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polster2 June 7th, 2018 7:39pm

Insurance companies in many states across the US are raising health insurance premiums due to Trump and the Republicans' repeal of the individual mandate and their expansion of health plans that are exempt from Obamacare regulations. Thoughts?

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jmw7477 Indiana
06/08/18 4:42 pm

We haven’t had insurance in about 25 years. We haven’t been able to afford it. We did try ACA for a few months about 3 years ago. It covered nothing and applied everything to the $13,000 deductible. We’re two fairly healthy adults with no kids. So I learn home remedies and we only go when we absolutely have to.

06/08/18 1:42 pm

Not mine

thelowend imitation is flattery
06/08/18 9:37 am

yeah didn’t see that coming๐Ÿ™„

06/08/18 8:54 am

Don’t let the efficacy of Universal Healthcare hit you in @ss.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 9:28 am

Suppressed ... you failed with ObamaDoesntCare and you will fail again with the pathetic push for universal healthcare. The government has NO business in healthcare. The government is inept and will only ruin it. How’s that VA healthcare working? Yep, the president had to just bail it out again, allowing vets to get real care more often because the VA is a pathetic government failure.

We need the government to get out of healthcare completely. The market will solve the mess regressive leftists have made!

polster2 US
06/08/18 5:55 am

LOL. Just wait until you have a serious medical problem.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 10:04 am

Polster ... should free citizens be forced to buy a product?

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/08/18 11:08 am

Hahahahahahha i do not have to wait i already have serious medical problems, doesn't change the fact that insurance is a scam.

Don't take risks you can't pay for don't buy things you can't pay for.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/08/18 11:09 am

The individual mandate is unconstitutional, can't believe you would side but something unconstitutional just because it might be cheaper in the short run.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 11:12 am

Robert ... to be clear, I assume that you’re talking to Polster as I do not support MrO’s lie about the individual mandate. I do not in any way support government intrusion into my healthcare. They mess up everything they touch, and ObamaDoesntCare is a perfect example of how MrO screwed up healthcare.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/08/18 11:14 am

@think i thought we were post talkingbat polster

polster2 US
06/08/18 11:18 am

The Supreme Court actually upheld the constitutionality of the individual mandate.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/08/18 11:25 am

Yes and it was a bad ruling. Do you think the government has the right to force you to use a service?

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/08/18 11:29 am

5:4 rulling. Not a solid case to base an opioion on.

polster2 US
06/08/18 11:36 am

Yeah, the Supreme Court said so. Whether you feel that the ruling is “bad” or not is irrelevant. The Supreme Court has the power of judicial review.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/08/18 12:30 pm

I don't believe you have read the case.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 12:47 pm

Polster ... did MrO lie and say that the fascist mandate was not a tax and then did the flawed Supreme Court ruling expose the fact that MrO dishonestly argued to the Court that it was a tax?

As anything but a tax it is unconstitutional. As a tax, it is the first time in our country’s history that the government was allowed to force free citizens to purchase a product or pay an onerous tax. This is PRECISELY the type of capricious and punitive usury that we fought to free ourselves from in the Revolutionary War!

Thankfully, since we kicked the failed former president, MrO, to the curb, we have at least freed citizens from that part of the overreaching monstrosity that is ObamaDoesntCare!

polster2 US
06/08/18 12:48 pm

The Supreme Court upheld the mandate. You need to get over it.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 12:51 pm

Polster ... and then the Congress corrected the flawed Supreme Court decision, didn’t they!!!

The folks who need to do the “getting over” are you mindless leftists who simply regurgitate the lies of MrO. Did MrO lie when he told us that the individual mandate was NOT a tax as he then argued it was a tax to the Supreme Court? You’re right, that’s one more of the MANY MrO lies that we no longer have to deal with as his legacy of lies is being dismantled.

Ah, the freedom is sweet!

polster2 US
06/08/18 1:02 pm

LOL. You just can’t handle the fact that the Supreme Court upheld the mandate, can you?

Think Lovin Life
06/09/18 10:32 am

Polster ... yes, that’s correct! I also can’t accept the seven Democrat partisan jurists on the Supreme Court who denied Dred Scott his constitutionally protected rights!

Do you support the Supreme Court’s Dred Scott decision?

polster2 US
06/09/18 1:09 pm

No, I don’t support that decision. That is unrelated to the discussion we’re having. How did a conservative majority on the Supreme Court uphold the individual mandate’s constitutionality?

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/09/18 1:11 pm

Under tax law, the sane way we restricted the 2nd amendment

Think Lovin Life
06/09/18 2:22 pm

Polster ... you justified the individual mandate, not on the basis of its constitutionality, but on the fallible decision of the Supreme Court. Based on that logic, Mr Scott and all blacks don’t deserve liberty, thank you Democrat party!

Think Lovin Life
06/09/18 2:23 pm

Robert ... did MrO lie when he said that the individual mandate wasn’t a tax?

lcamino Florida and Georgia
06/12/18 8:23 pm

The Supreme Court upheld it as a tax.

Think Lovin Life
06/12/18 8:31 pm

LC ... the Supreme Court also said that a free black man, Dred Scott, did not deserve to be treated like a human. Did they get either the Dred Scott decision or the Lied Tax from ObamaDoesntCare correct?

06/07/18 2:18 pm

Another biased question.

polster2 US
06/07/18 2:36 pm

Where’s the bias? The GOP made Obamacare plans more expensive.

Think Lovin Life
06/07/18 5:33 pm

MSTT ... this is all Polster’s got!

polster2 US
06/08/18 4:36 am

Think...Are you saying that the GOP didn’t make premiums more expensive?

