Did the people on the right, forget Kathy Griffin was fired from CNN, plus canceled shows, because they were such snowflakes and insisting on it?
Both sides need to calm the F down.
Comparing someone to a Planet of the Apes character is a bit different than calling for someone’s head to be severed.
Racism is never something to make light of! It’s the same.
Kindly explain to us how offensive jokes are equivalent to advocating for someone to be assassinated.
Next you’ll be comparing “All In The Family” to 9/11.
Glux- I’m sorry but what Rosanne tweeted was pure racist crap! It wasn’t a joke. Now do I think she should have been fired, no! It was handled wrong by ABC! Just like Kathy Griffin’s firing was handled badly. I’m not being tribal here, you are.
Alright @gluxford1, what about Ted nugent talking about killing Obama in 2012 and in the recent election sharing an altered video of Bernie shooting Hillary with the caption "I got your gun control right here bitch."
The right was pretty quite. Infact, Trump actually paraded him around the white house and took photos with him.
“Glux- I’m sorry but what Rosanne tweeted was pure racist crap! It wasn’t a joke. Now do I think she should have been fired, no! It was handled wrong by ABC! Just like Kathy Griffin’s firing was handled badly. I’m not being tribal here, you are”
1. Yes, it was a joke. Some jokes are racist.
2. Kindly explain how pointing out that making a racist joke isn’t the same as advocating for murderer makes me “tribal”.
“Alright @gluxford1, what about Ted nugent talking about killing Obama in 2012 and in the recent election sharing an altered video of Bernie shooting Hillary with the caption "I got your gun control right here b***h."
It was wrong and disgusting.
Glux- what Rosanne said was totally racist, and if you can’t see that, I’m kinda stunned!
Glux- blatant, racism’s just as bad as a severed head joke!! Absolutely
You are missing the point. The question here isn’t if what Roseanne said was racist or not (it is). The question (and you) are trying to assert the claim that making a racist joke is equivalent to calling for someone’s beheading, and that’s where I take issue.
I think it’s the same kind of despicable behavior
“Glux- blatant, racism’s just as bad as a severed head joke!! Absolutely!”
Kathy Griffin wasn’t joking. Roseanne was. There’s a difference. Nobody in their right minds finds severed heads funny. Do you and Kathy watch ISIS execution videos for kicks too? If you can’t tell the difference between ethnic jokes and advocating fit murder, then you are beyond help.
“I think it’s the same kind of despicable behavior.”
I don’t. All In The Family isn’t on the same level as ISIS recruitment magazines, no matter how much you want to make that claim.
“Dear White People” is a pretty bigoted comedy show, but you don’t see me calling for its cancellation or comparing it to murder advocacy. This is the problem with the left today: like true authoritarians, they want to purge comedy of everything and anything mildly controversial because they want to control what people are allowed laugh at and what jokes they can and can’t be exposed to. It’s shameful.
Glux- Kathy Griffin was joking, you cannot have it both ways, why are you excusing the right, for the same behavior of the left, pure tribalism
“Glux- Kathy Griffin was joking”
No, she wasn’t.
“You cannot have it both ways, why are you excusing the right, for the same behavior of the left, pure tribalism.”
Are you blind? Did you not see me condemn Ted Nugent for his comments about Obama earlier in this thread? The only one being tribal here is you. Explain why you and Kathy Griffin think cutting someone’s head off is a funny joke.
She was! She is a COMEDIAN she was joking! Glux, why can I admit, when I’m being tribal and you cannot?
Glux- I called Griffin’s joke despicable didn’t I?
You’re excusing it by calling it a “joke”. Do you call ISIS execution videos jokes too? Nobody in their right minds finds the act of beheading someone funny and Kathy Griffin knows that, so clearly it wasn’t a joke.
“She was! She is a COMEDIAN she was joking!”
Quit making excuses for her. Even comedians know that beheading someone isn’t funny.
Glux- as I said before, Kathy Griffin was wrong to be fired and was Roseanne, I am being consistent, you are not, making one worse than the other.
And you called what Rosanne said a joke? Either they are both jokes or they are not. Period
“Glux, why can I admit, when I’m being tribal and you cannot?”
