President Trump said he likely will support a congressional effort to end the federal ban on marijuana. Do you agree with President Trump on this issue?
Depends, I don't want to be smelling it everywhere I go. Maybe if they just make public areas no smoking zones it would be fine.
It should be a state's rights issue though so I will say a federal ban should go
Wow. What a fascist, right @Korosensei?
I support it for the sole reason of there are way to many people locked up in this country over petty bullshit.
Yes, I agree with his current statements on this. That’s why I voted for legalization of recreational as well as medical marijuana here in Colorado shortly after I moved here and was happy when it passed. I’d like to see it legalized nationally (but I’m fairly content to see that happen a little slowly as the states that have already legalized it come to grips with some of the nuances).
I don’t use the stuff any more but believe that others (adults, for recreational use) should be able to use it, responsibly.
Do I trust that Trump won’t do a reverse on this as he has on some other issues? Not completely. I’ll be pleased if he continues to support a responsible bill for it though.
Repeal the 17th!!!!!!
Okay, I'll bite. Why?
A step to restore some elements of States rights.
I support this very much. I don't use marijuana but I know so many people that do/have. These people are NOT criminals. Its legal in my state and it should be every where.
The worst decision of a terrible administration.
Society is only going to get more stupid.
Yes, I was anti until recently. It’s a good thing overall, and a smart strategic maneuver to gain some millennial votes.
You were anti weed?? Really? But you’re so smart! Why were you against it?
Eh, I don’t have a good reason, and in hindsight I was wrong. I assumed that we didn’t need any more products that impaired us or dumbed us down. Then three things changed my mind:
My argument against liberals is that if they don’t like something, they want to ban it. I always said if you don’t like it, just don’t buy it, don’t prevent others. I had to be consistent with weed.
Secondly, my last dog was like 15 and having health problems. My vet told me about cannipet. I gave it to him and it changed his life and gave him a few more good years. He wasn’t in pain anymore.
Finally, I have some chronic pain. I started vaping CBD oil and it helped tremendously.
While I still don’t enjoy getting high, I like the health benefits for myself and others. It’s not up to me to decide what others do.
Live and let live.
And you misspelled genius.
I’m with ya on the cbd. I have chronic pain too. I use a dropper full and my pain is gone for a few days. It’s almost a miracle.
I’d rather drink than smoke weed, but I do enjoy a little every now and then. I love having sex when high. That’s the best.
Glad you came around.
No doubt about the sex. The cbd upped my game to multiple times a night. I feel like I’m 18. It works even better on my gf haha.
So I’m creeping as usual and I’ve never done the weed in any form but if sex whilst high is anything like sex while in the early stages of a good alcohol buzz, i may be curious to try. And i have some intermittent pain from autoimmune disease but I usually just deal. I’d be interested in helping it.
It’s better than a buzz. Intense.
Try cbd oil for your pain. It doesn’t get you high, and it’s soooooo much better than Motrin or aspirin or Tylenol or whatever
Zing a ding ding
As usual Voc is correct. Try CBD for sex and pain. I make my own and vape it but you can just buy it too online. Think of us as you toke.
Lol. Great, now the head busybody here will take that info and run with it.
I shouldn’t ask but I’m drinking and bored.
A certain user accused voc and I (or is it me) of having an affair because we basically agreed on the topic and apparently having friends here that you agree with equals an affair, equals bullying and whatever other bullshit they were puimgX
Yeah it was pretty fucked up.
Word. And then the topper was making these accusations, refusing to respond to our responses and then blocking us and retreating to their safe space.
Ah. SOH is great like that.
It’s about time. Let’s see if Congressional Republicans and Sessions get behind it.
Sessions is a Low IQ idiot who probably only backed Trump to get back at the Establishment Republicans. If you remember Sessions Was denied appointments under Bush 43 and lucked out when Trump won because Trump was Loyal to Sessions only to be stabbed in the Back.
Sessions is a man of honor.
Rather than stab him in the back
He chose to stab DJT in the chest
Agreed, just like peace on the Korean peninsula, not holding breath though.
