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MrsCrayonWax May 29th, 2018 5:57pm

Roseanne has been canceled following controversial tweet.

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ladyniner81 I hate people
05/30/18 3:30 pm

She's an idiot for saying that when she's working for Disney. Disney owns ABC

jmw7477 Indiana
05/30/18 5:43 am

People need to quit being so soft. One person on a show said something stupid. She apologized. Move on. Don’t cancel the show. If Trump can say the things has a still become president, a comedian should get to keep a TV show.

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CrzyChica
05/29/18 6:14 pm

There are actually people on this thread trying to say that what Rosanne tweeted was not racist.🙄 Pardon me while I roll my eyes. Sigh:

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 6:39 pm

Watch yourself! You’ll be rolling so far back they’ll pop out! 😛

CrzyChica
05/29/18 6:51 pm

I’m amazed they haven’t yet. They’ll roll all the way back to the pre-Civil Rights era, or the time of slavery. SOH sometimes makes me worry about humanity.

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 8:40 pm

Agree wholeheartedly

ladyniner81 I hate people
05/30/18 3:25 pm

Mine rolled all the way back to the Jurassic era 😛

CrackerJack South Park
05/29/18 3:12 pm

Look how long it took Paula Deen to bounce back. She's toast.

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ladyniner81 I hate people
05/30/18 3:27 pm

What was funny was one of the stores near me put all of her cookware on clearance when that stuff came out. Someone else asked a salesperson about that and they said it was a coincidence. They still sell it

rons screw politicians
05/29/18 2:43 pm

They were looking for an excuse.

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 2:46 pm

You think? Why sign it on to begin with? It was controversial at the beginning. I think she wanted out of her contract.

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 4:18 pm

Why was the show controversial? You had one episode about Trump and the deplorables and that’s it. The rest of the weeks dealt with unemployment, kids living at home, elder care, pain pills - all real people problems.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 4:25 pm

It was billed that way. The whole show was based around being a “conservative” show to counter all others except it really wasn’t. So when I say controversial, it should have never made it to air if this was a liberal hit job to take it out. Roseanne said a dumb thing and the network acted in what they perceived was their best interest and that was their bottom line.

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 6:11 pm

And yet same network didn’t fire Jimmy Kimmel when he was in blackface or insulted Melania or Joy Behar for saying Catholics have mental issues (Mike Pence too).

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 6:14 pm

It’s only controversial when a conservative says something.
I’m not defending her but there is a pattern here.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 6:37 pm

I understand that but she’s not even really a conservative. She’s more libertarian. And all of these situations should be treated the same way. Kathy griffin was run out of town. I don’t know that destroying careers is always the right move. I don’t know the answer but we’ve become so polarized that I don’t think anyone can see straight at this point.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 6:38 pm

And to be fair, the instances you noted were most likely approved from up top before it even got the green light below. Roseanne acted of her own accord on Twitter, unfiltered.

rons screw politicians
05/30/18 4:08 am

She posted a racist tweet and got a lot of people fired. You would think using monkeys to describe a black person would never happen. Twitter has been the downfall of many. Ego and stupidity drives a tweet.

Zach21 California
05/29/18 1:30 pm

It was a stupid tweet, she apologized, and still got her show cancelled by ABC. It’s a private organization, they can fire her.

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Zach21 California
05/29/18 1:32 pm

I’m against ABC cancelling the show for the sole reason that all the cast members got punished for a couple tweets by someone else.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
05/29/18 1:54 pm

ABC had every right to fire her and her tweet was awful, although I hate Valerie Jarrett. I feel sorry for all the people now out of a job.

Twitter is a dangerous place. I don’t even have a Twitter Page because it’s just a cesspool.

Zfilakas Eleftheria i Thanatos
05/29/18 12:48 pm

How no one saw this coming is beyond me. Roseann Barr is a fucking nutjob.

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 1:05 pm

It’s almost like she did it on purpose.

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 12:43 pm

MS-13 gets a pass
Iran gets a pass
Hamas gets a pass
Obama's migrant cells get a pass
Joy Reid gets a pass
Joy Behar gets a pass
Jimmy Kimmel gets a pass
Stephen Colbert gets a pass
George Soros gets a pass
Roseanne? CANCELLED

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Axl752 NY
05/29/18 12:58 pm

What did Jimmy Kimmel do??