You can’t admit that you’re being tribal. This conversation has made that pretty evident. I condemned Ted Nugent for his violent comments about Obama, which points to my lack of tribalism. Meanwhile, you’re making excuses for Kathy Griffin by saying “But It Was A Joke!! 😫” and “But She’s A Comedian!! 😫”. You’re clearly the tribalist here.
“You are making one worse than the other.”
Yes, I am because one IS worse than the other. Jokes about someone’s appearance, stereotypes, and ethnicity have been commonplace and funny for decades. Holding up a severed head is just plain disturbing. Evidently you’re not capable of seeing the difference between a public execution and movies like Borat.
“Either they are both jokes or they are not. Period.”
Glux- well we will agree to disagree here.
Fine by me. ✌🏻
One had a fake severed head of the POTUS and one compared someone to a movie character. Yeah, they are exactly the same. 🙄
Racism is never funny, but I guess in Trump’s America it’s now acceptable.
Zim ... this isn’t a “Trump America” thing, it’s an “Obama Hollywood” thing!
Doesn’t matter racism is never acceptable
Zim ... your hoisting a false strawman. Who said racism was acceptable?
Not at all, to dismiss what Rosanne tweeted, is no straw man.
Zim ... is calling Mr Trump “an orangutan” racist? Is it any more or less offensive than the “Planet of the Apes”?
As an aside, what’s ironic is that most leftists blindly call the vulgar Ms Barr’s comments “racist” because they’re told to do so, but what they’re missing is that in the Planet of the Apes, the apes were the intelligent ones. It seems that leftists can’t accept a complement ... right?
Calling Trump an orangutan is not racism, come on you know that calling African Americans apes has been a standard racist tactic for 100’s of years. Let’s not pretend here Think! But like I have said, I do not think Rosanne should have been fired, an episode on racism would have been much more effective with an apology from her.
I disagree with your comments below saying you don't think either should have been fired. I think networks/sponsors have every right to decide whether someone represents their values, etc. I'm ok with both being fired. My issue stems from the same company (Disney) being ok with Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Keith Olbermann, and allowing them time to apologize for things they've said and keeping them employed, then firing Roseanne within a few hours. That shows where their allegiances lie, and their inconsistency. The funny part is that Roseanne is no conservative, she just had the audacity to support the president. Funny how the media is bending over backwards to portray her as a conservative and link what she said to every conservative. So transparent.
I do think portraying the bloody beheading of a President is worse than an insensitive joke, so I also disagree with you there.
Well I’ll say this, Whoopi, Keith, and Joy are commentators there shows are about that, if that were so Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity and FOx and Friends cast, shouldn’t have jobs either. And again as I said below racism cannot be tolerated! So I stand by that.
And you know I disagree with Rosanne being fired as well.
No one on Fox ever sent out multiple tweets referring to Obama and every one of his supporters "fucking nazi racists" as Olbermann has done. Or said anything as inflammatory as Joy Behar does on a daily basis.
Kelly I disagree Hannity does it on a daily bases, the things he said about Hillary and Obama and Michelle were outrageous! Laura Ingram just attacked David Hogge. It’s a two way street.
I watch and listen to Hannity all the time. I've never heard him attack anyone on anything other than the issues. Can you give me an example?
Oh Kelly so many! He attacked Michael Obama on what she wears, and then says nobody should attack Melina , fueled the birther movement( which is racist) Seth rich and the conspiracy theories, said it was ok to use violence against liberals, said Obama was not his President, said Hillary might be part of a slavery ring, called the LGBT community NAMBLA, and child rapists. If you don’t believe me google it, he is truly horrible!
Like I said, I listen to him pretty much every day. In fact I'm listening right now. I've never heard him say any of those things, aside from the Seth Rich thing (which I still believe he was murdered by Hillary's people). Try listening sometime, instead of taking someone else's word for it.
I have listened to him, and honestly think he is one of the main causes for the divisions in America, I think he’s absolutely horrible human being!
Same way I feel about Rachel Maddow and many others. I think he's very measured and thorough.
Rachel Maddow is a divider as well. It’s time we stop listening to these kind of people, and start unifying our country again! We are way too tribal!
The thing is, if the mainstream news was unbiased, there would be no need for a Hannity.
Most of the things I've seen you say about Trump could've come straight out of Maddow's mouth, so for you to say these people are dividing the country is really rich.
