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Show Of Hands December 13th, 2017 1:22am

Which value is more important in life: security or privacy?

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runningman02 New York
12/14/17 7:12 pm

I can take care of my own security if you can ensure that whats private stays provate

Hogoke Constitution
12/14/17 8:24 am

Privacy is security

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EwokMarco
12/14/17 5:37 am

Trump attempted to get the DoJ to force web providers to turn over email addresses for people that looked to find details of protests during his inauguration.

And Betsy Devos's brother, Erik Prince has been soliciting the administration to pay for a private spy network.

There is a convergence of unscrupulous individuals wielding immense power now that are not respectful of citizens nor mindful of needed boundaries of propriety.

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outlaw393 01134
12/14/17 2:45 am

You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. There is no such thing as privacy anymore and ppl need to get used to it.

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SlapHappy 5th Generation TX born
12/13/17 12:06 pm

Privacy from what? What's to hide? *feels the foil hat brigade coming*

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ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
12/13/17 12:51 pm

Your sex life, what you do in bed, sexual orientation, what your hobbies are, what you enjoy with your down time, or anything that you hold deeply personal..... it’s no ones business. It’s not that you need to hide it, but you should feel free of unwarranted scrutiny.

SlapHappy 5th Generation TX born
12/13/17 2:17 pm

Your sex life (alive) what you do in bed (sleep) sexual orientation (orientated to my husband) what your hobbies are (cooking camping and karaoke) what you enjoy with your down time (drink). This is fun! What else you got?

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
12/13/17 3:26 pm

You can be facetious all you want, or perhaps you don’t understand the premise of my argument. But you can say all you wish while you remain anonymous on an anonymous political website. Would you want me to know your address, and where you go on the weekends, or what you wear to bed? Actually, there is no need to answer those questions, because it’s none of my business. But go ahead and flaunt your ignorance.

IrishAlzheimers oakland, ca
12/13/17 5:23 pm

Send me your address slappy so I can give you cameras and mics to set up in your house for me to watch. I’ll watch carefully and make sure I give you and your family suggestions on what to buy whenever I feel like it based on your daily activities. If you’re into cooking I have a lot of recipes to send you. Forget searching for your own because I already know what you want. Just make sure you don’t break the law because I’ll come with guys in uniform to lock you in a cage. The corporations you see now will have enough info on you that any other competing company who cannot see what you’re doing is so far behind in the game that you will never see real competition. It’s great for monopoly.

SlapHappy 5th Generation TX born
12/13/17 8:15 pm

I am completely aware. The thing you are worried about already exists. My sister makes serious bank in "customer analytics" she can statistically predict that you are more likely to pay your overdue bill if she has an anglo male British voice call you asking for $ based on all the information her company has bought about you. *gogo gadget foil hat!*

outlaw393 01134
12/14/17 2:46 am

"They" already know all that AND MORE

IrishAlzheimers oakland, ca
12/14/17 6:51 am

It’s a slippery slope. Nobody needs to be watching you 100 percent of the time. It’s not all about you either. It’s about companies buying your information. Smaller companies will not be able to buy your info so companies like amazon will get larger and prevent any competition.

Maynard Londor
12/13/17 11:19 am

Privacy. It's why I stay off most social media platforms. And probably why I like MMO's so much. Pseudonyms are awesome.

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nacho
12/13/17 10:21 am

The privacy ship. has sailed. Facebook Google etc knows more about you than your parents, friends and spouse.
We allowed it to happen by letting them collect data which can. then be sold, hacked or otherwise. collected by others firms and agencies.
I am guilty of Google invasion but I saw the Facebook business model years ago and do not use that data collector.

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Maynard Londor
12/13/17 11:21 am

This is honestly how I feel, but I still do what I can to maintain as much privacy as possible. Duck Duck Go is a good alternative to google that doesn't (or at least on a very minimum level if they are) track or collect info on you and still had a decent search engine.

Maynard Londor
12/13/17 2:46 pm

No doubt. Might look at it.

stinomite
12/13/17 8:25 am

What's the point of privacy when you're dead?

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Maynard Londor
12/13/17 11:22 am

What's the point of security when you're still dead? Can't protect you from everything.

Maynard Londor
12/13/17 11:23 am

And in a world where information is key, privacy is one of the best security measures you can focus on.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
12/13/17 8:07 am

They are not mutually exclusive......

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Henry123 Connecticut
12/13/17 11:54 am

No but the question asks which one you think is more important...

ZaQ777 Pittsburgh
12/13/17 3:51 am

I don't get the infatuation with privacy passed a basic level. Security is way more important.

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
12/13/17 6:17 am

Focus on security, and enjoy your loss of Liberty.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
12/13/17 8:26 am

Does not understand the infatuation with privacy.... says the anonymous man on the anonymous political website.

TomM
12/13/17 3:07 am

It’s a trade off. To me we have gone way too far in the direction of security and have given up too much freedom.

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Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
12/13/17 1:59 am

Privacy is the best security, along with having a loaded firearm within arm's reach at all times.

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
12/13/17 1:01 am

I want the government to secure our privacy, and always honor and hold in high regard, our right to be left alone. You want security without privacy? Move to North Korea.

