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Praetorianus November 7th, 2017 1:31am

A popular sticker spells out the word "coexist" in symbols for major religions and worldviews, including secularism. Do you think peaceful coexistence between all worldviews is a goal worth striving for?

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Domino3 Abolish the ATF
11/07/17 2:44 pm

I had one of these stickers but it said Eat A Dick.

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historylover
11/07/17 8:17 am

Every time I see that bumper sticker, I laugh and try to imagine the poor delusional soul smoking weed and drifting off to LaLa Land.

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Harry3603 Tampa Bay Florida.
11/07/17 8:06 am

Yes, but it is only a goal and will never happen.

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FarmerManE djent
11/07/17 6:06 am

No. Its never going to happen. Religious based conflict has existed forever, and theres nothing that is going to stop it.
You can kill a person. You can kill a whole group of people. But you can't kill an ideology

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historylover
11/07/17 8:19 am

And all types of other conflict because humans inhabit the earth.

ZaQ777 Pittsburgh
11/07/17 5:10 am

I have an issue with accepting ignorance, but as long as everyone is peaceful, I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing.

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TheSpookyGhost paleoconservative
11/07/17 4:02 am

Coexist in the same world, perhaps, but certainly not in the same nation.

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 11:22 pm

It's an overly idealistic goal with no foundation in reality. We can't coexist with suicide bombers and other violent extremists.

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Carcano Luke 10 19
11/06/17 11:19 pm

It's an unrealistic ideal.

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Carcano Luke 10 19
11/06/17 11:20 pm

The only way to peacefully coexist, in my opinion, is through separation. These world-views cannot coexist within the same society unless the minority groups are very small.

orgblu10 Shamerica
11/06/17 9:48 pm

Worth striving for, sure. But to express it the way that bumper sticker does is to imply that all religions are equally true and valid, and that serving any of their "gods" is equivalent to serving God. That premise is one I wholeheartedly reject. I can endorse the goal, but wish the artist would have conveyed the message using different symbolism.

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lightsabr2 The Wild Blue Yonder
11/06/17 10:24 pm

Well said. 👏👏

sea California
11/06/17 8:55 pm

I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said “contradict” in all the religious symbols.

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sea California
11/07/17 8:46 am

Yeah it was different for sure

4boot LaTrineodeur, MN
11/06/17 8:28 pm

No, I believe in having realistic goals.

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
11/06/17 8:13 pm

No. You can sing John Lennon’s “Imagine“ until you’re blue in the face, but if you unite all the world‘s religions and philosophies, you will dilute them all beyond recognition and effectiveness. Diversity can be a good thing, because at least it respects the freedom of each religion to be wholly, uniquely itself. One of the worst things to happen to the Protestant church in the last half-century was COCU, the Consultation On Church Union. It produced such abominations as the “inclusive language“ movement, which altered hymns and Scriptures to meet PC requirements. Sometimes the best-laid plans...

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DallasFan
11/06/17 8:16 pm

I don’t think you know what the word “coexist” means. Coexist means there can be this diversity you’re worried about leaving, they just don’t kill each other over the differences.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/06/17 8:36 pm

Nowhere did I say unite or create a mishmash like the New Age movement tries.
Tom, you didn't get the question.

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
11/06/17 9:14 pm

I did, Praet; I’m just looking to its logical conclusion. “Tolerance” is now a code word for endorsement. And Christianity and secularism can NEVER coëxist.

CoffeeNow CandybarThiefLivesMatter
11/06/17 8:08 pm

Sure

And that bumper sticker is not doing shit

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MrsCrayonWax
11/07/17 7:48 am

There now. Love makes the world go round.

MrsCrayonWax
11/07/17 7:49 am

Unless you believe In flat earth.

CoffeeNow CandybarThiefLivesMatter
11/07/17 12:43 pm

Love is a two way street though. To me it’s silly to think humans will ever achieve this utopia. We have no evidence for it in our history

CoffeeNow CandybarThiefLivesMatter
11/07/17 12:43 pm

And I don’t mean pockets of it, I mean everyone

MrsCrayonWax
11/07/17 12:57 pm

I don’t believe it’s possible either. It’s the nature of man to survive at all costs.

CoffeeNow CandybarThiefLivesMatter
11/07/17 1:19 pm

Someone once told me it’s just a function of economics, scarcity in particular. But I don’t even think that’s true. I think you could magically (and it’d have to be magic) make everyone wealthy and want for nothing, and there would still be wars

MrsCrayonWax
11/07/17 1:20 pm

Absolutely. I hear this argument (and this is its most simplistic form) when making children equal by giving them uniforms but the caste system still evolves. People find a way to subculture the shut out of themselves.

DJ13
11/06/17 7:53 pm

Those that believe world peace isn't worth striving for are the very ones that will prevent it from ever happening.....

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geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/06/17 7:44 pm

Sounds good to me. Now if we could just get everyone to agree that it is a good goal...

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PrinceOberyn Io Himeros
11/06/17 7:31 pm

I'd prefer the extinction of religion, but yeah...no...I'm not the kumbaya type and those coexist stickers irritate me.

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Finny Conservative Lesbian
11/06/17 7:11 pm

This is probably controversial, but I think the idea of peace in terms of world view infers that all world views are equal in merit and morality, which I believe is false.

I also think peace in terms of acceptance of all worldview will destroy intellectual diversity and freedom of speech in the way it challenges others.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/06/17 7:30 pm

Tolerance /= acceptance.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
11/06/17 7:01 pm

You really can’t expect to be left to enjoy your own beliefs and worldview (despite them being clearly superior to anyone else's) if you don’t leave them to enjoy their beliefs and worldview (which are clearly superior to anyone else's, including yours). Peaceful coexistence is optimal and easy, until someone decides just believing what they do isn’t enough, and demands someone (anyone) else believe it too, or act as if they do. At which point the peace and incentive to preserve it have ended.

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doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
11/06/17 6:50 pm

No, why be "peaceful" with murderers who pray and cheer in parades about killing us?

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/06/17 7:28 pm

I was thinking about starkly different worldviews.
Damn straight you don't have to tolerate politically or religiously motivated terrorism but why not a view you strongly disagree with?

xxxceo Still Deplorable
11/06/17 6:48 pm

I don’t make goals that are impossible to achieve, so no.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/06/17 6:50 pm

It's the same with ideals and this is one.
Just bc it cannot be reached doesn't mean it's futile to get as close as possible.

xxxceo Still Deplorable
11/06/17 6:54 pm

Which ideals? Some things can be won, this isn’t one of them.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/06/17 7:25 pm

Let's say you are a decent chess player. Ideally, you want to be world champion but know this goes way past your skills.
So do you give up chess or try to win a regional tournament?

xxxceo Still Deplorable
11/06/17 7:35 pm

Is my goal only to be a world champ and not to have fun, be a regional champ, etc?
If so, then yes, I should prioritize my time towards things I can achieve.
If not, meaning I also enjoy the game, then I should keep playing but obviously then my goal has changed.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/06/17 6:37 pm

Definitely worth striving for but I have no illusions about its attainability.
Fanaticism, not even tolerating other views (you don't have to embrace them) is imo one of the biggest human faults.

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
11/06/17 6:34 pm

Yes. Is it possible? No

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chinito Florida
11/06/17 10:20 pm

I disagree. It is possible

RussianThunder Russia and USA
11/07/17 4:24 am

I wish it were and hope you are right