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 1:18 pm

Insulted Melania

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 1:19 pm

Ug, shall i point out how messed up identity politics is and how if you use it logic goes out the window?

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 1:56 pm

Oh and remember the rodeo clown (few years ago) who would wear a presidential mask at every rodeo every year- was fired when he wore Obama mask.

Axl752 NY
05/29/18 2:06 pm

LOL how does ms13 get a pass?

chickencookie America weeps
05/29/18 2:31 pm

They are soft kittens. Good people. Human beings.

Axl752 NY
05/29/18 3:23 pm

Who says they're good people exactly?

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 3:37 pm

I really dont think there are many, i kinda see it as the left and the right mis-communicating.

People keep trying to solve big problems the easy way without investing time in figuring out the issue.

When the ms-13 convo came up last time the right had said 'deport them' which is verifiable wrong. Alone with the left who were off on a tangent and just started screening racism.

People have to take into account that a minority of ms13 members are citizens. Deportation isnt an option.

mstt
05/29/18 12:40 pm

They need to cancel racist Kimmel also.

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Domino3 Abolish the ATF
05/29/18 12:37 pm

She’s an idiot for saying that. Surely she knew she would get fired

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 12:39 pm

I hate to get all flat earth here but...was this intentional maybe?

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
05/29/18 2:02 pm

Doubtful. But you never know. Maybe she regretted getting back into the business.

snagglepuss Story Time
05/29/18 12:05 pm

I’ve never been a Roseanne fan. She had a hit show but just couldn’t control that mouth. I’m not surprised. ABC has to take a stand to protect their bottom line.

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katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 12:26 pm

I’m wondering if another network will pick it up. It’s been the number one show almost since it came back.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 12:39 pm

I can’t imagine any network would risk losing money for this show.

snagglepuss Story Time
05/29/18 1:38 pm

Maybe after some time passes but not in the near future. They want hit shows not negative press.

xxxceo Still Deplorable
05/29/18 12:04 pm

“...if the Muslim brroherhood and planet of the apes had a baby”
Personally, I think that’s pretty funny, but she should’ve known better to say it. I agree with others that I feel bad for her cast and others working on her show. When you work with a team you need to think about them when you’re about to do something stupid.

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 12:24 pm

I think she got to be too big for her britches and thought she was beyond reproach.

xxxceo Still Deplorable
05/29/18 12:26 pm

Maybe, but she’s always been like that. This was the same chick who dressed up as hitler and put gingerbread men in an oven.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 12:39 pm

True. Perhaps she’s just nutty.

CrzyChica
05/29/18 6:04 pm

I find it funny that Roseanne Barr of all people thought that making fun of someone else in such a manner was a great idea. I could come up with any number of derogatory tweets about her. What a moron.🙄

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 6:42 pm

I debated this with my husband. Why would you possibly think this tweet wouldn’t a- get reaction (she knew it would) and b- think it would be glossed over by the network in this day and age?

CrzyChica
05/29/18 6:50 pm

Exactly. Agreed.

Laserbeam Crazy bird lady
05/29/18 11:34 am

She’s always been the biggest threat to her own career and those around her.

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 11:37 am

I’m imagining that her cast mates have put the kibosh on her.

cpaswr 864511320
05/29/18 12:13 pm

Some have. We haven’t heard from everyone.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 12:23 pm

Sara Gilbert slapped her ass on twitter and she was fired her agency.

UniversePlan Michigan
05/29/18 11:27 am

This user is currently being ignored

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orgblu10 Shamerica
05/29/18 11:19 am

Never watched her show, but it was pretty irresponsible of her to cost people their jobs by her own stupidity.

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swervin Maryland
05/29/18 11:16 am

Good. I never liked the show to begin with. And I always support a company’s right to do whatever they think it’s best for their business.

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katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 11:15 am

Damn, I really liked the show. Didn’t even watch it years ago. Why’d she have to do something so stupid? It had been renewed for another season already. I bet viewers will have something to say about it though. Stay tuned...

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lcamino Florida
05/29/18 12:10 pm

Me too. I liked the show, but I don’t know if what Roseann said can be forgiven and forgotten any time soon.

AdamStephens West Virginia
05/29/18 11:15 am

That's a lot of people out of a job because of one lunatic, overreaction.

