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gluxford1 November 17th, 2017 12:07pm

Your county is about to decide who will be the next DA. Ann is a progressive who vows to never seek execution & favors lenient sentences for convicts. Joe is a hardliner who favors the death penalty & tough justice policies. Who would get your vote?

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ctskapski x
11/17/17 4:17 pm

Tough choice.
Can't we get somebody who takes the cases individually instead of having a cut-and-dry position?

I'd hate for my sister to get 20 years for shoplifting, just like I'd hate my neighbor getting 5 years probation for murdering his wife.

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IEatzCookies Alderaan
11/17/17 3:18 pm

Unfortunately it doesnt seem as if women are capable enough in positions of power. Especially when the Justice system is involved.

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sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 4:01 pm

Ahem, I’m sorry...did i read that correctly?

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 4:01 pm

Women aren’t capable in positions of power?

lilPhoenix The Phoenix Controversy
11/17/17 12:42 pm

I wouldn’t want either. Ann wants lenient punishments but if you get a lenient punishment the criminal will never learn his/her lesson. Joe (I think that’s what his name is) wants the realty penalty which in my opinion is way out of line. What if someone just stole a candy bar, is Joe supposed to chop their hands off? No! If someone did a mass shooting, is Ann supposed to stay in jail for night and be released with a pat on the back? No! So neither one would be good. We need someone who’s in between and knows what punishments are appropriate.

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 5:35 pm

Being tough on crime does not equate to chopping your hand off for stealing candy. This isn't Saudi Arabia.

lilPhoenix The Phoenix Controversy
11/17/17 7:11 pm

@gluxford1 I know, I was referring to the fact that he wants the death penalty. I was purposely over exaggerating everything lol

gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 8:24 pm

I support the death penalty.

lilPhoenix The Phoenix Controversy
11/18/17 12:34 pm

@gluxford1 I support the death penalty on certain crimes/cases

lilPhoenix The Phoenix Controversy
11/18/17 12:36 pm

Just not if it’s abused. Not saying that Joe would abuse it if he was the DA

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/17/17 11:07 am

I don’t want to live in a liberal ghetto.

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Senate101 San Diego
11/17/17 10:03 am

Neither are good...

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sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 7:01 am

Our country locks so many people up and for what? Many people for using substances or problems that stem from mental health. Violent offenders can still be addressed while reducing the inmate population. Mass incarceration is a barbaric stain on the fabric of our country.

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PyroSadist like my comments follow
11/17/17 7:38 am

Our country locks people up for breaking the law. Thought it was pretty clear but apparently not since you had to ask.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
11/17/17 7:55 am

For drugs I agree, but for violence I have no problem removing you from society. We don’t need that shit

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/17/17 11:03 am

To keep innocent people safe. There are plenty of cities that are soft on crime if you like that and the housing is cheap too because few people want to move there.

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 11:50 am

I live in a big city and helped campaign for our newly elected district attorney who was a civil rights attorney for 30 years. The problem with that is anyone who goes to jail, regardless of innocence confirmed at trial is also in that population. Do you think they’re safe? No, just because they’re too poor to make bail.

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 11:54 am

Or even a careless pothead. We often House them with violent offenders.

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/17/17 5:05 pm

I prefer low crime neighborhoods.

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 5:10 pm

Don’t we all? I think a better solution than our current model would be increased House arrest for individuals who’ve committed intermediate felonies, regular monitoring for petty crimes.

Because people get out. And in the US they almost ALL reoffend. Recidivism rates are absolutely bananas.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
11/17/17 5:20 pm

“To what end?”

I thought that was obvious. Less chance of being a victim

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
11/17/17 5:21 pm

“Or even a careless pothead”

I don’t care about drugs. Legalize cocaine for all I care. But if you physically harm others you need to go

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 5:24 pm

Clearly incapacitation as we’re doing it now isn’t working. Locking people up en masse isn’t helping victims, it’s creating more and more violent offenders.

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 5:25 pm

We definitely need to decriminalize drugs. It’s a major contributor.

