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benseth 11,780 votes
06/10/18 6:51 pm

Both the male goat and lightning bolts have been used as symbols for sexuality. And it looks like a weird mjolnir with oddly shaped Celtic knot. Does it look new or cheap?

GeneralDevin MN
06/10/18 3:05 pm

Looks satanic.

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xxxceo Nationalist
06/10/18 4:30 pm

That’s what I was going to say. I think that ox head or whatever is their mascot or god or something.

Liberty 4,032,064
06/10/18 12:51 pm

Baphomet with Thor’s hammer?

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kspells TheOtherOtherside
06/10/18 12:49 pm

Nordic for, live long and prosper, may the force be with you.

TheMadScientist the mad laboratory
06/10/18 12:21 pm

It’s not Thor’s hammer, which goes to a point at the bottom/middle - almost like an anchor. Could be an anti-trump thing goo.gl/images/XP46Re

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lcamino Florida and Georgia
06/10/18 11:59 am

It looks like some kind of astrology thing ?

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 11:20 am

Not everything is a sex medal, Ron!

rons Thanks America
06/10/18 11:23 am

They why the goat?

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 11:25 am

For the 100th time, goats aren’t just for sex!

ctskapski x
06/10/18 11:52 am

Historically, goats, bulls and pigs have been symbols of sexuality.
Look at satyrs, for example.
(Not confirming it's a sex medal, just stating.)

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
06/10/18 12:02 pm

From my observation, for men everything is about sex.

ctskapski x
06/10/18 12:06 pm

It's a protection amulet, see below.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 10:47 am

It is a Celtic stylized version of the Viking Celtic Knot Mjolnir. The lightning symbols are from Thor hitting his hammer. The “knots” on the bottom are an attempt at a Celtic knot. The mjolnir alone was used in Viking mythology. Once the Vikings spread, various cultures adapted features. Rams and goats heads started to appear on the top of the hammer and the tip and the middle of the bottom was leveled off.
If it’s new, it may have something to do with Thor Ragnarok or an attempt to merge Satanism (the head) with Asaru and the artists personal conceptualization.

To me, it’s a highly stylized Celtic mjolnir and while not Xian, is also not Satanic.

Btw, my dad looked at this. These are more his words than mine. Mine was going to be just “that’s creepy”

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MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:51 am

Yeah, I agree with all of that. It’s still a curious thing for a kid to come across at a bible camp.
And the symbols do have specific parallels to satanism in Christianity.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:53 am

Mjolnir looks a lot like a stylized satanic cross altar, and the ram’s head is a satanic symbol that represents sacrifice when placed on top of the altar.

But I agree that it’s probably just a Thor pendant.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 10:54 am

I mean no offense here but aren’t many things equated with Satanism in Xianity? I could be wrong, I just have that impression, wrong as it could be.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:56 am

I’m not sure what would qualify as “many things.”
There are a lot of pagan symbols that were adopted by satanists in an attempt to hijack claims to antiquity, and so Christians identify those symbols as satanic in that context- but that can’t really be blamed on Christianity or Christians. We’re just reacting to the satanists.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 11:01 am

Oh well that makes sense. The knot at the bottom is Xian. The hammer itself is Viking paganism and the rams head was a common symbol for a main deity, going by different names, from Rome to Japan. Ireland certainly had a thing for the ram. I would suspect it symbolized manliness or fighting to the death, maybe strength. I don’t know.
I think it’s weird for a kid to get at camp, any camp actually.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 11:08 am

The mjolnir predates Xianity but was fairly distinct until they leveled off the bottom in some cultures. Then it did begin to look a lot like an upside down cross.

However, if you ever go to the Vatican, you will see upside down crosses. I thought it odd until we were told that was “St Peters Cross” and is thus, revered in the Vatican as it is to have been built on his place of execution. We were told that cross was a sign of Xian humility. It was co-opted by Satanist. No one is really sure why except perhaps news of what St Peters cross was, was very slow to spread or was lost over time in mainstream Xian education.

I only know this because I found it seriously bizarre to see there.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 11:21 am

Yeah, peter’s cross is definitely not a symbol of satanism and is only misinterpreted as such by evangelicals and other nuts.

The satanic cross usually has other symbols attached to it- like the ram’s head.

js132 Texas
06/10/18 11:22 am

I know Thor’s cart was pulled by goats he could eat pieces off of, and then they’d regenerate

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 11:32 am

Yeah. He’d kill and eat them every night, and then put the bones back in their skin. They’d regenerate by morning.

Those weren’t rams, though- they were goats. Rams are male sheep, and are a satanic symbol because rams, unlike sheep (which is a Christian symbol) are aggressive, oppositional, and usually attack the shepherd.

js132 Texas
06/10/18 11:34 am

So is that a picture of a ram or a goat?

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 11:36 am

Depends on whether you see it as a satanic symbol or a pagan symbol.
I lean toward pagan, but since it was slipped into a goodie bag by a disgruntled teen at a bible camp, I think it’s come to symbolize stupidity.

js132 Texas
06/10/18 11:41 am

Shouldn’t the animal look like a donkey then?

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 11:43 am

Touché

js132 Texas
06/10/18 11:45 am

I like how we’re making our own medal, and you have already given it a name.

