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Do you think eating disorders should be characterized as mental illnesses?

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desolatia Oregon
06/01/18 9:45 pm

I feel like eating disorders are more a symptom of a mental disorder, rather than standalone disorders. Depression, maybe. Anxiety for certain. (FYI- had anorexia as a teen, so I'm quite familiar)

prallen Property and order
05/30/18 8:24 pm

Illnesses? Yes. Disorders or diseases? No.

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Argonaut Yang 2020
05/30/18 8:16 pm

Currently dealing with binge eating. Luckily seeing a therapist about it

Dhawgg
05/30/18 2:05 pm

As should all forms of body dysmorphia.

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ladyniner81 I hate people
05/30/18 12:19 pm

It's a mental illness. When the fashion industry, media, Hollywood and women's magazines use anorexic models and put out clothing that's either cut too small or are different sizes but call it the same size (you call this a large?) And magazines telling women they need to be skinny for hubby 🤮

ladyniner81 I hate people
05/30/18 12:25 pm

Cosmopolitan is terrible. When they wrote that the reason why men cheated was because either she didn't "do it" right, or she was getting fat. But getting back to the point, when someone keeps telling you you're fat, and you're depressed, it's one. Look at Karen Carpenter. Her mother screwed her up.

Carcano Luke 10 19
05/29/18 9:06 pm

What else would you call them?

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Korosensei Maine
05/29/18 11:49 am

Why wouldn’t they be?

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moldypipes99 delightful analysis
05/29/18 11:33 am

In reading these comments , it just goes to show why our country is going to he11. It is always someone else’s fault or some issue or some disease. NO. It is your own fault. U made a decision. Take some damn personal responsibility for your CHOICES in life.

Not everything is a disease or mental health issue. Jeez.

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albyunderwater Yesterday
05/29/18 12:44 pm

Right. Depressed people choose to be sad. Nothing to do with their brain chemicals. BPD sufferers choose to experience intense emotions. Nothing to do with different brain physiology.

I do think that these people need to take it upon themselves change their life and cope though.

gonk In a psychology textbook
05/29/18 6:27 pm

I kind of think the state of our country is more a result of political polarization and black and white thinking. Americans are separating themselves from others who disagree with them. Rather than being willing to listen, understand, and love others. We instead gather together with those who share our opinions and then we tear down people who have other beliefs.

But that’s completely off-topic...

Carcano Luke 10 19
05/29/18 9:07 pm

I don’t think you know what an eating disorder is

jay314
05/31/18 1:55 pm

I’ve delt with eating disorders before and I can 100% tell you it is not a choice

1PatrioticBitch
05/29/18 10:40 am

It is a mental illness, society plays a huge roll in how we view ourselves. People look up to those false idols in hollyweird if they were all of normal weight we wouldn't fee so pressured to be stick thin.

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mfjd1948 rural johnson co iowa
05/29/18 9:59 am

Yes. Anorexia, bulimias, and binge-eating have a mental component and need the help of the mental health professionals to be addressed. Individuals cannot overcome these conditions on their own.

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Brrrrrrrrr
05/29/18 9:53 am

🤔 MFW overeating is a mental disorder but gender queerity isn’t.

swervin Maryland
05/29/18 9:48 am

Depends on which ones. Some yes, for sure.

jakefromarizona nunya
05/29/18 7:38 am

If people have something like food allergies, it's not a mental disorder. There are things like anaorexia but more people have food allergies, as they are the most common eating disorder.

ThisIsAthens Transhumanist Libertarian
05/29/18 7:10 am

If it is determined that something is wrong with there brain or it has become an addiction

ThisIsAthens Transhumanist Libertarian
05/29/18 7:10 am

If it is determined that something is wrong with there brain or it has become an addiction

BadGalSavv Euphoria
05/29/18 7:09 am

I’ve personally gone through recovery for anorexia (I am healthy now) but with my experience everything that was stopping me from eating was all in my head , I was at the point I convinced myself food was foreign and I shouldn’t eat it . I had to change my whole thought process (which was hard AF) worse thing I’ve ever been through but like I said at the end of the day it was all in my head.

