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In an interview, President Trump's personal attorney John Dowd said that the "president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer... and has every right to express his view of any case." Do you agree?

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oflairkjs Minnesota
12/13/17 4:12 pm

The idiot obstructs justice all the time. We left England for a reason. History is something trump doesn’t understand.

Aaron89 California
12/10/17 7:49 am

I cannot find any section or clause in Article II, no matter how vague the phrasing may be, stating or insinuating such authority

blw1104 Pennsylvania
12/06/17 4:40 am

I seem to recall that a certain court martial case concerning a deserter had complications due to his big mouth and the possibility of undue influence from the chain of command.

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5280gay Tampa
12/06/17 2:02 am

The position of president is the top enforcer of the law. No one is above the law. Ever.

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Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 11:58 am

He didn't say he was above the law, he just said that he has the right to express his views on any case.

5280gay Tampa
12/08/17 12:14 pm

Actions speak louder than words

Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 12:17 pm

We're not talking about the president though, we're talking about the lawyer and what was said by the lawyer.

Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 12:33 pm

Well that's who I'm talking about anyway. Keeping with the topic of the poll's question and all.

abusara i drink and i know things
12/07/17 6:41 am

How? It's simply took a direct quote from a lawyer and asked if you agree or not.

Wert A picture of my junk
12/05/17 6:05 pm

“Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal.” — Nixon

ccc1 Georgia
12/05/17 7:25 am

It is not illegal for the president ask Comey to lay off Flynn. There were a million reasons to fire Comey. I believe the man should be in jail

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abusara i drink and i know things
12/07/17 6:42 am

Which man? Trump? Flynn? Comey? Or all three?

Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 12:01 pm

Comey, guy; he's the subject of both sentences. Replacing his name with a pronoun doesn't change the subject. It's pretty obvious who "the man" is in that sentence.

ccc1 Georgia
12/05/17 7:23 am

So when did express opinion equal Obstruct justice?

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jbrower157 New York
12/05/17 7:30 am

When you take action to cover up a criminal in your administration.

outlaw393 Hail Loki
12/05/17 11:50 am

Innocent until proven guilty.

Agonist Iowa
12/05/17 6:01 am

Freakin' Repub HYPOCRITES!! Would you have voted "yes" if Pres. Obama's lawyers said that?

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jadeburt Ann Arbor, Michigan
12/05/17 11:00 am

I’m a Republican and voted no.

jbrower157 New York
12/07/17 10:15 am

I do t think obama had a private lawyer on hand as president.

Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 12:03 pm

I would have said yes for Obama as well. Take a chill pill, dude

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
12/04/17 11:07 pm

According to 1999 Jeff Sessions...the President can obstruct justice: www.politico.com/story/2017/12/04/jeff-sessions-president-obstruct-justice-bill-clinton-278517. 40 Republican Senators agreed with him.
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abusara i drink and i know things
12/07/17 6:43 am

My how times have changed 😂😂😂

Aeroworks Ohio
12/04/17 10:54 pm

It doesn't matter if I agree or not. The department of Justice has held this position for a long time. The question implies the freaking lawyer is the one making g this up.

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abusara i drink and i know things
12/07/17 6:46 am

Be that as it may, it's still an unsettled legal question (i.e., the courts have yet to rule on the matter). And as a political question it's a different matter all together. Two former presidents faced impeachment for obstructing justice. Nixon who resigned first and Clinton that was impeached.

rondo1 Colorado
12/04/17 9:19 pm

Sounds like he’s heard the footsteps !

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GrammarRocks
12/04/17 6:40 pm

Don’t remember Pres. Obama interfering with his opinion with the black Harvard professor, Trayvon Martin, etc.? Condone or condemn them both. Take a stand and resist the temptation to hide behind party lines.

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Attikai Oregon
12/04/17 9:07 pm

Obama obstructed justice in those cases?

RagingMystic covfefe
12/05/17 4:11 pm

No, saying unarmed black kids shouldnt be shot is not obstructing justice. Firing someone because theyre investigating you is.

evoecon nearest binary system
12/06/17 12:17 am

Blind to the truth. Propaganda consumed and assimilated.

cannoneer Columbiana
12/04/17 5:41 pm

“Express his opinion” and “obstruct justice” have nothing to do with each other.