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Kay41 the Midwest
05/29/18 11:13 am

If she doesn't reflect the values of the network, more power to them.

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missmorganmarie ...
05/29/18 11:07 am

has that been confirmed?

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wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 11:10 am

Oh yeah, the show is gone.

gow488 Wisconsin
05/29/18 11:07 am

That’s still a show?

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gow488 Wisconsin
05/29/18 11:07 am

I thought they stopped making episodes forever ago.

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 11:09 am

They brought it back, jeez gow lol

lcamino Florida
05/29/18 11:05 am

It’s really too bad for all the other people working on the show. And, for Valerie Jarret. No one should have their looks talked about that way. Roseann is a grown woman, she should know better.

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katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 11:24 am

You’re right. No one should. But lazysteelworker has no problem using racist words like ‘cracker’ in her comment below. I just read all the comments on the racist poll and come here to find a racist comment right off the bat.

lcamino Florida
05/29/18 12:07 pm

I agree Kat, those remarks by lazy do sound derogatory. It’s so petty for people to speak this way.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 12:09 pm

Hey katerina, if you're going to talk shit about someone, have the guts to tag them. You need an education on what racism and racist is, ignorance and stupidity is not an excuse.

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 12:18 pm

Or what, steelworker? You gonna call me a racist name, too? At least I have sense enough to not use a derogatory, RACIST term like ‘cracker’ to describe a white woman. And you do not. So, there’s that.

martyt02
05/29/18 12:22 pm

So @lazy, what is racist and racism.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 12:25 pm

Racism isn't subjective. You don't get to just say something is racist and it becomes so, no matter how badly you'd like everyone to agree with you.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 12:26 pm

And yes katerina, there's no doubt in my mind that you are also a crazy cracker. 🤣

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 12:29 pm

Do a little research and try some education yourself. Calling a white person a cracker is racist, whether you’d like it to be or not. And you’ve shown your true self, just like Roseanne.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 12:31 pm

I think you're just mad cause she used your tweet material 😂

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 12:34 pm

Not mine. Unlike you, I don’t talk that way about other people.

martyt02
05/29/18 12:34 pm

Lazy, racism is totally subjective!

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 12:40 pm

Maybe there needs to be a class or something. I could teach it. I realize that there has been a trend of labeling things as racist and about 50% of those aren't but I thought more people would have learned the difference by now.

martyt02
05/29/18 12:45 pm

(I think most people know)

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 12:48 pm

Here's your pop quiz then Marty, is calling someone a crazy cracker racist?

martyt02
05/29/18 1:01 pm

It depends: are you calling her a “cracker” to “put her down” because she is white (and you are not), or is it a term of endearment?

According to Webster, racism is “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race”

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 1:09 pm

So if it was the latter then it was not racist correct? Congratulations you passed.

Axl752 NY
05/29/18 11:03 am

Huge overreaction

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wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 11:03 am

Dont say racist shit when you work for disney.

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4Freedom1776
05/29/18 11:13 am

Correction. Don’t bash the left when working for Disney. The rights fair game.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 11:25 am

But was it really racist?

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 11:26 am

So racism is just bashing the left...

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 11:28 am

You’re kidding, right? Yes, it’s about as racist and derogatory as you can get. But she did apologize, although we now know her true opinion. I still don’t want to see the show canceled. 😕

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 11:30 am

I liked the show! I grew up watching Rosanne, not sad to see it go. Some things are more important.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 11:31 am

Its not racist. Comparing one man to an ape is not racist.

ezh2o Texas hill country
05/29/18 11:38 am

Can someone please tell me what was racist about RBs twitter post?

4Freedom1776
05/29/18 11:50 am

@weremonkeys77 no not in definition only in persecution

lcamino Florida
05/29/18 12:05 pm

I liked the show too, but there is no excuse for what Roseann said. Comparing another woman’s looks to an ape is awful behavior.

4Freedom1776
05/29/18 12:38 pm

Have you heard what the late night show hosts say about Sara sanders? No different.

ezh2o Texas hill country
05/29/18 1:07 pm

Still don't get the relation to why the MSM is saying it was a racist remark. Unless the MSM is saying blacks are apes. Sounds like they are the racist . . .

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 1:18 pm

Msm likes its hyperboly. Do not forget outrage sells in this country.