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craftyAg Fraggle Rock
05/29/18 6:36 am

Google Pica and tell me that eating dirt, hair, toy cars, and nails ISN’T a mental disorder. I dare you.

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phalnx Ohio
05/29/18 11:05 am

It isn't...little kids do that all the time :D

craftyAg Fraggle Rock
05/29/18 1:57 pm

I’m talking about adults who know better and still do it. To the point of having to have surgical removals...

phalnx Ohio
05/29/18 3:03 pm

Ever seen those Jackass movies? Adults do that too.

rambo088 kansas
05/30/18 8:10 am

They do it for money and fame not out of compulsion. You're conflating 2 very different examples

iceberg124
05/29/18 5:48 am

Its a choice

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MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 7:08 am

Please elaborate

iceberg124
05/29/18 7:31 am

You choose to starve yourself, or throw up. It’s a symptom of poor choices

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 7:37 am

You choose to starve yourself or vomit because....work with me here. There is some sort of mental illness.

iceberg124
05/29/18 7:54 am

Schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline personality, etc. Food disorder is a choice or symptom associated with deeper mental illnesses

iceberg124
05/29/18 7:56 am

At the end of the day you decide you want to throw up or not eat, no gun is your head. You may be susceptible to making poor choices due to other mental problems.

Carcano Luke 10 19
05/29/18 9:23 pm

The disorder causes you to choose to do those things, just like certain mental disorders cause you to attempt suicide or claw your own skin off.

crazyjane New Jersey
06/05/18 3:02 pm

I actually agree with carcano for once^

MrsCrayonWax
06/05/18 4:07 pm

There is more to carcano than he lets on.

Schiltz ILLINOIS
05/29/18 5:30 am

I thought they already were

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shygal47 Florida east coast
05/29/18 4:52 am

It could be. There are a myriad of reasons.

zimmy Florida
05/29/18 4:30 am

Yes, because that’s what it is.

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Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/29/18 3:53 am

This is why the term “mental illness” is becoming completely meaningless.

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rambo088 kansas
05/29/18 6:45 am

Because you don't understand it?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/29/18 7:04 am

Because those who don’t understand it (or those who do but are malicious) want to use it as a catch-all term.

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 7:09 am

So an anorexic who looks in the mirror and sees themselves as fat is what exactly?

rambo088 kansas
05/29/18 7:09 am

Eating disorders are mental disorders, not even debatable at this point. You're just ignoring facts

MrsCrayonWax
05/29/18 7:09 am

Agreed Rambo

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/29/18 7:19 am

That would be a specific example, on which the root issue is an inaccurate self-image rather than the eating behavior itself.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/29/18 7:21 am

See: Body Dysmorphic Disorder

lorraineruth Bozeman
05/30/18 12:02 am

Anorexia is literally listed in the DSM V.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/30/18 3:37 am

Is that supposed to be relevant to the question? Because it isn’t.

Obvious101 MO
05/30/18 7:37 am

Liberty. The DSM comment suggests that eating disorders are a mental illness because a very large group of MD’s & PhD’s got together & designated it as such. That they didn’t consult you in the matter is what, fortuitous?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/30/18 10:58 am

You’re suggesting that some is correct because it is done currently. That’s the fallacy of tradition and not a valid argument.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/30/18 10:59 am

Essentially, you’re saying that it should be classified as a mental illness because it’s classified as a mental illness.

Makes no sense.

MrsCrayonWax
05/30/18 11:01 am

You’re going all in on this one, huh?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/30/18 11:20 am

Not really, just responding to inquiries as they come.

MrsCrayonWax
05/30/18 11:21 am

On a serious note, are you a skeptic involving mental illness, a student of the field?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/30/18 11:26 am

That wouldn’t be relevant to the discussion either. As you can see, the issue is more the ability to discuss a topic logically rather than the actual topic itself.

