Both the male goat and lightning bolts have been used as symbols for sexuality. And it looks like a weird mjolnir with oddly shaped Celtic knot. Does it look new or cheap?
No clue, but it’s pretty cool.
That’s what I was going to say. I think that ox head or whatever is their mascot or god or something.
Baphomet with Thor’s hammer?
Nordic for, live long and prosper, may the force be with you.
It’s not Thor’s hammer, which goes to a point at the bottom/middle - almost like an anchor. Could be an anti-trump thing goo.gl/images/XP46Re
It looks like some kind of astrology thing ?
Viking pagan hammer
A sex medal.
Not everything is a sex medal, Ron!
They why the goat?
For the 100th time, goats aren’t just for sex!
Historically, goats, bulls and pigs have been symbols of sexuality.
Look at satyrs, for example.
(Not confirming it's a sex medal, just stating.)
No, otherwise I’d have one.
From my observation, for men everything is about sex.
It's a protection amulet, see below.
It is a Celtic stylized version of the Viking Celtic Knot Mjolnir. The lightning symbols are from Thor hitting his hammer. The “knots” on the bottom are an attempt at a Celtic knot. The mjolnir alone was used in Viking mythology. Once the Vikings spread, various cultures adapted features. Rams and goats heads started to appear on the top of the hammer and the tip and the middle of the bottom was leveled off.
If it’s new, it may have something to do with Thor Ragnarok or an attempt to merge Satanism (the head) with Asaru and the artists personal conceptualization.
To me, it’s a highly stylized Celtic mjolnir and while not Xian, is also not Satanic.
Btw, my dad looked at this. These are more his words than mine. Mine was going to be just “that’s creepy”
Yeah, I agree with all of that. It’s still a curious thing for a kid to come across at a bible camp.
And the symbols do have specific parallels to satanism in Christianity.
Here is one very similar
Mjolnir looks a lot like a stylized satanic cross altar, and the ram’s head is a satanic symbol that represents sacrifice when placed on top of the altar.
But I agree that it’s probably just a Thor pendant.
I mean no offense here but aren’t many things equated with Satanism in Xianity? I could be wrong, I just have that impression, wrong as it could be.
I’m not sure what would qualify as “many things.”
There are a lot of pagan symbols that were adopted by satanists in an attempt to hijack claims to antiquity, and so Christians identify those symbols as satanic in that context- but that can’t really be blamed on Christianity or Christians. We’re just reacting to the satanists.
Oh well that makes sense. The knot at the bottom is Xian. The hammer itself is Viking paganism and the rams head was a common symbol for a main deity, going by different names, from Rome to Japan. Ireland certainly had a thing for the ram. I would suspect it symbolized manliness or fighting to the death, maybe strength. I don’t know.
I think it’s weird for a kid to get at camp, any camp actually.
The mjolnir predates Xianity but was fairly distinct until they leveled off the bottom in some cultures. Then it did begin to look a lot like an upside down cross.
However, if you ever go to the Vatican, you will see upside down crosses. I thought it odd until we were told that was “St Peters Cross” and is thus, revered in the Vatican as it is to have been built on his place of execution. We were told that cross was a sign of Xian humility. It was co-opted by Satanist. No one is really sure why except perhaps news of what St Peters cross was, was very slow to spread or was lost over time in mainstream Xian education.
I only know this because I found it seriously bizarre to see there.
Yeah, peter’s cross is definitely not a symbol of satanism and is only misinterpreted as such by evangelicals and other nuts.
The satanic cross usually has other symbols attached to it- like the ram’s head.
I know Thor’s cart was pulled by goats he could eat pieces off of, and then they’d regenerate
Yeah two of them.
Not satanism, paganism.
Yeah. He’d kill and eat them every night, and then put the bones back in their skin. They’d regenerate by morning.
Those weren’t rams, though- they were goats. Rams are male sheep, and are a satanic symbol because rams, unlike sheep (which is a Christian symbol) are aggressive, oppositional, and usually attack the shepherd.
So is that a picture of a ram or a goat?
Depends on whether you see it as a satanic symbol or a pagan symbol.
I lean toward pagan, but since it was slipped into a goodie bag by a disgruntled teen at a bible camp, I think it’s come to symbolize stupidity.
Shouldn’t the animal look like a donkey then?
I like how we’re making our own medal, and you have already given it a name.