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 5:33 am

Polster ... I’m saying that you decapitating the totalitarian government mandated demand to purchase insurance that citizens are free to participate or not participate, and for those who choose not to participate, the price of the horrible ObamaDoesntCare services goes to zero!

kscott516 Masks fail
06/07/18 2:11 pm

Great excuse to raise rates!

Texas1 did not proofread
06/07/18 1:49 pm

Too bad so sad, couldn’t afford it anyways.

jlong105 Indiana
06/07/18 1:27 pm

If it gets too expensive people NOW don’t have to buy it. Love the freedom of choice. They don’t sell enough and they will lower their prices. Under Obamacare this wasn’t possible.

06/07/18 1:08 pm

They have been going up every year since Obamacare was put in place.

06/07/18 3:25 pm

““Since the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, rates on the individual market in Maryland have risen by an outrageous and unsustainable 166 percent, and are set to increase by over 200 percent if we do not take action. “

Guess you didn’t even read your link huh.

polster2 US
06/07/18 3:27 pm

So the way to reduce premiums is to incentivize young people to buy insurance even less?

06/07/18 3:36 pm

Do you think the government guaranteeing insurance companies that we have to pay whatever they charge makes it decrease? Obviously not.
If they want people to buy their insurance they should have to compete with each other which will lower prices or they will fail.

polster2 US
06/07/18 3:36 pm

They already do. Young people don’t want to buy coverage.

06/07/18 3:59 pm

Stoney, they were going up every year before the ACA....

Think Lovin Life
06/07/18 5:35 pm

Polster ... “incentivize” is leftist speak for government force.

commonman1 Peace
06/07/18 6:02 pm

Damn you mean other people are not going to paying for your insurance. OUTRAGEOUS!!!

polster2 US
06/08/18 4:37 am

Think...Should taxes exist?

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 5:31 am

Polster ... the government should collect taxes from all citizens proportionally to pay for constitutionally mandated items like an adequate defense of the nation, not to pay for the mentally ill to mutilate their bodies and not for lazy leftists to have homes and smartphones.

The government must also never compel citizens to participate in commerce. The government as no business telling anyone what type of insurance they must buy and certainly no business penalizing individuals who choose not to buy their corruptly mandated products!

Given that you love socialist programs, why don’t you philanthropically provide the funding for those programs for everyone?

06/08/18 5:40 am

Well said, think.

06/08/18 8:56 am

Healthcare premiums have been skyrocketing for decades...which was exactly the impetus for the ACA. It’s just that the Congress sold out to the insurance companies and then Trump did the rest.

But high premiums and profits at the expense of the people is exactly what Trump wants.

06/08/18 9:06 am

Suppressed, it's what most republicans want. Otherwise they would be for single payer or at least a public option. That is the only way to slow down or cut the skyrocketing prices...

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 9:16 am

Suppressed ... you’re an idiot if you think that’s what MrT wants. If we’re going to focus on wants, I’m amazed that you left out MrO’s wants. It was MrO who wanted to crush the best healthcare system, which he did. MrO wanted to force us into a single payer government second class care. He almost achieved that horrible objective. Costs for care have risen over the years, but not nearly as abruptly as after MrO’s albatross when passes in the dark of night in a mafia style that only Democrats could be proud of.

Thankfully, MrT has broken the chains of ObamaDoesntCare.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 9:21 am

DJ ... I can’t speak for Republicans, but I want the government out of my healthcare completely. I’ve lived all over the world, in several countries with regressive government healthcare. Not one of my local colleagues every had anything positive to say about their government healthcare, the vast majority who can afford it purchase personal healthcare so as to be able to avoid the second class care.

We have our own failed government healthcare — the model for ObamaDoesntCare — the VA healthcare, which is a disgusting failure. It is Democrats who want to build the government albatross to force citizens into their box and eliminate freedom.

polster2 US
06/08/18 11:19 am

Think...Have you ever heard of the Commerce Clause?

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 12:54 pm

Polster ... of course I have. Please quote the specific element of the Commerce Claise that allows the fascist government to compel citizens to participate in commerce.

I’ll wait right here!

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 12:59 pm

Polster ... as I know you so well, I’m confident that you will attempt again to cloud the very clear issue that you just can’t seem to get past. The Commerce Clause is ... Article I, Section 8, Clause 3, and it reads:

“[The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

Again, please explain how this Clause grants the enumerated power to the federal government to compel an individual citizen to buy a product.

I’ll be right here!


Think Lovin Life
06/09/18 10:33 am

Polster ... did you get “lost” yet again on your way back here to defend your lies?

polster2 US
06/09/18 1:08 pm

Did you forget that the Supreme Court upheld the individual mandate?

Think Lovin Life
06/09/18 1:12 pm

Polster ... there you go again. We know how this ends, you post lies and then run away.

The Supreme Court exposed MrO in his lie. He said that the individual mandate wasn’t a tax. Then when his corrupt lawyers argued the point in front of the Supreme Court, they admitted that it was a tax.

I am also still waiting for the explanation of your embrace of the corrupt Democrat-infested Supreme Court and their hateful decision on Dred Scott.

polster2 US
06/09/18 1:17 pm

So why did Roberts, appointed by Republican president George W. Bush, uphold the individual mandate?

Think Lovin Life
06/09/18 2:20 pm

Polster ... why do you support the seven demented Democrats who voted to oppress Mr Dred Scott?

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 10:05 am

Polster ... it’s curious that you were never concerned about the soaring costs of healthcare caused by ObamaDoesntCare, but now you are ... hmmm.

polster2 US
06/08/18 11:36 am

The costs were rising faster before the Affordable Care Act was signed into law.

Think Lovin Life
06/08/18 9:14 pm

Polster ... that’s simply not true.