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ScenarioNations California
12/12/17 11:25 pm

With no privacy you have no security. With no security you have no privacy.

Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
12/12/17 9:30 pm

With privacy comes security.

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Louderthebetter
12/12/17 9:15 pm

Security in terms of? That’s too open ended.

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BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
12/12/17 9:15 pm

Privacy from government
Security from my mate

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karakalpak Uzbekistan
12/12/17 8:39 pm

I mean if you look at war torn places where people don’t know if theyre going to die on their way to work, fuck I’ll take security.

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Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
12/12/17 9:31 pm

Uzbekistan isn’t real neither is Krygyztan. Submit to you slav rulers of Slovakia and Ukraine.

phalnx Ohio
12/12/17 7:55 pm

Security. I don't give a rat's ass about privacy...providing my personal info can't be used against me in some way (which is the only reason why I don't reveal my real name or where I work).

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
12/12/17 7:39 pm

I don’t make much of a distinction. Privacy is a subset under the broader umbrella of security, and if my privacy isn’t secure, neither am I.

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jbrower157 New York
12/12/17 8:06 pm

If the government could invade your privacy in the name of security, then your privacy is not secure.

jbrower157 New York
12/12/17 8:11 pm

Would you be ok if they told you that in order to protect against acts of terrorism they needed to filter everyone’s calls, emails and texts, and conduct warrantless searches? In that case you have security at the expense of privacy.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
12/12/17 9:05 pm

Your first reply is just saying the same thing I already said.

And no. Obviously, I would not be OK with hearing the lie yet again that filtering anyone's calls, emails, texts or conducting warrantless searches would help protect anyone from acts of terrorism. In that case, at best, I would have the weak illusion of physical security at the expense of the privacy that is the core of true security. Like I said, if my privacy isn’t assured, I have no security.

EarlyBird Portland
12/12/17 7:35 pm

I value my privacy very much.

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TomM
12/13/17 3:03 am

We have noticed. You’re one of the most active people here but also one we know very little about.

EarlyBird Portland
12/13/17 5:41 am

When I was young, my grandmother was private about everything and I thought it was odd. Now I’m the same way. I’m aware of it and fight it. I think it’s the Scandinavian blood in me.

EarlyBird Portland
12/13/17 5:45 am

I have a sister... buy her a drink and she’ll tell you her whole life story. Haha no joke.

TomM
12/13/17 12:38 pm

OH, interesting. If I buy her two will she talk about you too. How do I get in touch with her, can I get her number please 😂

EarlyBird Portland
12/13/17 1:30 pm

Haha.. you sly dog. :)

TomM
12/14/17 3:25 am

I guess that was a no. I’m not winning this game.

cecasejr Knoxville TN
12/12/17 7:24 pm

Privacy. People should take care of themselves.

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IEatzCookies Alderaan
12/12/17 7:09 pm

With privacy you have security

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lj74
12/12/17 7:08 pm

Without security, you won’t have privacy.

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xxxceo Nationalist
12/12/17 7:04 pm

Privacy. I can secure myself.

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UniversePlan Michigan
12/12/17 7:49 pm

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xxxceo Nationalist
12/12/17 7:50 pm

Lol why can’t I?

UniversePlan Michigan
12/12/17 7:55 pm

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xxxceo Nationalist
12/12/17 7:58 pm

Lightning can strike anyone. A terrorist can hit anybody. We could go to war and people will die.
I’m talking about personal security. I can handle myself well enough where I don’t need to give up privacy. I feel very secure in myself.

UniversePlan Michigan
12/12/17 7:59 pm

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xxxceo Nationalist
12/12/17 8:01 pm

Which value is more important?
Privacy, because I can secure myself.

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
12/12/17 6:39 pm

Security is a fantasy.
Ill take privacy.

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jbrower157 New York
12/12/17 6:39 pm

I trade taxes for security. Leave my privacy alone.

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NKarta Please excuse my sanity
12/12/17 6:37 pm

Nobody can ensure security, so why give up privacy for people who will probably not be able to give you security?

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lilPhoenix The Phoenix Controversy
12/12/17 6:33 pm

Would you rather A) have complete security and no privacy or B) complete privacy but no security

Securities is more important for me because the safety of myself and those around me is more important than privacy

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historyqueen
12/12/17 7:02 pm

To quote Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Alcerus fascist
12/12/17 8:01 pm

I was wondering how long it was gonna take for someone to repeat that...

historyqueen
12/12/17 9:34 pm

He was right then and he's still right.

Alcerus fascist
12/12/17 11:07 pm

I wholly disagree. There are so many things in this world that require giving up freedom in exchange for safety.

HammerHead
12/13/17 8:53 am

Yea like flying. And we all know the TSA has single handedly ended terrorism.

Liberty 4,032,064
12/12/17 6:33 pm

Definitely privacy. Security is just preservation, which doesn’t matter if you’re rights are routinely violated.

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PepsiGuy Gave up Pepsi for Lent
12/12/17 6:29 pm

I always want to be secure. I tend to size up my surroundings to make sure I can escape if I have to.

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CoffeeNow Powderpuff leftist
12/12/17 6:24 pm

In most cases the people who want your privacy cannot guarantee your security, so it’s not even worth considering

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