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
12/04/17 11:19 pm

Indeed.
It's like saying destroying email severs with classified info on them that have been requested in an investigation via smashing as a matter of speech.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/04/17 5:32 pm

That’s just idiotic.

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fmm Philadelphia suburb
12/04/17 3:34 pm

sounds like Nixon’s statement to Frost -

“when the president does it, that means it is not illegal.”

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Wizine
12/04/17 2:56 pm

Nixon was impeached for obstruction

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historyqueen
12/04/17 4:18 pm

Nixon was not impeached, he resigned before they could impeach him.

RagingMystic covfefe
12/05/17 4:12 pm

He was impeached, just not ejected from office. Impeachment is the commencement of the investigation.

historyqueen
12/05/17 5:51 pm

Historians and every history book printed must be wrong. Here is history website that explains why he wasn't considered impeached.

www.historyonthenet.com/was-richard-nixon-impeached/

historyqueen
12/05/17 5:57 pm

"Faced with what seemed almost certain impeachment, Nixon announced on August 8, 1974, that he would resign the next day to begin "that process of healing which is so desperately needed in America."

Whitehouse.gov

historyqueen
12/05/17 6:05 pm

In late July 1974 the House Judiciary Committee passed the first of three articles of impeachment against Nixon, charging obstruction of justice. Upon the threat of a likely post-impeachment conviction, Richard Nixon resigned from the office of the presidency on August 9, 1974. He was succeeded by Gerald Ford, whom Nixon had appointed vice president in 1973 after Spiro Agnew resigned his office amid charges of bribery, extortion and tax evasion during his tenure as governor of Maryland. Nixon was pardoned by President Ford on September 8, 1974.

Biography.com

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
12/04/17 2:28 pm

He can say whatever he wants though.

kadeo
12/04/17 4:41 pm

The operative word is "SAY"

timeout Boston Strong
12/04/17 2:12 pm

BULLSHlT!!!!!!

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PepsiGuy Gave up Pepsi for Lent
12/04/17 1:31 pm

Umm he has the most power to obstruct justice.

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otto Olean, NY
12/04/17 1:03 pm

In principle, I don’t necessarily agree. In law, I absolutely agree. And I presume it is why Obama was never impeached for refusing to enforce numerous federal laws when it suited his politics. Although that was worse because it technically displayed a willing disregard for the Constitution he swore to uphold and enforce.

But if this is referring to Trump asking Comey to lay off Flynn, there is nothing illegal about that. It’s not even illegal if that was the reason he fired him, which I reckon was A reason. But there were a million reasons besides that for him to be fired. And it should have been done about a year before it was.

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goof02 Virginia
12/04/17 1:01 pm

Trump has the right to express his views but that in no way supports the claim that the President cannot obstruct justice. That’s batshit insane.

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cooper21072
12/04/17 12:58 pm

I think he CAN obstruct, and I think he has the right to his own view... 1st amendment applies to him too

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PotatoKing21 Idaho
12/04/17 12:55 pm

He certainly CAN obstruct justice, but whether or not he actually did is still to be seen.

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Liberty 4,032,064
12/04/17 12:45 pm

Legally speaking, he’s correct.

That said, it’s still total BS.

arecnation
12/04/17 12:44 pm

Well then someone call Richard Nixon and tell I’m to come back to life because he should he president again if this is true

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
12/04/17 12:05 pm

Nixon thought that too. And how did that work out for him?

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martyt02
12/04/17 11:59 am

Yes. There are a lot of things we ( and he) are allowed to do...but just because we can doesn’t mean we should. People expect us to exercise good judgement. He was hired to do so.

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
12/04/17 11:56 am

He's not the chief law enforcement official. That's the AG.

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Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 12:06 pm

He's the head of the executive branch, which is responsible for enforcing legislation. How does that not make him the top law enforcement official?

Diogenes FreeMeBe
12/08/17 12:51 pm

Go back to 10th grade and relearn your US government.

Alcerus fascist
12/08/17 12:53 pm

Sorry, I should have put a trigger warning in my comment, I guess. I wasn't expecting an ad hom out of nowhere.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
12/08/17 1:01 pm

Not ad hom at all. It's simple US government hierarchy. The President is the head of the executive branch but not the top law official. He would not attempt to dictate or assess a law for the interests of the IS populous. Can he suggest a legal direction, sure, but he is not the top law official.

smartfart Florida
12/04/17 11:46 am

What was Clinton impeached for? Obstruction of justice? I guess Trump should move to have that expunged.