Maybe we can pass it out at the next Democrat election party.
Your dad is smart, RT.
That's basically what I got from it.
The goat head is in the baphomet style, but it could just also be there to enforce the paganist meanings of mjolnir and the Celtic knotwork (which, yes, come from different cultures, but are also both symbols used in some forms of neo-paganism, like Green Magic beliefs and some Wiccan branches.)
I'd ask why it was in the grab bag.
I'm open to other ideologies, of course, but it is not something I'd expect to see in a Christian grab-bag, and that merits investigation.
Whichever meaning was intended (luciferian, neo-pagan, "pseudo-historic" curio) it's distinctly non-Christian, lol.
I’d throw it away! I doubt you want that around your children.
Looking into it more, I found a number of pendants with the mjulnir-knotwork-goat motif. It's definitely neo-pagan of the Nordic variety, so it's not luciferian or anything. The goat is associated, in part, with Thor, being that his chariot is pulled by two of them. It's likely intended as a symbol of protection.
Well, the Celtic artwork on the bottom would be a nod to Xianity I believe. I could be wrong
Not necessarily, the Celts were pagan, as a people, and much closer to the Norse than the Romans (which is probably why their art-styles are confused and combines by people now.)
However, I actually think the goat head is supposed to be Baphomet. The horns are not truly right for the goats involved in the Thor myth.
I’m back to my statement, it’s just kind of creepy looking. Odd thing to get at a kids camp.
Baphomet horns angle upward, and are supposed to look like a cup
It looks like some angled more horizontal.
In most representation, Milkdud is correct (of course, there are always people who don't know this, but want to make something edgy.)
Still, this combination of images is common, and the items are normally worn as protective amulets.
I would say that’s true and the head is simply the artistic rendition.
If you’re wearing a baphomet amulet, I’m not sure who you’re trying to be protected from.
And even weirder, it was brought home from a bible camp.
Very weird. Even weirder than all of that is somebody could believe in a false god, and take the time and money to make something to honor it. Who can really believe in such a thing?
The lightening bolts are reminiscent of some Thule imagery.
I talked to the camp director. He said he has no idea where it came from, and that it was probably slipped into their reward box. He’s chalking it up as a prank.
My daughter liked it because she likes the goats at the petting zoo and because it’s gold, which automatically makes it fancy.
It’s just going to disappear and she’ll forget about it in a few days.
Did your daughter go to this?
Yeah, but it was a Ba’al camp, not a Molech camp. I’m asking for my money back.
I don’t think i would send her to a Protestant Bible camp again.
Also, I can tell from what small parts of your hand are visible in the image that you have cancer and you’re going to die soon.
No, those are just the burns from the pendant. It’s already boiled through two gallons of holy water. If I could get my daughter to stop rolling around on the ceiling I would make her throw the stupid thing out.
Then again, I might put it into a makeshift steam engine and get off the grid by converting it’s raw evil into cheap electrical power.
Creepiest crackerjack prize ever?
Close! One of my kids brought this home from a daytime week long bible camp. It was mixed into a grab bag of plastic junk from one of those party goods stores- with plastic rings, plastic kazoos, temporary tattoos, etc.
But this is labeled as electroplated gold over sterling silver.
Well, that’s a bit odd, no? I mean, in addition to the lightning bolts, infinity symbols, and goat head of course.
Yeah, there’s not really a part of this that isn’t weird.
It’s very creepy Milk. I’d make sure to sprinkle some holy water over it before throwing away. And don’t throw it away in your trash - throw it in a public place trash can , just in case. 👹. Why would they give that out?
I think it was some sort of prank.
Bible camp?!!! 😮
It looks like a Satanic symbol to Baal.
Yeah, I know. But the story behind how I happened to come across it doesn’t mesh with that very well.
It could also be some sort of Celtic symbol.
Goat’s Head, upside down cross, 3 lightning bolts on each side (33). Satanic.
Were you kidding about it being made of metal? Surely it’s just a plastic trinket.
No, it’s electroplated gold over silver. Still just going to throw it out.
I would be extremely concerned if this isn’t a cheap trinket. Why was she given it? Who gave it to her? This doesn’t sound like a “prank” at all.
She picked it out of a bag of cheap party favors. I’ve already spoken to the head of the camp and I’m pretty sure it’s nothing but a prank.
You could get something like this a pawn shop for 5 bucks
It looks more inviting than Celtic to me.