Maybe we can pass it out at the next Democrat election party.

ctskapski x
06/10/18 11:55 am

Your dad is smart, RT.
That's basically what I got from it.
The goat head is in the baphomet style, but it could just also be there to enforce the paganist meanings of mjolnir and the Celtic knotwork (which, yes, come from different cultures, but are also both symbols used in some forms of neo-paganism, like Green Magic beliefs and some Wiccan branches.)

ctskapski x
06/10/18 11:58 am

I'd ask why it was in the grab bag.

I'm open to other ideologies, of course, but it is not something I'd expect to see in a Christian grab-bag, and that merits investigation.
Whichever meaning was intended (luciferian, neo-pagan, "pseudo-historic" curio) it's distinctly non-Christian, lol.

lcamino Florida and Georgia
06/10/18 12:02 pm

I’d throw it away! I doubt you want that around your children.

ctskapski x
06/10/18 12:03 pm

Looking into it more, I found a number of pendants with the mjulnir-knotwork-goat motif. It's definitely neo-pagan of the Nordic variety, so it's not luciferian or anything. The goat is associated, in part, with Thor, being that his chariot is pulled by two of them. It's likely intended as a symbol of protection.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 12:40 pm

Well, the Celtic artwork on the bottom would be a nod to Xianity I believe. I could be wrong

ctskapski x
06/10/18 12:47 pm

Not necessarily, the Celts were pagan, as a people, and much closer to the Norse than the Romans (which is probably why their art-styles are confused and combines by people now.)

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 12:51 pm

However, I actually think the goat head is supposed to be Baphomet. The horns are not truly right for the goats involved in the Thor myth.

I’m back to my statement, it’s just kind of creepy looking. Odd thing to get at a kids camp.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 12:53 pm

Baphomet horns angle upward, and are supposed to look like a cup

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 12:58 pm

It looks like some angled more horizontal.

ctskapski x
06/10/18 12:59 pm

In most representation, Milkdud is correct (of course, there are always people who don't know this, but want to make something edgy.)
Still, this combination of images is common, and the items are normally worn as protective amulets.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/10/18 1:01 pm

I would say that’s true and the head is simply the artistic rendition.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 1:02 pm

If you’re wearing a baphomet amulet, I’m not sure who you’re trying to be protected from.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:21 am

Yeah, weird.
And even weirder, it was brought home from a bible camp.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
06/10/18 10:23 am

Very weird. Even weirder than all of that is somebody could believe in a false god, and take the time and money to make something to honor it. Who can really believe in such a thing?

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
06/10/18 10:26 am

The lightening bolts are reminiscent of some Thule imagery.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:26 am

I talked to the camp director. He said he has no idea where it came from, and that it was probably slipped into their reward box. He’s chalking it up as a prank.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:28 am

My daughter liked it because she likes the goats at the petting zoo and because it’s gold, which automatically makes it fancy.

It’s just going to disappear and she’ll forget about it in a few days.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
06/10/18 10:28 am

Did your daughter go to this?

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:31 am

Yeah, but it was a Ba’al camp, not a Molech camp. I’m asking for my money back.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
06/10/18 10:31 am

I don’t think i would send her to a Protestant Bible camp again.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:33 am

Definitely not.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
06/10/18 10:34 am

Also, I can tell from what small parts of your hand are visible in the image that you have cancer and you’re going to die soon.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:36 am

No, those are just the burns from the pendant. It’s already boiled through two gallons of holy water. If I could get my daughter to stop rolling around on the ceiling I would make her throw the stupid thing out.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:36 am

Then again, I might put it into a makeshift steam engine and get off the grid by converting it’s raw evil into cheap electrical power.

Rob Be Safe Be Smart
06/10/18 10:13 am

Creepiest crackerjack prize ever?

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MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:21 am

Close! One of my kids brought this home from a daytime week long bible camp. It was mixed into a grab bag of plastic junk from one of those party goods stores- with plastic rings, plastic kazoos, temporary tattoos, etc.

But this is labeled as electroplated gold over sterling silver.

Rob Be Safe Be Smart
06/10/18 10:27 am

Well, that’s a bit odd, no? I mean, in addition to the lightning bolts, infinity symbols, and goat head of course.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:31 am

Yeah, there’s not really a part of this that isn’t weird.

chickencookie Merry Christmas
06/10/18 11:58 am

It’s very creepy Milk. I’d make sure to sprinkle some holy water over it before throwing away. And don’t throw it away in your trash - throw it in a public place trash can , just in case. 👹. Why would they give that out?

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 12:51 pm

I think it was some sort of prank.

thebarr
06/10/18 10:06 am

It looks like a Satanic symbol to Baal.

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MrMilkdud
06/10/18 10:09 am

Yeah, I know. But the story behind how I happened to come across it doesn’t mesh with that very well.
It could also be some sort of Celtic symbol.

kscott516 Masks fail
06/10/18 12:20 pm

Lfb 👍🏻

Goat’s Head, upside down cross, 3 lightning bolts on each side (33). Satanic.

thebarr
06/10/18 12:28 pm

Were you kidding about it being made of metal? Surely it’s just a plastic trinket.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 12:51 pm

No, it’s electroplated gold over silver. Still just going to throw it out.

thebarr
06/10/18 1:02 pm

I would be extremely concerned if this isn’t a cheap trinket. Why was she given it? Who gave it to her? This doesn’t sound like a “prank” at all.

MrMilkdud
06/10/18 1:04 pm

She picked it out of a bag of cheap party favors. I’ve already spoken to the head of the camp and I’m pretty sure it’s nothing but a prank.
You could get something like this a pawn shop for 5 bucks

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
06/10/18 1:07 pm

It looks more inviting than Celtic to me.