Do you think eating disorders should be characterized as mental illnesses?
I feel like eating disorders are more a symptom of a mental disorder, rather than standalone disorders. Depression, maybe. Anxiety for certain. (FYI- had anorexia as a teen, so I'm quite familiar)
Illnesses? Yes. Disorders or diseases? No.
Currently dealing with binge eating. Luckily seeing a therapist about it
As should all forms of body dysmorphia.
It's a mental illness. When the fashion industry, media, Hollywood and women's magazines use anorexic models and put out clothing that's either cut too small or are different sizes but call it the same size (you call this a large?) And magazines telling women they need to be skinny for hubby 🤮
Cosmopolitan is terrible. When they wrote that the reason why men cheated was because either she didn't "do it" right, or she was getting fat. But getting back to the point, when someone keeps telling you you're fat, and you're depressed, it's one. Look at Karen Carpenter. Her mother screwed her up.
What else would you call them?
Why wouldn’t they be?
In reading these comments , it just goes to show why our country is going to he11. It is always someone else’s fault or some issue or some disease. NO. It is your own fault. U made a decision. Take some damn personal responsibility for your CHOICES in life.
Not everything is a disease or mental health issue. Jeez.
Right. Depressed people choose to be sad. Nothing to do with their brain chemicals. BPD sufferers choose to experience intense emotions. Nothing to do with different brain physiology.
I do think that these people need to take it upon themselves change their life and cope though.
I kind of think the state of our country is more a result of political polarization and black and white thinking. Americans are separating themselves from others who disagree with them. Rather than being willing to listen, understand, and love others. We instead gather together with those who share our opinions and then we tear down people who have other beliefs.
But that’s completely off-topic...
I don’t think you know what an eating disorder is
I’ve delt with eating disorders before and I can 100% tell you it is not a choice
It is a mental illness, society plays a huge roll in how we view ourselves. People look up to those false idols in hollyweird if they were all of normal weight we wouldn't fee so pressured to be stick thin.
Yes. Anorexia, bulimias, and binge-eating have a mental component and need the help of the mental health professionals to be addressed. Individuals cannot overcome these conditions on their own.
Yes. Anorexia, bulimias
🤔 MFW overeating is a mental disorder but gender queerity isn’t.
Depends on which ones. Some yes, for sure.
If people have something like food allergies, it's not a mental disorder. There are things like anaorexia but more people have food allergies, as they are the most common eating disorder.
If it is determined that something is wrong with there brain or it has become an addiction
I’ve personally gone through recovery for anorexia (I am healthy now) but with my experience everything that was stopping me from eating was all in my head , I was at the point I convinced myself food was foreign and I shouldn’t eat it . I had to change my whole thought process (which was hard AF) worse thing I’ve ever been through but like I said at the end of the day it was all in my head.
Google Pica and tell me that eating dirt, hair, toy cars, and nails ISN’T a mental disorder. I dare you.
Or light bulbs
It isn't...little kids do that all the time :D
I’m talking about adults who know better and still do it. To the point of having to have surgical removals...
Ever seen those Jackass movies? Adults do that too.
They do it for money and fame not out of compulsion. You're conflating 2 very different examples
Its a choice
You choose to starve yourself, or throw up. It’s a symptom of poor choices
You choose to starve yourself or vomit because....work with me here. There is some sort of mental illness.
Schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline personality, etc. Food disorder is a choice or symptom associated with deeper mental illnesses
At the end of the day you decide you want to throw up or not eat, no gun is your head. You may be susceptible to making poor choices due to other mental problems.
The disorder causes you to choose to do those things, just like certain mental disorders cause you to attempt suicide or claw your own skin off.
I actually agree with carcano for once^
There is more to carcano than he lets on.
I thought they already were
It could be. There are a myriad of reasons.
Yes, because that’s what it is.
This is why the term “mental illness” is becoming completely meaningless.
Because you don't understand it?
Because those who don’t understand it (or those who do but are malicious) want to use it as a catch-all term.
So an anorexic who looks in the mirror and sees themselves as fat is what exactly?
Eating disorders are mental disorders, not even debatable at this point. You're just ignoring facts
That would be a specific example, on which the root issue is an inaccurate self-image rather than the eating behavior itself.
See: Body Dysmorphic Disorder
Anorexia is literally listed in the DSM V.
Is that supposed to be relevant to the question? Because it isn’t.
Liberty. The DSM comment suggests that eating disorders are a mental illness because a very large group of MD’s & PhD’s got together & designated it as such. That they didn’t consult you in the matter is what, fortuitous?
You’re suggesting that some is correct because it is done currently. That’s the fallacy of tradition and not a valid argument.
Essentially, you’re saying that it should be classified as a mental illness because it’s classified as a mental illness.
Makes no sense.
You’re going all in on this one, huh?
Not really, just responding to inquiries as they come.
On a serious note, are you a skeptic involving mental illness, a student of the field?
That wouldn’t be relevant to the discussion either. As you can see, the issue is more the ability to discuss a topic logically rather than the actual topic itself.