MrsCrayonWax
05/30/18 11:35 am

I was just curious is you had a fascination with the DSM. But ok.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
05/30/18 12:51 pm

Not really. Another user brought it up.

crazyjane New Jersey
06/05/18 3:03 pm

There’s a whole section in the dsm-5 on eating and feeding disorders

Liberty Lets Use Logic
06/06/18 4:25 am

Again, that someone does something currently is wholly irrelevant to the question of whether that something *should* be done (fallacy of tradition).

MrsCrayonWax
06/06/18 4:43 am

Would should they be classified as?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
06/06/18 6:43 am

Who says they have to be “classified” as anything?

MrsCrayonWax
06/06/18 7:00 am

Characterized. Mistype. Because that is what the question is asking.

MrsCrayonWax
06/06/18 7:00 am

Do you *think* and if not, what should it be?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
06/06/18 10:07 am

I don’t really feel a need to characterize it as anything else.

MrsCrayonWax
06/06/18 10:09 am

What an odd conversation.

RNJen Bay Area USA
05/29/18 3:37 am

It certainly causes mental illness. It is a true disorder that many people cannot fix by themselves.

Spiritof76 USA 1776
05/29/18 3:05 am

No. Just resist the temptation to buy shitty artificial "food" at the store, and just drive past (better yet, walk past) the McDonalds. Problem solved.

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craftyAg Fraggle Rock
05/29/18 6:32 am

How will that help anorexia?

Spiritof76 USA 1776
05/29/18 9:42 am

Anorexia is way less common than obesity. Also, Anorexia is a body image problem.

albyunderwater Yesterday
05/29/18 12:35 pm

Agreed. There’s tons of fat people. Anorexia is way more complex than body image though.

craftyAg Fraggle Rock
05/29/18 1:58 pm

So then you’re completely off topic, then? The question wasn’t about generalized bad eating habits...

lorraineruth Bozeman
05/30/18 12:04 am

Obesity isn't an eating disorder.

cowboy SCOTUS 2020
05/29/18 3:05 am

Yes. Like all Body Dysmorphic Disorders, like a man thinking he is a female and vice versa.

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MJK Pittsburgh, PA
05/29/18 3:58 am

Transgenderism falls under gender dysphoria not body dysmorphia

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
05/29/18 2:07 am

Well, yeah. Because that's exactly what they are.

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jlong105 Indiana
05/29/18 1:31 am

Then they wouldn’t let fat people or skinny people own guns

countryqueen1
05/28/18 11:20 pm

I don't understand why they wouldn't be. They are psychological illnesses that happen to manifest in a physical way.

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crazyjane New Jersey
05/28/18 10:52 pm

Yes. I have avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder and it’s tough

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
05/28/18 10:43 pm

Aren’t they an impulse control disorder?

gonk In a psychology textbook
05/28/18 10:50 pm

They’re categorized under Feeding and Eating Disorders. Impulse Control is a separate category, including disorders such as Oppositional Defiant Disorder and Pyromania. A vastly different flavor of disorders, if you ask me.

Kyle5 TN
05/28/18 10:29 pm

They aren’t?!?

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gonk In a psychology textbook
05/28/18 10:17 pm

Eating disorders are about so much more than lack of self control. To attribute them to lack of self control is quite a gross misrepresentation. Quite often there’s past sexual abuse and other trauma that are major contributing factors. Eating disorders are complex mental health issues.

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
05/29/18 3:09 am

I disagree. You can't tell me that they can't determine what type of food and drink they buy at the grocery store. Eat a few bags of carrots instead of a few bags of potato chips, or drink a few glasses of water instead of a few Mountain Dew's.

craftyAg Fraggle Rock
05/29/18 6:34 am

Spirit, have you honestly never heard of anorexia?

rambo088 kansas
05/29/18 6:48 am

You can't disagree with facts. You can ignore them though

albyunderwater Yesterday
05/29/18 12:38 pm

Spirit, the question is not referring to unhealthy eating decisions. It’s talking about eating disorders.

