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AdamStephens June 11th, 2018 1:31am

Trump understands absolutely nothing about international trade.

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lj74
06/11/18 5:33 am

Riiiight. Which is why he is a billionaire.

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sstein555
06/11/18 6:38 am

Riiight because his business was built on trade between multiple countries.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 6:47 pm

His success in international business says otherwise.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
06/10/18 6:45 pm

As a businessman and billionaire he should know a lot about all kinds of trade, finances, the stock market etc.

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AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 6:47 pm

What is his business anyway? I mean besides leading his name, or his father's name. As far as I can tell any one of us could have done better with 259million of New York real estate willed to him.

sstein555
06/10/18 6:50 pm

He would be no expert in finance. He only has a cursory understanding of the nyc real estate market 30 years ago. Besides that he’s an expert in PR, marketing and branding.

AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 6:59 pm

Unless he's going to be making Trump branded "make America grate again" greese graters I don't see his branding and marketing expertise doing so well right now.

sstein555
06/10/18 7:15 pm

Not great for leading the country but great at getting elected or re-elected. Especially in a country so divided on what is fact.

AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 7:24 pm

Or personifying the id of the republican party.

sstein555
06/10/18 7:34 pm

The forgotten of both parties in truth though. It’s not just republicans that voted for him.

AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 7:38 pm

No more democrats voted for him than Mitt Romney. This keeps being repeated that he's picking up alienated members of the other party but in every election around 10% votes for an opposing party. Sure some democrats voted for him like some Republicans voted for Hillary.

sstein555
06/10/18 7:40 pm

Yeah I guess he picked up votes though because he did win. I know with less votes but he still did it somehow.

AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 7:43 pm

Well I think a lot of liberals stayed home for Hillary, that hurt her in those blue states but I doubt Trump got more votes than Romney in most of those states. Or maybe there are states becoming more republican like Wisconsin, it makes sense but states like Virginia and North Carolina are moving into the democrat column.

4Freedom1776
06/10/18 7:47 pm

He’s a real estate developer

sstein555
06/10/18 7:51 pm

He was kinda at some point but he wasn’t involved in the day to day of dealing with the contractor and what not. He just invested and put his name on the project.

commonman1 Peace
06/10/18 11:36 pm

Yea he can’t be any kind of business man. His net worth is $3.5 billion and he sole principle owner of over 500 business. Not to mention 33 projects under development. No business sense at

sstein555
06/11/18 6:42 am

3.5 is an overestimate but I’m not saying he’s an idiot when it comes to business. I’m saying he’s made some huge mistakes in areas outside of his expertise. That being real estate in New York City. That’s a lucrative business but if you have the money to invest, which trump did, it would have been hard to screw up a market like that if you were willing to take the risk. He’s now just a brand though which is hands off and requires very little personal skill other than talking out of your ass and over exaggerating which he’s great at.

commonman1 Peace
06/11/18 7:33 am

Check any web site to find his worth. Easy fact check. True he started with money but no one will say he isn't a shrew business man except those who hate him but that's a given. He's brought those negotiating skills to the white house. We're watching those skills every day. We've never had a president who told North Korea to get rid of their nukes or we'll get rid of them for you. Surely he's not like Obama who gave money to Iran to develop weapons of mass destruction and destabilize peace. If Trump accomplish peace in Korea it will be a history making accomplishment. But the haters will say it isn't him who did it but history will.

sstein555
06/11/18 7:36 am

Right but his negotiating hasn’t accomplished anything yet. No one has capitulated. Net worth 3.1 from what I found at most and 900M at worst. He has a track record of horrible business practices and has definitely brought mismanagement to the White House.

sstein555
06/11/18 7:37 am

No need to bring up obama. Just talking about trump.

commonman1 Peace
06/11/18 8:00 am

Just a comparison to support my negotiating argument.

sstein555
06/11/18 8:49 am

Also the Iran deal is on its face meant to stop Iran from developing nukes for ten years in return for lifted sanctions. It’s not like we’re paying them to build nukes and you know it.

sstein555
06/11/18 8:50 am

But either way it doesn’t make much of an argument in comparison. Use Kissinger or something if you wanna talk about negotiating in diplomacy.

commonman1 Peace
06/11/18 9:18 am

Just saying if you compare the horrible deal with Iran to the possible history changing deal with North Korea, Trump negotiation skills far outweighs Obama's. Trump's would result in peace where Obama's terrorism and unrest in the Middle East.

AdamStephens West Virginia
06/11/18 9:23 am

You keep saying that because your party leaders say it but they stopped building nuclear weapons and nuclear sanctions were lifted, did you want a blowjob too? How will denuclearization with North Korean better?

sstein555
06/11/18 9:55 am

Also nothing has happened with NK yet.

commonman1 Peace
06/11/18 9:59 am

You will see Adam as we slaps sanctions on Iran. The repressive regime will fall and the people of Iran can once again become part of the civilize world.

commonman1 Peace
06/11/18 10:04 am

Sstein even though you hope he fails it’s closest we been to peace in the region.

smartfart Florida
06/10/18 6:36 pm

I think he understands that countries trade stuff...but that’s about it.

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mudkip17 United States of Texas
06/10/18 6:36 pm

No he understands some, obviously, his deal making was the whole reason he won the election. But he deals in what he knows. 1on1 deals, strictly bilateral. Trade agreements are A LOT more complex and I think he's too stubborn to open up to it. He sees one good deal and takes but then sees a bad deal and says fuck that, without accepting that he got that good deal in exchange for a bad deal with someone else so that that country then gives a deal to the country we got good deal from.

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AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 6:38 pm

Has he made any deals yet? I mean what has he brokered? I only recall him messing up stuff.

mudkip17 United States of Texas
06/10/18 6:47 pm

Oh don't get me wrong, I think he's been terrible at it. Just trying to be subjective

AdamStephens West Virginia
06/10/18 6:49 pm

I'm not being accusatory, I really can't think of any.

sstein555
06/10/18 6:51 pm

He’s done okay on some deals but there are a lot that have gone awry. Atlantic City being a prime example.