Studies show that patients who take cannabis, are more likely to stop taking opioids for pain relief. Do you believe it?
So you’re saying that if somebody already has one coping mechanism, they are less likely to use other ones?
I’m pro-legalization but this study is a waste of time.
I don't think it's a waste of time. Cannabis is much weaker as a pain reliever than opiates. The fact that someone suffering chronic pain would choose the weaker relief suggests the kind of relief it gives is different and perhaps offers more long term pain reduction. It suggests there's something specific about how cannabis interacts with pain processing in the brain that isn't simply nerve dampening like opiates.
Opioids actually work centrally in the brain 🧠.
You're right, my mistake. But I seem to remember that cannabinoids and opiates do use different pathways to reducing pain.
You’re probably right on that.
I read the question wrong initially. I didn’t catch that it seems to imply that cannibus is being used to get people off opioids.
I do believe it. My husband just began medical marijuana a couple of weeks ago for migraines. It has seriously reduced the intensity, frequency, and duration of his pain. If it affects others the same way it affects him, they wouldn’t have as much need for pain killers.
I should point out that he never took opioids.
I'm so glad to hear it's working for him
Thanks. We really have something to be thankful for. I just hope it keeps on working.
I hope it continues to help him! Does he require opioids at times for his headaches?
I’m not sold.
Cannabis > opioids
I want to believe
Studies show that cannabis cures everything and has absolutely no side affects.
I've been using cannabis for a while and admittedly there are side effects. Since it's a vasodilater I get dehydrated easier without noticing. Also using frequently definitely impacts short term memory after a while. But I've noticed that if I stick to just 1-2x per week, my memory is actually better. That said, these are ridiculously benign effects compared to opiates. And I will never touch opiates in my life.
Are you using it for pain?
Nope, for nausea (due to a GI issue) and recreationally.
No. I’ve never seen a patient on opioids who stopped while using pot. They generally just use both together.
What if they were given pot instead of opioids?
Idk. I haven’t seen any studies where pain has been treated with pot alone.
Not even on cancer patients?
In my experience most cancer patients are treated with pot to combat the side effects of chemotherapy, usually nausea and vomiting and not the pain itself. Pain caused by malignancy is not usually counted as a part of the opioid epidemic stats. It is the prescription of opioids for non malignant pain that is of most concern.
Bone cancer is very painful. My aunt was miserable.
I’m sorry to hear about your aunt. Bone cancer is one of the most painful malignancies. Did she use marijuana to ease her pain or other discomfort?
Thank you. No. It wasn't legal. She was on strong pain pills and they made her weak and tired. She had trouble getting any rest without them though. It was heartbreaking to watch her decline. She was a very active lady, a second Mom.
Hmmm, substituting one for another🤔
I’ve seen this concept.
Is MJ less problematic, yes.
Opioids are a big problem, sad.
However, I’ve seen pot be a huge problem for a couple of folks, ya know on the bong 20, 30x a day? And yes for them it was a gateway drug. It was, sorry folks🤷🏻♀️
I’m not anti-weed at all, it’s not my thing but to each their own.
The need to escape whether it’s alcohol, weed, opioids or cigs....this is the question at hand. Addiction levels can be subjective. God I’ve watched alcohol destroy families, who hasn’t?
Do happy healthy kids from happy healthy homes start smoking weed at 12 or 13? I say NO. Maybe I live in a fairytale🧚🏼♀️
Sorry to ramble on, solid question.
But also more likely to abuse burritos and it can be a gateway for dangerous, socially isolating lifestyle practices like hacky sack or (shudder) devil’s sticks.
Made me lol. You win.
I do. I've known a lot of stoners, and while some of them were also part-time drunks, none seemed to have any interest in other drugs except maybe the occasional mushroom or tab of acid. But it makes sense. Why take addictive, dangerous, or expensive drugs to feel better if you already feel pretty good?
That fact that half a Percocet (even with my 260lb frame) gives me a stomach ache and itch like crazy is enough for me not to take opioids.
Im not interested in cannibis either, but its already the better choice for a guy like me.
Damn I cant get over that. At 120 pounds it maaybe took an edge off.
Im a big baby when it comes to meds. Its so funny to watch. Im such a “manly” guy, but I have the tolerance of a toddler for most meds.
I get slightly drowsy from dayquil. 🤣
If I take NyQuil its a race against time to get to bed bc in 12mins Im out cold.
Getting people off opioids is a good thing.
Wow, imagine that! Perhaps marijuana could solve the opioid crisis! Talk about synergy!
Big pharma will fight this to the death
They already are
The private prison industry doesn’t want it either. And in the Netherlands......they are shutting down prisons for lack of prisoners.
Weed needs to be legalized. Period.
Correlation is not causation, and substituting one illegal drug for another doesn’t really have me dancing in the streets.
One is natural and has hardly any side effects other than hungry, happy, sleepy
And if you use one, you are more likely to use the other.
There are negative effects to using cannabis. These include lack of ambition, impaired thinking and difficulty completing tasks, lower life satisfaction, addiction, and relationship problems. Plus, when cannabis use starts in teenage years, IQ can decline by as many as 8 points.
And what are the side effects of opioids
They’re irrelevant. Nobody should start using illegal drugs in the first place.
Illegal is not the same as dangerous.
Let’s just make it legal. Problem solved.
That’s correct. There are legal substances that are just as dangerous, if not more so. The question is whether we should tolerate any substance of abuse being legal.
Who is talking about abuse? Opioids are addictive. Marijuana is not.
Opioids will kill you if you take too much. Marijuana will put you to sleep. There is no equivalence.
There doesn’t have to be equivalence. There just has to be more harm than good for each substance.
Sounds like a great argument for marijuana use to relieve pain.
The costs far outweigh the benefits for marijuana and opioids.
What are the costs of legalizing marijuana?
More impaired driving deaths, a lazier and less ambitious populace, and more addicted people.
Zero addicted people, less money on the failing war on drugs, more tax income for roads and schools, less children with parents in jail, far fewer criminal drug dealers.
Marijuana is addictive.
Addiction to marijuana is rare compared to addiction to alcohol.
I hate to agree with Polster on anything. I’m going to have to start smoking pot now.