Show of HandsShow of Hands

cowboy November 7th, 2017 9:26pm

A time capsule in Russia has been opened. In 1967 they believed that by now we would have landed on Mars and established contacts with alien civilizations and that “your starships have been long prowling the Galaxy” In the next 50 years we will be...

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Uberexciter Tennessee
11/08/17 4:22 am

In the same boat that we are in now. I'm still waiting on those flying cars they were telling us everyone would have now. I guess I'll have to settle for my iPhone and this app.

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Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/07/17 7:34 pm

Asteroid mining will become prevalent within the next two decades at most.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/07/17 6:22 pm

The first enthusiasm was premature due to lack of reliable technology but there's a second push outbound to Mars and the asteroids, backed by both NASA and private enterprise which looks promising.
To the *stars*? Not anytime soon except a probe.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/07/17 6:33 pm

PS: it is certainly amazing they made it to the Moon with 60s technology but even Mars is much more taxing due to the logistics and 7 months journey more than 100 times farther out.

cowboy SCOTUS 2020
11/07/17 6:40 pm

Thanks for the share!

TheBlackKnight Eclipse
11/07/17 4:48 pm

I think people could land on Mars in the next fifty years, but it definitely won’t be settled by then.

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rons screw politicians
11/07/17 3:26 pm

My Pop Sci mag of the 50’s said I’d have my flying car by 1985. Still waiting.

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JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
11/08/17 12:18 am

I heard the 1980 Pinto would jump a few inches off the ground when its gas tank blew up from a mild rear-end collision. That count?

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/17 7:55 pm

Speaking of strange cars, the Russians have never been able to make a decent car or anything else, unless they like the Chinese, steal our technology❗️

rons screw politicians
11/13/17 6:45 am

The Russian Lada was their beauty.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/13/17 6:49 am

The Russian Lada, is about as beautiful as a English Bulldog😂

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/13/17 7:07 am

rons, you want a good laugh🤣❓Check this out.

jalopnik.com

What It’s Like To Drive The Greatest Soviet Car Of All Time

JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
11/07/17 2:37 pm

There’s one thing that’s always baffled me. Since we made this tremendous leap forward in technology and innovation in the 60’s and 70’s by landing men on the moon SIX TIMES, why did we seem to regress with a space shuttle program which never broke low earth orbit?

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mitchman399 Oregon
11/07/17 3:32 pm

A big part of that was public interest. People stopped caring about people landing on the moon so it lost support and the budget was slashed.

JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
11/07/17 4:00 pm

So we start another 30 year program costing $196 billion dollars (adjusted) that never achieved any significant milestones and all while never leaving the confines of earth orbit? Mercury, Gemini and the Apollo missions lasted only 14 years resulting with six manned missions to the moon. And it’s adjusted cost in today’s economy would be $176 billion. The shuttle program never had the popularity that Apollo did and it lasted more than twice as long costing billions more. Why didn’t we concentrate on a Mars mission? It was the next logical step after the remarkable successes of Apollo.

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historylover
11/07/17 4:36 pm

Big stupid government.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/07/17 7:36 pm

Because there’s no actual point to government-owned/operated space travel. It was just done for the sake of blowing money and putting in a public display.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/08/17 8:24 am

Because the Apollo missions took place in a Hollywood studio. NASA is mostly for funneling billions to black ops projects. Heck, even 6 of the 7 Challenger astronauts are still alive.

youtu.be/Zcc7nA6jVr0

mitchman399 Oregon
11/08/17 9:29 am

We've definitely been to the moon. They put a reflective surface in the surface that you can shine a laser at and it will bounce back.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/08/17 9:30 am

Wait, you’ve been there yourself or are you meaning to refer to others?

kscott516 Fact checker
11/08/17 9:42 am

I'd love to hear more about this "reflective surface"

JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
11/08/17 11:02 am

The moon itself is a “reflective surface”. People have been bouncing radio waves off of it since the late 40’s.
And how are you suppose to hit such a small reflector with a small laser on a moving body more than 238,000 miles away?

kscott516 Fact checker
11/08/17 12:00 pm

It may very well have some reflective qualities but it also generates its own light. Temperature readings taken from moonlight show them to be lower than that of temps taken in a shadow at night. Therefore moonlight is cooler than no moonlight. If it were just reflecting the sun's rays, which are warm, moonlight would be warmer than no moonlight.