I do not support this horrible idea. We don’t need yet another legal way for people to ruin their lives and the lives of the people they touch.
Oh im so ruined...
Oh no, Bobo, you indeed enjoy the weed?
How could i enjoy something so terrible and enjoyable?
Think- I agree with you 99% except on this. After seeing Epilepsy Suffering Children, PTSD Vets & People with Neurological problems Cry for Joy at their progress on this Drug. Imagine what our Scientists can find out if Marijuana were RE-Scheduled to a 3-4 instead of a 1 like Heroin. It is too risky to even study.
Or CBB oil for seizures.
TC ... the respect is mutual. I also see the harm to millions of lives caused by the use of yet another intoxicant. The harm caused to innocent lives outweighs the benefits.
That could be true. Do you have the same sense of urgency to protect the community from injury from alcohol, tobacco, and French fries. They have demonstrated far greater harm.
Now see, this is why I'm not a conservative. Both liberals and conservatives have the same mindset.
"Sure I'm for freedom, but for the sake of others I have to force people to act in accordance with my wishes. After all, I know what is best for them. You dare cite problems with my interference? I'll tune you out because I know best, and after all, look how well meaning I am."
Freedom works, neither left wing nor right wing control does.
Mark ... you mischaracterize and over-simplify.
I actually couldn’t care less what you do with your body as long as ... (1) you sign a release stating that taxpayers won’t be on the hook to care for you after you do the stupid things you want to do, (2) and that when you do the stupid things you feel that you must, you are prevented from harming innocent people.
The problem with drugs, alcohol and tobacco is that your freedoms to consume also come with your selfish ability to harm others. You actually have no right to do that! Yet the rest of us are told that because of your freedoms, we’re supposed to just suck it up and shut up.
Hammer ... yes, because alcohol and tobacco have implications of harm to innocents and societal impacts, something must be done to stop the harm caused.
Hey we agree!
I am in favor of a "sin tax" that pays for the added cost of careless habits:
Smoking-easy $10 tax per pack
Alcohol- $2 per drink $5 after the third drink st a bar
Belts- $25 size 28-34, $50 size 34-42, $1000 above 42" waist
Hammer ... will sin taxes eliminate the innocent deaths caused by selfish individuals. And your proposed taxes do not cover the healthcare needs of these selfish people, so I say that if you drink, smoke or use any other intoxicant, you are automatically disqualified from any public ally funded healthcare.
Take it as far as you think society will allow. While I'm a liberal thinker, I am very much into personal responsibility. I am not suggesting a sin tax levels the playing field. It's just a start.
Also: no one should condone the damage done nor should they profit from it. Correct?
Think, that is exactly how government grows, and grows, and grows.
For freedom to survive you have to attack the problem rather than conceding the necessity for government interference. Stop the costs taxpayers incur. Stop giving it the excuse.
And no one has suggested you suck it up and shut up. You want to get a bunch of vigilantes to watch for people endangering others by getting high and getting into a vehicle, go ahead and more power to you. But you assumption that someone who smokes a doobie is automatically some threat is just ridiculous.
Over eaters should be forced onto diets?
Face it, do-gooders are a bigger threat than tokers.
Not suggesting any of that.
Your ability to fabricate an argument out of a simple statement amazes me.
I have not written a sin tax legislative initiative. I mentioned it in JEST, not as a panacea.
We live in a compromised society where all strata are screaming for preferential treatment. The only ones I contribute effort and action, are the working class.
Well except for the diet part.
If you need to be on a diet, you can expect me to glare and if I'm behind you in the grocery checkout, I looking at what you buy!!
Mark ... the very reason we have a government is to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I suggest to you that unlike handing out Obama phones, the government has a duty to protect us from drunks and stoners.
Your assertion that this is the cause of government growth is ridiculous on its face.
☝️ I think we should get HIM high on reefer then let him on here. 😁
Lady ... I suspect that MrO spends most of his time high.
I suggest to you that unlike handing out Obama phones, the government has a duty to protect us from drunks and stoners.