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 1:27 pm

Can you guys stop with the intellectual dishonesty? As if this is the first time you've heard a black person be referred to as an ape, resembling an ape, or ape like Behavior. I've heard that for as long as I can remember.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 1:30 pm

Ya so? Would the statement be racist if the man was white? No? The identity of the person is irrelevant.

Apes like activities is a thing. Describing an individual as ape like isnt racist. No dishonesty here mate.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 1:32 pm

You presuming this is a ravist statement is more racist then the statement itself.

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 1:47 pm

The statement wouldn't be racist if you referred to a white person as an ape because we both just agreed that black people have been referred to as Apes. We are literally talking about the person's identity

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 1:58 pm

No, you and your warped veiws of politics will not allow you too see anything normally. You look threw an identity politics lens.

If the statement chsbges meaning because of the individuals race, the statement isnt racist- you are.

4Freedom1776
05/29/18 2:49 pm

My dad called me a little chimp everyday growing up. I’m white and so it he.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 2:53 pm

Just because it is obvious the definition of racism is lost on you.

rac·ism

\ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\

noun

: poor treatment of or violence againstpeople because of their race: the belief that some races of peopleare better than others

Full Definition

1 : a belief that race is the primarydeterminant of human traits and capacities and that racial differencesproduce an inherent superiority of a particular race2 a : a doctrine or political programbased on the assumption of racismand designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system foundedon racism3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/29/18 2:53 pm

Thats great logic in a vaccuum.

lcamino Florida
05/29/18 2:55 pm

A stranger comparing a woman’s appearance to that of an ape is inexcusable. It is not ok.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 2:56 pm

Sure, i can agree that the statement is insensitive.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 3:12 pm

Just because I feel like being a smart-ass, we are in a vacuum approximately 1,013.25 millibars.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 3:39 pm

I find it a bit ironic that we are having a dispute about a statement comparing a man to a ape - and your username is we are all monkeys....

think4yourself Not a safe space
05/29/18 8:16 pm

Lol. You are right. Wearemonkeys is being beyond hypocritical.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 11:02 am

Can't say I'm surprised, they should have known she was a crazy cracker a decade ago when she pulled the anthem stunt lol

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LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 11:19 am

The funny part about this, I was just having a conversation with a coworker about it and explained to them how the other major networks like Fox are pretty much only jumping on the story to get this reaction. Fox don't give a crap about her tweets, they just sent that show off ABC so they don't have to compete with it lol

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 11:25 am

There’s no excuse for what Roseanne did, and there’s no excuse for your derogatory racist ‘cracker’ comment either.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 11:28 am

Baskins Robbins has 31 flavors and you chose Salty?

katerina13 where I should be
05/29/18 11:30 am

And you choose to be racist just like Roseanne

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 11:33 am

You wouldn't know racist if it were water and you fell out of a boat.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 3:41 pm

Racial slurs aren't inherently racist... sorry bro.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 4:11 pm

Simple put?

Racism is either one's believe that one race is Superior to others or Prejudice based on race. (Or both)

A racial slur is usually a slang word for a race with a negative annotation.

If the negative annotation has trueths to it it isnt prejudice.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 4:14 pm

And if it isn't prejudice then it would therefore not be racist?...

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 4:17 pm

Keyword in my first comment, inharently.
But yes.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 4:33 pm

If a racial slur isn't inherently racist then how is it a racial slur? Wouldn't that be a slur in general terms? Once it is determined to be of racist intent it would then be inherently racist would it not?

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/29/18 4:47 pm

No a slur is

an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.

Or (or both)

an act of speaking indistinctly so that sounds or words run into one another or a
tendency to speak in such a way.

An offensive term to describe ones race is just that, if the context of the terms usage is to insinuate superiority or is an ill-advised preconceived opinion of the individual based solely on race. - then yes its racist. If the criteria met to fit the definition of racist then I'm sorry to say it's not racist.

LazySteelworker USA
05/29/18 5:15 pm

How is it that you can define a "racial" slur as not being racist? (Your words, not inherently)
Using the word "racial" in this capacity is merely an adjective. Without the slur being racist, it would be incorrect to even describe it as such and would therefore simply be a slur.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
05/30/18 4:44 am

Its is a insinuation relating to race.