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ctskapski June 3rd, 2018 4:42am

Centrists follow an ideology of (either total or general) compromise as a rule

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TheUbermensch
06/06/18 5:36 am

Centrist viewpoints are usually just a compromise of republican and democrat however centrists still fight for their beliefs

NYevo NY
06/04/18 5:03 am

Having a different, more moderate point of view that doesn’t put you squarely on the far right, or left just means that you have a different opinion

ctskapski x
06/04/18 5:06 am

Are you staying that would be a centrist viewpoint, or that it would not?

NYevo NY
06/04/18 5:15 am

I don’t think compromise is necessarily a centrist thing. You may just believe something that falls somewhere in the middle.

TheMadScientist the mad laboratory
06/03/18 10:03 am

So ...it’s either “kill all humans” or “force all humans to live through any and everything” ...and any middle ground is compromise?

No. Poor framing of an argument does not mean people who don’t buy it are compromising. It might mean they are playing by Aristotle’s Golden Mean. At best, they see something you don’t.
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ctskapski x
06/03/18 10:51 am

I'm not sure what you mean by "you."

TheMadScientist the mad laboratory
06/03/18 12:03 pm

“You” is a second person, singular pronoun in this case, it references any entity making the argument represented by the affirmative in your inquiry. Obviously, you’re polling an argument and not setting that argument forth as your opinion. If it were your opinion, “you” would mean you. If it is Joe’s opinion, then “you” means Joe.

ctskapski x
06/03/18 12:28 pm

You mean to say that you are not speaking to anyone directly?

phalnx Ohio
06/03/18 7:56 am

It's not an ideology, per se...just a realization that we all have to live together, there are many opinions and ways to live, and no one person or party has all the answers.

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GeezerGolf Show us your papers
06/03/18 7:45 am

Some classical liberal quipped:
“An ideology is an impediment to thinking, a comfort to lazy people.”

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ctskapski x
06/03/18 10:49 am

I see merit in the claim.

ctskapski x
06/03/18 10:49 am

But I don't know if that answered the question.

GeezerGolf Show us your papers
06/03/18 12:16 pm

If they are following an ideology and not thinking, what difference does it make?

PeaceKeepaGirl advance democracy
06/03/18 6:07 am

No, many do but certainly not all. Some either have mixed liberal and conservative beliefs or simply feel that "middle-path" policies are the best way forward.

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Domino3 Abolish the ATF
06/03/18 4:29 am

No that’s stupid. You can be a centrist simply because you have certain views on each side of the spectrum and stand for them strongly. I️t doesn’t have to be about compromise.

(I’m not a centrist) but as an example I’m 100% pro gay, go for I️t do what you do, and I’m as far right on guns as you can get, I️ don’t think there should be any restrictions.

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ctskapski x
06/03/18 10:48 am

This was my understanding, but it seems this is widely considered not to be the case.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
06/02/18 10:16 pm

Yes. It's annoying. You don't compromise with injustice.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
06/03/18 5:04 am

What's more annoying is the urge to always side. The world isn't black and white.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
06/03/18 5:46 am

Of course not, but centrism as an ideology isn't the same thing as not taking a hardline stance on all issues.

omniku dot com
06/03/18 7:24 am

Disagree, Doc. There is a tremendous difference between the principle of compromise and the compromise of principles.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
06/03/18 8:07 am

No there isn't. When faced with injustice, compromise should not be pursued. If we find something palatable to both sides, one side will still be oppressed.

ctskapski x
06/03/18 10:47 am

I've considered myself a centrist.
I do take Hardline stances on issues, it just doesn't follow one "sides" lines or not.
But it has come to my attention that this is not centrism? I'm unsure.

TheUbermensch
06/06/18 5:37 am

I am a centrist who does not always compromise

TheUbermensch
06/06/18 5:38 am

It's mostly about understanding both sides have stuff to offer and not being so partisan.

omniku dot com
06/06/18 3:47 pm

Doc - We would have to get into specifics, but not everyone who disagrees with you is a mortal enemy. If everyone took that approach civilization would crumble.

TheUbermensch
06/06/18 3:49 pm

Polarization is becoming more and more of an issue, be part of the solutions not problem

TheUbermensch
06/06/18 3:50 pm

The anti centrist message is just a way to say your on my team or the enemies team.

Kamden popular revolt
06/02/18 10:14 pm

Yeah they stand for only compromise and are therefore pawns

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ctskapski x
06/02/18 11:24 pm

Then a person who agrees with neither side in particular is not centrist?

ctskapski x
06/02/18 9:43 pm

I disagree, but I may be mistaken (if so, I guess I oughtn't call myself a centrist anymore.)

TheUbermensch
06/06/18 5:39 am

That's not what a centrist is. A centrist is a vague term which means you aren't right or left.