Spiritof76 USA 1776
05/29/18 4:15 pm

Yeah, eating disorders, like obesity, is NOT a mental health issue.

Carcano Luke 10 19
05/29/18 9:52 pm

Obesity isn’t an eating disorder.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
05/28/18 8:54 pm

Yes, if not why not❓

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
05/28/18 8:33 pm

Not all. I'd say binge eating disorder isn't, yes it's a self control issue but not every self control issue is a mental illness.
Anorexia is a mental illness, your self *image* is out of whack, everyone else sees you're starving yourself while you think you're too fat.
If your reality check bounces, that's mental illness.

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farenorth swimmingly
05/28/18 10:29 pm

Both excessive and absent self control are mental illness though. Excessive is anorexia, orthorexia. Absent is bulimia, binging, with or without purging... and purging isn't just vomit but also overuse of laxatives. Unfortunately my sister has had anorexia almost 10 years now and we've done everything trying to keep her alive. Though she has anorexia, she also engages in purging after "eating for show".... I think it's weird that excessive self control basically becomes absent self control, like she literally can't stop freaking out about every single gram and calorie...

Praetorianus Fair enough.
05/28/18 11:00 pm

Anorexia must be more than "excessive self control".
Wouldn't that rather involve keeping your weight ramrod straight at an ideal level?

Carcano Luke 10 19
05/29/18 9:54 pm

When you can’t stop eating it’s a disorder. A normal person stops eating when they’re full. That’s not self control. Your body tells you not to eat more through pain. Someone with a disorder eats despite this pain.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
05/28/18 8:09 pm

During candy weeks, I eat until I barf. That’s a self control issue. I don’t hide candy in secret, eat then head to the “vomitorium” then return for more. I don’t starve myself to death for some idea of unattainable physical perfection. I don’t eat and eat and eat without thinking “I should probably stop”, on a constant basis and blowing up to 800 pounds. I have no self control a few weeks out of the year. The others are eating disorders. They affect your overall health, happiness and even life expectancy.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
05/28/18 9:57 pm

Especially morbid obesity, the kind that turns heads.
I don't see extreme obesity in people who appear to be over 70, they either have lost weight or are dead.

lcamino Florida
05/28/18 8:07 pm

These disorders are mental illness.

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historyqueen
05/28/18 7:56 pm

People who worry about what someone else does should be considered a mental illness.

daverator Connecticut
05/28/18 7:54 pm

Yes, I tapped, while shoving munchkins in my mouth.

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ctskapski NB MD
05/28/18 7:48 pm

They're generally the result of some compulsion or another, so it makes sense.

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moldypipes99 delightful analysis
05/28/18 7:32 pm

Eating awhile box of Oreos then barfing it up is a self control issue. I could not stop eating the Oreos. NOT a mental disorder.

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rambo088 kansas
05/28/18 7:36 pm

Self control isnt mental?

moldypipes99 delightful analysis
05/28/18 7:42 pm

Call it self control or disciple, either way , same principle

moldypipes99 delightful analysis
05/28/18 7:59 pm

IMHO , Mental disorders are dimensia or autism. Not eating like a pig and barfing it up. That is just being a fat lazy pig then feeling bad about it. Like a buyers remorse situation. Have some self control.

wearemonkeys77 Lest We Forget... Hodor
05/28/18 8:25 pm

Some Malnourished incredibly skinny bulimic people truly believe they're fat

farenorth swimmingly
05/28/18 10:16 pm

Neurological disorders are not the same as mental illness.......

rambo088 kansas
05/29/18 5:27 am

Moldy self control is "controlled" by the mind. Therefore having low impulse control can be a mental disorder...

craftyAg Fraggle Rock
05/29/18 6:38 am

Binge eaters have the same dopamine reactions in their brains as heroin addicts. It’s definitely both physiological and psychological and not a straight question of “self-control.”