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VirtualCongress November 9th, 2017 6:28pm

Justice BertGoldberg (R-NY) proposes Census Corruption Prevention Act

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11/10/17 11:38 am

Bill passed @lucaval @virtualcongress

johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/09/17 2:21 pm

Yea, transparency is good

skinner Jersey City
11/09/17 12:04 pm

I resent the accusatory title of this bill, but I was and remain totally willing to share the census contents. That being said, I am voting nay on this bill because I think it makes too many people involved. The Speaker and Vice Speaker probably should be involved, but it's not clear to me who the "election officials" and "authorities on official conduct" are. If we have too many hands in the survey, then it would increase the chance of corruption.

11/09/17 12:30 pm

It's not accusatory, i don't know that you've done anything but It's a lapse in transparency. It would be the same case if anyone else had the job

11/09/17 12:43 pm

As far as your other question; the two titles mentioned are for if there is a case of suspected fraud and someone like the FBI director or election manager wants to check surveymonkey if someone committed fraud on the same ip, as former FBI director that was necessary at times. It doesn't mean they automatically get access, but it provides the wiggle room that if such a case arose they would be able to get through without roadblocks to actively enforce the election laws. They only get access while on official duty as the legislation says

11/09/17 12:48 pm

To be a little more clear, 'election officials' or election managers are only officials when there is an election. So they would lose access when the election is over. The vice speaker, speaker, and you would be the only ones with access at all times.

Koa18 New York
11/09/17 12:59 pm

My interpretation of this bill (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that a single VC surveymonkey account will be made and that the, the sec of commerce, the speaker, and the vice speaker have access at all times for the census. But if fraud is suspected, the FBI director will have access to the account. And that the only time the election managers have access is during an election, not during the census.

11/09/17 1:25 pm

Correct. If there isn't already an official surveymonkey account for the elections and approval this would designate that there is one which is only to be accessed by commerce, speaker, and vice. That survey account will be the official government account

Senate101 San Diego
11/09/17 11:56 am

Yea. This will, as Bert said, ensure transparency.

bower8899 ...
11/09/17 11:40 am

Is there an official vc survey monkey? I thought it was all done on separate accounts

11/09/17 12:35 pm

I believe the official surveymonkey is the one where elections and approval are carried out, or at least that used to be the case. All that should be on one account, not separate accounts and you have to ask permission to view the census or whatever. Making it awkward like that already discourages people from enforcing census credibility.

11/09/17 11:32 am

A bill recently snuck in giving the sec of commerce (skinner) all the power of the census. This is a big conflict of interest for a former party rep and big spokesperson to be the only one with access, on their personal account. This legislation will set up a system of transparency

11/09/17 11:35 am

And factors to ensure that no single person can change or edit the census without significant oversight

skinner Jersey City
11/09/17 12:07 pm

Allowing more people to access the SurveyMonkey account will make it easier, not harder to do whatever corrupt activity you're worried about. It's not like everyone with access to the account has to agree before making a decision like deleting a vote. One person can do it without informing the others, making the chance of abuse higher and the odds of accountability infinitesimal.

11/09/17 12:32 pm

The election manager and speakers were for years controlling the elections on one account and there hasn't been any fraud, It provides oversight, and if one of the parties saw a change then the rest will be able to witness and report it.

VirtualCongress Speaker NDAmerican
11/09/17 11:29 am

1. The census is to be taken on an official VC surveymonkey account shared between the speaker, vice speaker, secretary of commerce, election officials, authorities on official conduct, and whoever may be designated by law in the future.

VirtualCongress Speaker NDAmerican
11/09/17 11:30 am

Summary: Clarification bill that the census must be taken on a shared account and not a private one to prevent corruption and the potential of one person having it and one person access to the voter rolls with the potential to withhold information.