mitchman399 Oregon
11/08/17 12:47 pm

Math. You use calculations to know where to look. It's not like the moon does anything surprising it tends to follow the same movement.

mitchman399 Oregon
11/08/17 12:53 pm

And no problem. Here's a little overview of it. It's just a Wikipedia article, but you can look up more info about it if you like.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

kscott516 Fact checker
11/08/17 1:28 pm

"At the Moon's surface, the beam is about 6.5 kilometers (4.0 mi) wide[9] and scientists liken the task of aiming the beam to using a rifle to hit a moving dime 3 kilometers (1.9 mi) away. The reflected light is too weak to see with the human eye. Out of 1017 photons aimed at the reflector, only one is received back on Earth every few seconds, even under good conditions."

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

mitchman399 Oregon
11/08/17 4:30 pm

Why isn't that believable? It's pretty incredible. Nobody said it was easy, but it's an exact science. It's not like they are doing this in a backyard somewhere shooting a laser light randomly into space. They have top of the line equipment to guide them as well as mathematics.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/08/17 7:16 pm

"scientists liken the task of aiming the beam to using a rifle to hit a moving dime 3 kilometers (1.9 mi) away."

Read that again. Do you think even the best sharpshooter in the world could accomplish that? No way.

Do you also realize how many 10^17 is? That's 10 followed by 17 Os.
1000000000000000000.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/08/17 7:29 pm

A machine could easily do that using a laser. It’s not much of a stretch at all. Actually, a human could do that with a laser as well. Surveying.

mitchman399 Oregon
11/08/17 11:13 pm

With the proper tools it can easily be accomplished. You know they aren't literally blindly trying to shoot up at a small part of the moon, right? It's not some scientist trying to eyeball it.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 5:16 am

How do you think they accomplish such an incredible feat?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/09/17 5:19 am

Point and click. It’s really not hat incredible at all.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 5:47 am

Point and click? Could you elaborate?

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/09/17 5:55 am

Point at the target (lead it a little bit to account for time), and click to fire the beam of light.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 5:57 am

How are they pointing it at such a tiny target?

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 5:58 am

"scientists liken the task of aiming the beam to using a rifle to hit a moving dime 3 kilometers (1.9 mi) away."

That is their own words and you're saying "it's so simple, point and click."

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/09/17 6:13 am

I can say from personal experience that it is not at all difficult to hit a dime-sized target with a laser from two miles away. There are precision instruments that make it very easy. You aren’t just holding a laser pointer in your hand and pointing.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 6:40 am

"Moving dime". You've never done that. No one on earth has. The earth is supposedly spinning at 1000 mph at the equator and they can hit a retroreflector array smaller than the size of a car apparently 239,000 miles away AND receive the signal back at the same spot. That's nothing short of a miracle.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
11/09/17 7:17 am

The movement is all uniform and constant, which means it’s easily calculable. It’s not like trying to hit a fly or something, haha.

mitchman399 Oregon
11/09/17 9:27 am

Plus it's not some guy holding a laser pointer trying to do it. They have a machine that was built for the purpose of doing this task and being precise.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 10:05 am

I don't know why you keep referring to some guy holding a laser pointer. Don't be crass.

Unfortunately the younger generation thinks everything is just so simple and automatic. In order for something to be automated it has to be programmed. In order to be programmed, someone must have the precise calculations. With a spinning earth, you have to hit a car moving approximately 1000 mph at 239,000 miles away. You have too much faith in the unbelievable.

mitchman399 Oregon
11/09/17 11:07 am

The movement of the Earth and Moon are constant. It's not surprising where it will be. And don't disregard the younger generations because you don't understand how math works.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 2:11 pm

You should consider showing respect for those that have more wisdom, experience, and knowledge instead of thinking you know it all in your ripe, young years. You've been brainwashed, as has everyone, since we were children. Use your common sense that you were given by God, do your own research and introspection to figure out what makes sense logically, and stop believing that a degree makes someone an expert.

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
Nikola Tesla

mitchman399 Oregon
11/09/17 2:43 pm

It's hard to show respect for the wisdom of someone who denies facts.

kscott516 Fact checker
11/09/17 2:55 pm

I don't deny indisputable facts. I question unbelievable stories told to us by the govt and "experts".