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/17/17 7:22 pm

Not true. As our incarceration rates went up crime went down. Pretty obvious.

sydneyswaggon
11/17/17 7:30 pm

You don’t think that could be an effect of police militarization? Increased police visibility and presence? The fact that due to forensics it’s much more difficult to commit certain crimes? There’s so many variables.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
11/17/17 10:53 pm

“Clearly incapacitation as we’re doing it now isn’t working. “

Well yes and no. For drugs I agree it’s a waste of time. For violent offenders, it’s working....until you let them loose. So just don’t let them loose, problem solved

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/18/17 2:44 am

There are plenty of neighborhoods where drugs are everywhere and so are the criminals. Go live there if you want, I sure don’t want to.

sydneyswaggon
11/18/17 9:18 am

I do live in a high crime area because that’s the nature of my occupation and I won’t do a long commute. There are no safe spaces, not anywhere that I’ve set my foot on this green earth.

PyroSadist like my comments follow
11/18/17 9:48 am

Perhaps....but some places are certainly safer than others

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
11/18/17 10:14 am

“not anywhere that I’ve set my foot”

Let’s not even try then. Fuck it right? You’re comfortable living in a high crime area so fuck everyone else.

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/18/17 11:32 am

Some places are tremendously safer than others and people, especially kids, shouldn’t have to put up with high crime areas.

sydneyswaggon
11/18/17 11:49 am

No. I think house arrest is a cheap alternative to mass incarceration with the same benefits of incapacitation via incarceration. We have technology that updates GPS in real time. I said that before and I’m reiterating it here. It’s not black and white, it’s not let all the inmates out or lock them up until they die. This matter is not black and white, I don’t know why you keep making it seem as though my position is absolutely no concern for the safety of the public.

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/18/17 12:08 pm

Because the public is not safe in places that are soft on crime. High crime areas have this mentality and the only time they get cleaned up is when they finally decide to get tough on crime.

sydneyswaggon
11/18/17 12:13 pm

Approximately 2,200,000 behind bars. We house 22% of the world’s prisoners. that’s not “cleaned up” enough for you? Gross.

sydneyswaggon
11/18/17 12:34 pm

Lol I’ll concede to that, that’s why I do the work I do πŸ™ crime prevention

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/18/17 2:26 pm

Those neighborhoods have lots of rapes, murders, and other crimes. That is not enough for you?

sydneyswaggon
11/18/17 2:30 pm

Do you purposefully ignore my house arrest proposition?

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
11/17/17 6:51 am

Am I a criminal? If so I’m going Ann!

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Kamden popular revolt
11/17/17 6:50 am

Eh Joe sounds like he'd throw the book at a teen caught with a bag of weed.

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ZaQ777 Pittsburgh
11/17/17 6:48 am

Ann of course. Our justice system is way too punitive.

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 5:34 pm

Yeah! Punishing people for crimes is just regressive! Let's give them hugs instead!

ZaQ777 Pittsburgh
11/17/17 8:50 pm

Heaven forbid we try to actually help people. Nah, let's just go for blood.

gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 8:56 pm

Yes, let's help rapists and murderers instead of their victims. πŸ™„

Malekithe My pronouns are GFY
11/17/17 5:43 am

We need to start putting the victim ahead of the criminal.
Vote Joe

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TrueAmerican7 I Am Galt.
11/17/17 5:43 am

Sounds like Ann doesn’t understand the job she’s applying for.

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 5:47 am

Agreed. There are plenty of real life versions of her as well.

TrueAmerican7 I Am Galt.
11/17/17 7:21 am

The governor of my state for one. He was the AG when he openly vowed not to enforce one of our laws.

jstahl Build that wall
11/17/17 7:54 am

Selective enforcement should be grounds for removal from the job. Their job is to enforce the laws as they are written. Anything less is dereliction of duty. If they want to be an activist and fight for laws to be changed, do that on their own dime.

Jazzy5 USA
11/17/17 5:16 am

I love when leniency enters the court room. The victim is left behind, when leniency is granted to the criminal.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/17/17 5:11 am

Joe & those like him, every time❗️

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 5:11 am

Agreed! πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‘πŸ»

gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 5:08 am

I'd vote for Joe in this hypothetical scenario.

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EarlyBird Portland
11/17/17 5:10 am

So would I. I believe in being tough on crime.

gluxford1 Arizona
11/17/17 5:11 am

Amen to that! Criminals deserve punishment, not coddling and leniency.