No one has suggested otherwise, but just as government's responsibility is to keep drunk drivers from hurting others rather than keeping people from drinking, so it is with marijuana.
Your assertion that this is the cause of government growth is ridiculous on its face.
That's easily rebutted. Just exactly like liberals, conservatives enact laws to force people to live as conservatives think proper. Certainly, in the case of marijuana, that entails adding a whole new bureaucracy to hound people who may only be trying to get relief from pain or glaucoma. The laws against it make the product ridiculously expensive, meaning the corruption of police, judges, and lawmakers, and the cost of imprisoning of a huge number of people, some bad but most not.
I heard those "Obama phones" are crap. So you can quit sneering at them.
Client lives in SoCal
MJ personal grow laws are funny
Any uninhabited room
Guess you have to grow in your bedroom!!
Mark ... how is the government doing st keeping us safe from drunk drivers? Given that they’re doing a HORRIBLE job at it, why in the world would we add other unnecessary intoxicants that ruin lives and murder innocents?
Think- because maki g it illegal occupies 100,000's hour of police work, a billion dollars, and $60,000 per year for each person who sells done MJ.
Stop all that wasted resources.
Patrol late night bars for drunks
Sting operation for drunks
Protest weak sentences for drunks who murder people and get 1-2 years
The harm done by alcohol in one year is probably more than MJ in the last 1,000.
Do a few peeps become stingers and waste their lives? Yes
But we have 10,000 alcoholics in full expression.
Prohibition did not work for alcohol, it clearly is not working for marijuana and any legalization is most likely to do more good than harm.
Personally I don't like the excessive use of alcohol. Marijuana, coffee or nicotine. I just don't consider it The governments job to decide who kills themselves with which chemical.
...that ruin lives and murder innocents?
You mean like drug laws do?
Countries without drug laws have no more drugs.
People taking shortcuts to buy and sell MJ have long prison times.
Making the drug illegal has produced and underground econimy with literally hundreds of millions of dollars of rewards for criminals.
Once again my central argument:
More people will die of french fries and it's related diseases in one week then will die in several years through excessive marijuana intake. MJ is really a stupid thing to focus on.
MJ at its worst compared to 188,000 obesity related deaths. How can the community seriously fear MJ w a FAT Food Stand on every corner.
Democrats will hate this because it came from Trump. Let’s see how many Dems oppose it.
You should be more informed.
Check the poll results and get back to us with your ridiculous assertion.
I hope he does it simply to drive the left mad. Because I am certain they would rather have it be illegal, rather than say, I was wrong about this guy. I can't wait to see how they twist it if he actually does it.
100% of Democrats voted yes...
Every single time someone says something like this, they do it without checking out the poll results.
When I talk specifically of the left, I mean heavily in the socialist camp. If I meant democrats, I would have said democrats.
“Democrats” is more specific than “the left”.
I wouldn't put 1/3 of democrats in the same camp as a socialist. Another 1/3 couldn't even tell you what a socialist is.
In just saying the “the left” does not mean “socialist” any more than “the right” means “white nationalist”.
Actually I think left meaning socialist is incredibly more accurate than a specific race on the right. Blacks can be conservative.
Yeahhhhh... I didn’t say “white people” and you missed the point.
Well I would argue that no Asians are going to be for the white nationalists, really only white people for that train. The point is stupid because a leftist can be a nationalist, but is always a socialist.
......What? The point is that “the left” is a super broad term. I don’t know why you are talking about Asians not wanting to be white nationalists.
Many democrats are not dumb enough to think that the government should be in control of the GDP. A core aspect to the left is that the government should be about 50% or more. I don't feel it is fair to lump good hearted people with socialists. If I meant democrats, I would have specifically said them.
I agree, but don't believe. He's said this before he was elected, but every action his administration has taken says the exact opposite
Let me guess, Willie Nelson asked him to do it. Maybe we can get Sanjay Gupta and Dr Oz to ask him to fix healthcare.
Y u opposed?
Yes, I do.