In this age where statues are taken down and schools renamed, why has no one stated the FBI building should be renamed? Hoover was a white supremacist who didn’t follow the law and thought the FBI was above it. Change the name?
Your logic applies: “if one, why not the other”. I just disagree with changing names for those reasons.
Maybe it is good to to be reminded of J Edgar and his history. Doesn’t knowing the the good cause us to evaluate the bad?
I would agree. I just wondered what others thought
Sure, doesn't matter.
No, he started the FBI. It makes sense to be named after him.
I also think it's senseless to take down statues.
Most statues that are being taken down are now in predominantly BLACK cities. Those statues were put up many years ago when those cities were predominantly WHITE. Why is everyone surprise that blacks want these gone and why are white cities not taking them and putting them up?
Yes, but won't happen because he was gay.
I’m OK with stripping the building of his name because he was a bad dude. That said, I’ve never heard that he was a white supremacist.
Apparently he was trying everything to stand up against the civil rights movements. Actually committing illegal acts to try to discredit black leaders to shut down race mixing.
Perhaps, but your use of the word “apparently” leads me to suspect you have uncertainty and no source.
Well, it was a documentary and calls made from LBJ to JEH and JEH to LBJ were unusual. The documentary listed all the things the FBI did. Had interviews with the FBI agents involved. I enjoy the documentaries but I’m not so familiar with American history to know if the documentarian had a hidden motive. LBJ certainly uses the N word but he worked for civil rights. To be honest, I had a hard time understanding anything that man said. It’s like Jeff Sessions, it’s hard to keep up.
So, yes, I am tempted to believe it based on the phone calls and interviews but it’s not a rock solid source by any stretch of the imagination. That’s why I used “apparently”.
Well explained! You’re basing your comments on a documentary whose credibility you’re uncertain of, but have confidence in, correct? Your concern for being accurate is laudable, especially here on SOH.👏
The left is in love with the FBI at the moment. Assume Trump is vindicated and the Feds go after Hillary, they’ll start hating the FBI again.
No, Hoover WAS the FBI !
That’s seems to be the problem actually
Maybe rename after Theodore Roosevelt or Charles Bonaparte, the two people who can be given credit for the creation of the FBI.
Extremely false equivalency.
Definitely. It's long overdue.
No, when I think of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover's name is the first name that comes to my mind. His name is synonymous with the FBI. I think it would be the same for most Americans.
He may have been a white supremacist, but that’s ok because he was also a democrat. Democrats don’t really have a problem with racism, they just use that as a generic insult against their political opponents to shut them up.
Yes..... "Fake Bureau of Investigation"..... McCabe, Mueller and Comey need to be prosecuted for complicity and espionage et. al.......
Why? Comey maybe, or at least investigated, but why mueller? So far he’s just doing his job.
Mueller & Comey have a history going all the way back to Bush as Ashcroft......further, once Mueller took the hem, he should of reviewed everything Comey did in the previous investigation.....no way he did not have intimate knowledge of the higher level influence and coercion of Comey and McCabe.....
No statues should be taken down and no building should be renamed. I am opposed to erasing America's cultural and historical heritage.
I agree 100%!
Agreed Gluxford 🇺🇸!
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We combatted white surpemacy back in the 60’s, thatguy.
It does no one any good to whitewash history so we don’t learn from it.
I think we should build new statues next to the old ones, that are in honor of those fought slavery and fought for Civil Rights. Then, black families can. Bring their kids, show them both statues, learn from them for free, and EMPOWER their kids with the knowledge of how far they’ve come!
Last time I visited dc I realized something.
They named the ugliest building in the city after one of the ugliest personalities! :P
Oh well, there’s that then lol
No. I don't subscribe to altering history so I can't condone your suggestion even though it makes sense.
Textbooks are revised, thatguy, all the time. Believe me, what they’re learning in school nowadays is NOT what I learned in school!
Implying leftists wouldn't start burning books.
Until you fascist leftists burn the books and push your alternative history in the communist controlled schools. Hell, most people around don't remember a time before the US was sprinting towards globalism; hence, the rabid outcries when Trump changed the narratives that the MSM were feeding them.
Yes, there is THAT, also, Nathan! After all, the censoring has already started.
A theater in Memphis is no longer showing “Gone with the Wind”, which is ironic since it’s the first movie in which a black woman won an Academy Award, for the part of Mammy.
Also, To Kill a Mockingbird is being censored in Mississippi!
So liberals are trying to wipe out ALL the pieces of art—movies, books, statues—that could actually teach about the bad side of our history—so that we don’t repeat the mistakes of the past.
I just read your comment, Dio. I don’t know enough about Nathan to know where he stands. Did I misread him? I thought he was saying that leftists will burn books to wipe out history just like they’re trying to do with other forms of art. Either way, I agree with what you’ve said, Dio.
4JC we've met before like 3 months ago (I went to bootcamp). I'm a Constitutionalist. Yes, that is exactly what I was saying.
Oh, Good! Thanks, Nathan. I should’ve know with a name like that, you’d be on our side on this issue! Lol
So you survived bootcamp. How was it? I know of guys that literally cried! Lol
We have a good many military friends and have lived near military bases, visited on post, sold Avon on post, drove a school bus on post, etc.
In fact, I drove a bus that stopped just outside the gates right after 9/11. It was a mess, since they locked down the gates.
I had to watch suicidal recruits on fire watch.
Fire Watch? I’m sorry—-I don’t know what that means.
A squadbay burned down once, killing everyone inside, so we now have a watch posted throughout the night to make sure there aren't any fires going on, among other things.
Oh, wow! Are you saying that someone committed suicide by arson and killed other people in the process?
No, I'm saying a fire started by accident and killed everyone in the building.
Oh, ok! You’re saying you had to watch suicidal recruits confused me. Sorry!
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