Malekithe Hades
12/04/17 12:42 pm

Lying under oath.

smartfart Florida
12/04/17 12:45 pm

And also found guilty of obstruction of justice. The thing that Trump’s attorney pulled a Frost/Nixon with. Precedence disagrees with him.

Malekithe Hades
12/04/17 1:10 pm

True but different circumstances.
Trump's lawyer was referring to the firing of Comey

Malekithe Hades
12/04/17 1:11 pm

Either way, i don't know why this lawyer even said this.

omniku dot com
12/04/17 2:01 pm

@malekithe He was trying to cover for Trump’s recent tweet where he accidentally admitted to obstructing justice.

www.businessinsider.com/john-dowd-claims-he-wrote-trump-tweet-about-michael-flynn-2017-1

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
12/04/17 11:39 am

Yes, he has every right to express his views. No, he's not above the law.

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MrMilkdud
12/04/17 11:22 am

And Kim Jung Un can’t break the law because the supreme leader can change the law at any time as he sees fit.

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mrscheisskopf2 Kentucky
12/04/17 11:10 am

Sure he has every right to express his views, but that doesn't mean he should

PeopleAreDumb Nursing School
12/04/17 11:06 am

Does anyone get the impression that Donald Trump genuinely thinks he’s above the law here?

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historyqueen
12/04/17 4:22 pm

Absolutely...rule of law doesn't apply to Donald Trump.

susanr Colorado
12/04/17 10:09 pm

Not for the first time, either.

Obvious101 MO
12/05/17 11:20 am

Yep, he doesn’t respect the rule of law. Doubt he even understands the concept.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
12/04/17 11:02 am

The president is the highest ranking public servant, and the commander in chief of the military. I do not believe he is the chief law enforcement officer, any more than he is the chief pilot, chief medical officer, chief science officer, or king. And the president is most certainly not above the law.

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phalnx Ohio
12/04/17 10:53 am

Trump is the President, not a Dictator or King. He is not above the law.

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rambo088 kansas
12/04/17 10:51 am

I agree with the second part

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Diknak Ohio
12/04/17 10:49 am

In terms of commenting on a case, it's perfectly fine after it's over. Otherwise it can be argued that he can't get a fair trial, especially if he is positioning himself against the accused.

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SoCalGal
12/04/17 10:48 am

What Trump allegedly said was not an order....no matter how Comey twisted it.

“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, according to the Comey memo cited by The Times. “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”

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Diknak Ohio
12/04/17 11:00 am

It doesn't have to be a direct order or asking him to drop it. All it has to be is implied for it to be relevant.

STEVE64 Michigan
12/04/17 11:00 am

I agree it isn't a direct order, but couple it with "I expect loyalty" and then firing him when he doesn't do as Trump "hoped" is still fishy

osouless Whats Next
12/04/17 10:45 am

How’d that work out for Nixon?

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makem Chinese Xinjiang Camp
12/04/17 10:40 am

Yes on the second part, no on the first

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
12/04/17 10:39 am

Go figure that a charlatan would have a charlatan attorney...

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Kay41 the Midwest
12/04/17 10:32 am

Agree to him having every right to express his views on any case.
Disagree to cannot obstruct justice.

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smart1
12/04/17 10:31 am

How very Nixonian.

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Psychoanalysis Analyze Everything
12/04/17 10:25 am

No, and I don’t approve Obama doing it either. These elitists are pulling this nonsense to help themselves and help each other at the expense of the people. It is not a partisan issue, it is a class issue!

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nacho
12/04/17 10:24 am

If I had a son he would look like Travyon and a member of that White Hispanic racial group we just made up would be held responsible.

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jbrower157 New York
12/04/17 10:20 am

Hahahaha. So in other words, he confesses to obstructing Justice and says you can’t get me. Can’t wait to get this trash out of the White House. All of it.

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Zardoz California native
12/04/17 10:15 am

Who does he think he works for? Louis XIV?

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historyqueen
12/04/17 4:26 pm

No, he thinks he's Louis XIV, have the seen the gilded furniture that decorates his home?