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suppressedID November 8th, 2017 3:42pm

When looking at rates of gun violence in America, should we be comparing ourselves to other, comparable developed countries OR the entire world?

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bringstheeagle Colorado
11/12/17 8:44 pm

It don’t matter in any comparison I’m thinking we don’t come out looking good.

Luftwaff South of Heaven
11/09/17 6:03 am

First world, which means we should then look at first world people, which means White America, which is tied with gun homicide rates in England and Finland. If you take out Non-Whites, gun violence goes down a lot in this country.

Hogoke Constitution
11/08/17 9:58 am

We shouldn't be comparing ourselves to any other nation because we're unlike any other nation.

RagingMystic covfefe
11/08/17 1:34 pm

While I agree in this example, that's not a good concept for everything.

Hogoke Constitution
11/08/17 11:28 pm

Yeah that's true I can agree with that, such as military strength for example.

MadCow Kansas Proud
11/09/17 7:37 am

If everybody is special, then no one is.

cpaswr just say the letters
11/08/17 9:08 am

I bet the results would be similar. The US wins this by a landslide.

redsox95 New England
11/08/17 8:48 am

We should use relevant statistics.

"Gun violence" should not include self-harm - which make up a significant portion of the stats used by gun control advocates.

Also, we should be comparing violence levels in general, not just gun violence. Why not 'knife violence' and 'car violence'?

suppressedID destiny is right now
11/08/17 8:54 am

Self-harm often still results in death (as opposed to drug overdose or wrist slashing). Categorize them, but don’t omit.

redsox95 New England
11/08/17 9:27 am

What city is safer: NYC or London?

The answer is factually NYC, which has less violent crime.

But gun control advocates ONLY want to point out that the gun violence in NYC is higher.

suppressedID destiny is right now
11/08/17 9:45 am

London has slightly higher rates of violent crime, but massively lower mortality rates.

All in all, I’ll take London’s problem.

redsox95 New England
11/08/17 12:11 pm

Well most of the world disagrees with you as more people want to immigrate to NYC over London.

suppressedID destiny is right now
11/08/17 1:17 pm

Not sure I agree with you, not having your supporting immigration facts. But again, you’re inferring instead of reading: I LOVE New York, but prefer to deal with London’s problem.

RagingMystic covfefe
11/08/17 1:35 pm

And just to point out, comparing London to NYC isn't particularly valid, NYC is one of the safest large cities in the country

suppressedID destiny is right now
11/08/17 8:45 am

Inspired by SOH discussions comparing us to Yemen and Somalia.