2Aers argue guns make areas safer and gun control fails. Their failure example is Chicago. If we armed every person in Chicago, do you think it would make the city safer, or that gun violence would actually increase?
It might temporarily increase while the gangs killed each other down to the last member, but then it would drop drastically and permanently.
I think there would be an extinction burst-/ a bunch and then it would fade down
As soon as we build a social infrastructure like Switzerland including required training and military service, then we can talk.
Are you advocating for a white, European cultural revolution in America?
Uh oh! 😳
You're clearly either REALLY reaching or have the IQ of a comatose chicken.
Isn’t Switzerland predominantly white?; European?
Tell me where I am wrong on that?
As a person with the IQ of a comatose chicken, I’m offended!
Shaz is very liberal. Imagine my shock when he was advocating for a cultural revolution from a pre-dominantly, white, European country. I am confused how on one hand he can be very liberal, yet....
Chicago’s strict gun laws were overturned by the Heller decision years ago. They do still have stricter laws than many of the states & counties surrounding them where many of the guns were purchased for many of the gun crimes that happen there. It’s just a bad example to use all around.
To answer your question, I’ll point you to the Wild West where everyone was armed and it was known for its...peace???
Law abiding citizens? It would quickly go down.
Everyone? It would obviously go up. Lots of gang bangers and felons in that he'll hole
See my reply to Chinto below
Then again....do criminals obey gun laws?
Do gun free zones work?
This poll was actually inspired by an exchange on gun free zones. Specifically the WH being a GFZ and OK bc there is so many gov employees there carrying guns. The problem with the logic is outlined both in the Q and in my response to Chinto below.
I’d say a brief spike, then a sharp decline.
Hey Shaz I’m curious what your idea of gun control/reform would look like? What would you suggest?
Nope not worry it. I've had that discussion many times in here. Always turns into a conspiracy theory that the gov will one day come for our guns.
My hope is that one day I will see a proposed solution from a 2Aer. So far no one has stepped up. You want to take a shot?
Chicago is a very good example of the failure of the prohibition of drugs, just as it was also a very good example of the failure of the prohibition of alcohol.
By everybody you mean “except minors, felons and the mentality unstable”, right?
Nope. I mean everybody. The NRA and rabid 2Aers argue that the gov cannot be trusted to decide who can/cannot own guns. They pointout that Hitler decided who could/couldn't own guns.
Also, the need for 2A is to prevent gov suppression. How can we give the power to prohibit the means of rebellion to the group we may need to rebel against?
Well now you're just being ridiculous
The problem with Chicago is that he nice old people in the bad neighborhoods, black and white, are defenseless against home invasions. And the criminals know this. They are the real victims. Police can’t do anything except make a report the next day.
The rabid 2Aers are usually libertarians. They are also in favor of legalizing drugs.
Your question is as ridiculous as asking if the world would be better if we give cocaine to everyone.
Well, at least with cocaine people would be hyped up to get work done. They use it in South America for the laborers. They put it in cokes and they chew the leaves.