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skinner November 7th, 2017 2:34am

Devin Kelley, a mentally ill man who killed 26 Texas churchgoers, passed a background check because the Air Force didn't report his domestic violence. Kelley was shot by bystanders before fleeing the church. Would gun control have stopped the attack?

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
11/07/17 4:52 am

The Air Force following a law already in place, might have prevented it but there are other ways to kill too.

Harry3603 Tampa Bay Florida.
11/07/17 7:07 am

You are right. Like Mac Guyver, I like Swiss Army pocket knives and had 3 confiscated by TSA when I had out of state work.

citethesource Socialist and Atheist
11/06/17 10:12 pm

We have speed limits and requirements for wearing seatbelts. We have regulations regarding safety standards for cars. We require training and continued certification.

Yet every year we have tens of thousands of deaths from car accidents.

Should we repeal every single law regarding car safety because the laws aren’t ever going to be 100%?

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BlackC
11/06/17 9:56 pm

Ban all military grade weapons and magazines larger than 6 and no 50 cal

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knetzere Illinois
11/07/17 7:18 am

When was the last time a 50 was used in the commission of a crime?

BlackC
11/07/17 10:15 am

Same as your fear the black helicopters are coming to take your guns. It’s just a matter of time

knetzere Illinois
11/07/17 1:30 pm

So what you are saying is we should ban something because it’s Big an Scary despite its nonexistent presence in crime and thus will have no effect on crime but will make you feel better?

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 8:50 pm

This simply shows that the left is impotent. The Air Force is a part of the government. There is a 1995 law that requires them to disclose the domestic violence conviction, yet it appears that government incompetence was the reason it didn’t get reported. No additional background checks are required. When the government can’t properly gather and use the information already provided to prevent sick individuals from getting a weapon, the answer DEFINITELY can not be more government controls.

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missmorganmarie ...
11/06/17 8:14 pm

looks like the air force has a lawsuit on their hands

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gonzoboy Arizona
11/06/17 7:56 pm

Gun control would not have stopped a wanton, motivated killer, nor may it ever. What gun control *might* have done, was prevent a Good Samaritan from possessing a gun that was instrumental in neutralizing the threat! What a great shot!...😃

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citethesource Socialist and Atheist
11/06/17 10:13 pm

Yes, because the Good Samaritan with the gun in this case was extremely effective at stopping the murder of over two dozen people.

Gun fetishists can all go fuck themselves.

citethesource Socialist and Atheist
11/06/17 10:14 pm

Oh god. I didn’t notice the sarcasm until after I posted. I do apologize.

LibArtie SW Connecticut
11/06/17 7:49 pm

Of course. No gun, no deaths by bullets.

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Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 8:52 pm

Artie .. naive little Artie ... no guns mean creative homicidial scum will use knives bombs, cars or even gasoline to inflict their pain.

The incompetence of the government makes most stable people realize that more government control is never the answer. For leftists, well, there’s little hope for enlightenment.

skinner Wisconsin
11/06/17 7:42 pm

Yes, he was pursued by bystanders in a car chase where they apparently exceeded 95 miles per hour. Kelley lost control and crashed. When authorities found him they noticed that he was shot in the leg and torso by the "good Samaritan" and concluded that Kelley had killed himself with a fatal gunshot to the head.

citethesource Socialist and Atheist
11/06/17 10:17 pm

So the “Good Samaritans” put others in public at direct risk due to their high speed chase.

We don’t get to chase criminals and gun them down in the streets. We have trained law enforcement to deal with criminal threats.

I’m just glad no one was hurt by these wannabe cowboys.

ComradeJames nationalism
11/06/17 7:39 pm

Nope. You know why? The military doesn't give a flying fuck about white, mentally ill murderers. A lot of the military is comprised of white, mentally ill murderers.

doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
11/06/17 7:41 pm

You're a real piece of work, comrade. A really shitty piece of work.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 8:54 pm

Comrade ... it’s your ignorant bigotry that keeps our country divided.

Think Lovin Life
11/07/17 6:44 am

Comrade ... your contempt for what’s best for our country is noted.

skinner Wisconsin
11/06/17 7:36 pm

Texas Governor Greg Abbot has told the media that Kelley was denied a permit by the State of Texas and called for an investigation into how he purchased the Ruger AR-15 he used in the crime. The attack may have been related to a dispute Kelley was having with his mother-in-law, who attends the First Baptist Church that he targeted, but she was not attending church services that day. Those who know Kelley describe him as a loner and an avid atheist who would frequently practice with his firearms. On LinkedIn, Kelley described his interests as animal welfare, art and culture, and children and civil rights. Ironically, in August 2014 he was brought to court on charges of mistreating, neglecting, or being cruel to animals that were eventually dismissed. He killed between 12 and 14 children and a pregnant woman during his rampage on Sunday.

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Sentinel Ya ie wa noh
11/06/17 8:14 pm

A piece I read stated, Kelly lied on the FFL paperwork and used a local address, even though he did not live there, furthering his deception and the evil he was about to perpetuate.....one armed and trained citizen may have changed the tide and may have saved many more of those 26 poor spirits lost in this senseless attack on the innocent.....

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 8:55 pm

Once again we learn that the incompetence of government is never the answer to protect ourselves.

citethesource Socialist and Atheist
11/06/17 10:18 pm

He was able to buy the gun because authorities don’t give a fuck about gun laws here in Texas.