I was just curious is you had a fascination with the DSM. But ok.
Not really. Another user brought it up.
There’s a whole section in the dsm-5 on eating and feeding disorders
Again, that someone does something currently is wholly irrelevant to the question of whether that something *should* be done (fallacy of tradition).
Would should they be classified as?
Who says they have to be “classified” as anything?
Characterized. Mistype. Because that is what the question is asking.
Do you *think* and if not, what should it be?
I don’t really feel a need to characterize it as anything else.
What an odd conversation.
It certainly causes mental illness. It is a true disorder that many people cannot fix by themselves.
No. Just resist the temptation to buy shitty artificial "food" at the store, and just drive past (better yet, walk past) the McDonalds. Problem solved.
How will that help anorexia?
Anorexia is way less common than obesity. Also, Anorexia is a body image problem.
Agreed. There’s tons of fat people. Anorexia is way more complex than body image though.
So then you’re completely off topic, then? The question wasn’t about generalized bad eating habits...
Obesity isn't an eating disorder.
Yes. Like all Body Dysmorphic Disorders, like a man thinking he is a female and vice versa.
Transgenderism falls under gender dysphoria not body dysmorphia
Well, yeah. Because that's exactly what they are.
I don’t see why not.
Then they wouldn’t let fat people or skinny people own guns
I don't understand why they wouldn't be. They are psychological illnesses that happen to manifest in a physical way.
Yes. I have avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder and it’s tough
Aren’t they an impulse control disorder?
They’re categorized under Feeding and Eating Disorders. Impulse Control is a separate category, including disorders such as Oppositional Defiant Disorder and Pyromania. A vastly different flavor of disorders, if you ask me.
Eating disorders are about so much more than lack of self control. To attribute them to lack of self control is quite a gross misrepresentation. Quite often there’s past sexual abuse and other trauma that are major contributing factors. Eating disorders are complex mental health issues.
I disagree. You can't tell me that they can't determine what type of food and drink they buy at the grocery store. Eat a few bags of carrots instead of a few bags of potato chips, or drink a few glasses of water instead of a few Mountain Dew's.
Spirit, have you honestly never heard of anorexia?
You can't disagree with facts. You can ignore them though
Spirit, the question is not referring to unhealthy eating decisions. It’s talking about eating disorders.
Yeah, eating disorders, like obesity, is NOT a mental health issue.
Obesity isn’t an eating disorder.
Yes and I thought they were.
Yes, if not why not❓
Not all. I'd say binge eating disorder isn't, yes it's a self control issue but not every self control issue is a mental illness.
Anorexia is a mental illness, your self *image* is out of whack, everyone else sees you're starving yourself while you think you're too fat.
If your reality check bounces, that's mental illness.
Both excessive and absent self control are mental illness though. Excessive is anorexia, orthorexia. Absent is bulimia, binging, with or without purging... and purging isn't just vomit but also overuse of laxatives. Unfortunately my sister has had anorexia almost 10 years now and we've done everything trying to keep her alive. Though she has anorexia, she also engages in purging after "eating for show".... I think it's weird that excessive self control basically becomes absent self control, like she literally can't stop freaking out about every single gram and calorie...
Anorexia must be more than "excessive self control".
Wouldn't that rather involve keeping your weight ramrod straight at an ideal level?
When you can’t stop eating it’s a disorder. A normal person stops eating when they’re full. That’s not self control. Your body tells you not to eat more through pain. Someone with a disorder eats despite this pain.
During candy weeks, I eat until I barf. That’s a self control issue. I don’t hide candy in secret, eat then head to the “vomitorium” then return for more. I don’t starve myself to death for some idea of unattainable physical perfection. I don’t eat and eat and eat without thinking “I should probably stop”, on a constant basis and blowing up to 800 pounds. I have no self control a few weeks out of the year. The others are eating disorders. They affect your overall health, happiness and even life expectancy.
Especially morbid obesity, the kind that turns heads.
I don't see extreme obesity in people who appear to be over 70, they either have lost weight or are dead.
These disorders are mental illness.
People who worry about what someone else does should be considered a mental illness.
Yes, I tapped, while shoving munchkins in my mouth.
They're generally the result of some compulsion or another, so it makes sense.
Eating awhile box of Oreos then barfing it up is a self control issue. I could not stop eating the Oreos. NOT a mental disorder.
Self control isnt mental?
Call it self control or disciple, either way , same principle
Whats your definition of mental moldy?
IMHO , Mental disorders are dimensia or autism. Not eating like a pig and barfing it up. That is just being a fat lazy pig then feeling bad about it. Like a buyers remorse situation. Have some self control.
Some Malnourished incredibly skinny bulimic people truly believe they're fat
Neurological disorders are not the same as mental illness.......
Moldy self control is "controlled" by the mind. Therefore having low impulse control can be a mental disorder...
Binge eaters have the same dopamine reactions in their brains as heroin addicts. It’s definitely both physiological and psychological and not a straight question of “self-control.”