Come Kelly truth be told, you are not uniting either.
Zim ... while I’m no fan of Mr Hannity, to suggest that he makes comments like Mr Olbermann on a daily basis ought to be very easy for you to find and share the tape, please enlighten us!
You make false moral equivalences and you will be challenged!
I have no clue on what Kieth Oberman says, I thought he was fired from MSNBC like years ago.
I never claimed to be uniting. In fact, I would never want to unite with most of the liberals on this app.
Olbermann was fired. During Bush's term?
Mr Olbermann was rehired for more money and an expanded scope and he continues unchanged.
Bill Maher called MrT an orangutan, why wasn’t he fired?
Think- the real question is, why do you want people fired?
Olbermann's been fired several times, always ends up thing off the deep end, but somehow keeps being given more chances.
But that’s different because....argle-bargle-gobbledy hypocrite.
Joy behar, joy Reid....Keith Olbermann, Whoopi, that lady that just called Ivanka the C-Bomb,
Sean Hannity, group at Fox and Friend, Steve Miller, Ted Nugent, Laura Ingrum, Donald Trump, should I go on?
Okay, I've watchedany of those shows. I've never seen blatant racism in what I've watched but I'm sure there are instances. Again...my point is both sides ...
Fired??? She only did New Years with Anderson pooper
I didn’t realize there are degrees to being fired?
It's interesting too that when Griffin was fired liberals weren't rushing to defend her and calling hypocrisy like conservatives are doing with roseanne.
That’s very true!
Did you see her on the view?
I've never seen the view
It’s liberals celebrating liberals in a talk show format.
If the right were snowflakes, so were the left regarding Roseanne. There’s snowflakes on both sides but there is also legitimate outrage. Those angry at Roseanne and Gifford I wouldn’t call snowflakes.
To answer your question, yes, it seems like they did. Personally, I’d be happy with no one being boycotted or punished for speech.
Xxx- we agree again my friend, I don’t think either should have been canned!
She got everything back and the thing she got fired from was a once a year event.
Well she’s got her sponsorships etc. whereas they are talking about blacklisting Roseanne for life.
I’m sure Roseanne will be ok too.
She was shunned by her peers.
She was put on a TSA watch list.
She had live bookings cancelled.
TSA watch list would happen with anyone, but bookings were cancelled for what, 6 months max. She’s back already, lost her once a year New Years show which no one watched anyway, hardly the same. I wonder where Jim Carrey is
She held the cut off head of the president! Talk about a feckless cunt.
Well What Rosanne tweeted wasn’t any better, I was against both of them being fired BTW
I don't know why anyone is mad at her anyways, she's not even funny.
They are all skanks.
When did you think the tag “snowflake” were conservatives. Originally, as I recall, it was the moniker applied to the children crying like babies after Hillary lost. Remember “crying Circles”, “Safe zones”, bringing in dogs and goats to reduce the impact to those children. Were you ever in a crying circle?
I didn’t know anyone owns words?
Zimmy, like most Lefties you can’t seem to differentiate which is worse between “Krazy Kathy’s” homicidal threatening act & a crude improper racist statement from “Raunchy Roseanne”, if you don’t know the difference or care, then your as soft in the head as pound of wet leather🤤❗️
Zim, Let me clarify for ya, one says we want you dead☠️ Theotyer says, I want to hurt your feelings & make you cry😢 You got it now❓
Shippy- I don’t see the difference no racism is no joking matter and is appalling, I’m surprised you see a difference?
Don’t see the difference
Zimmy, I like you, but this saddens & concerns me, that you & other DemLibLeftists 🤔, don’t see a difference & you think they are both on an equal moral equivalency❓🤨Sooooo, if I call you a white cracker Ahole 🤬 &hurt your😱feelings, or I tell you I want to kill you by cutting off your head😱, & they’re both the same😳❓Really❓
Sorry Shippy racism is as bad as a severed head.
Sorry for you Zimmy. So when you see a monkey you see a black person. They are not the same you know.
Zimmy, NO IT IS NOT‼️ To disrespect & take a person’s dignity, is a horrible & unacceptable thing😥, but to unjustly threaten to kill or take another person’s life, is a crime against😱God & Humanity