump supporters, most are actually really good people. And while I’m sure there are some things going on in the backwoods somewhere, I’ve never even heard of an instance of incest in my 30 something years. It’s really only ignorance that perpetuates the myth that Mississippians are all inbred. And also, the history of incest is just as pervasive in other states, especially on the east coast and Midwest, than in the south. Where are you from?
I apologize, I really do. I made a bad joke at a bad time. Sorry for it
No worries. Thanks for apologizing.
I'm from Wisconsin. As part of my apology, I will insult this great state and my home.
We are all fat slobs who drink way too much.
😂 I have a good bud from Wisconsin so I know that’s not true. Well, the fat slob part anyway. The guy loves his Jack and Squirt for some reason. 😂 I had never even heard of Squirt before I met him.
I just realized I tossed you another softball in your wheelhouse. 😆 Don’t hurt me. 😂
No. Clinton and even Obama would have been too politically frightened to even discuss the idea.
Yup, Obama sure was too politically frightened to improve relations with Cuba.
Cuba doesn't have nukes, but, good on Obama for that
No traditional , career politician would have met with Kim.
Right now I wouldn't be surprised if China has a lot to do with it. Something along the lines of President Xi deciding that he's solidified power both domestically and within the Chinese sphere of influence to the point where a nuclear NK is just too much of a liability. Successful long range missile testing ups the risk at the same time that Kim's strategic usefulness is declining. Heck, this summit comes around right as China and NK are wrapping up some super secret meetings.
Point is, Trump's pressure on NK wasn't meaningless, but Xi would probably be pressuring Kim to deescalate on his end anyway.
No. Nothing good would have happened if she had been elected.
Hahaha, no way.
Of course not.
Just think, they could have worn matching pant suits..
Jazzy on point!