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political November 6th, 2017 4:31pm

Christians: “God chose people for salvation based on His foreknowledge where God looks into the future to see who would respond to the gospel message.”

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Carcano Luke 10 19
11/06/17 11:01 pm

That wouldn't make any sense. Why would we be put on Earth in the first place if this was the case?

Life is a test, and we have free will.

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
11/06/17 8:41 pm

Foreknowledge doesn’t mean that God suspends our free will to make our choice for us. It just means that God has always known how WE will respond to His offer of Salvation through the Blood of Christ. ✟

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mac238 Ohio
11/06/17 4:27 pm

I said yes so the app would increase my likeness to Christianity but I just learned about predestination and I say no

WaffleBrainz Indiana
11/06/17 1:20 pm

predestination is very flawed

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political Georgia
11/06/17 1:23 pm

Predestination is not flawed, but this statement is a rebuttal to Calvinist’s unconditional Election.

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
11/06/17 1:15 pm

I was reading about the points earlier while in the library. I don’t understand this concept of Arminian theology, this sounds extremely Calvinistic

political Georgia
11/06/17 1:22 pm

Calvinists, like myself, would fully oppose this statement because we don’t believe that God has to look through time to see if someone believes in God. Instead, we say that God foreknows who believes because he predestines who he regenerates.

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
11/06/17 1:24 pm

What would be the purpose of a god creating us simply to have his elect already chosen and the rest damned?

political Georgia
11/06/17 1:26 pm

I️ don’t think the purpose of Him creating people is going to vary from theological interpretations. He created people for His purpose.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
11/06/17 11:00 am

Disagree. God knows, but that doesn't mean predetermined because we do have free will

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political Georgia
11/06/17 11:13 am

I believe your explanation would lean more toward agreement.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
11/06/17 11:37 am

Just because God knows doesn't mean God decided.

xtarite
11/06/17 11:38 am

No, the questions is asking whether GOD only offers salvation to people who would accept. GOD knows, but he still requests it either way

political Georgia
11/06/17 11:39 am

Answering agree means that you believe that man chooses to accept or reject eternal salvation.

xtarite
11/06/17 11:41 am

No, it doesnt. See my past comment

political Georgia
11/06/17 11:45 am

Are you familiar with Arminianism? If not, I would ask that you look it up. That’s a faster explanation than what I can supply at the moment. I’ll check back in later.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
11/06/17 11:48 am

Well yes we do decide if we accept it or not. That doesn't guarantee it will be given, but we do need to accept it.

Calvinist Amsterdam NL
11/06/17 10:53 am

@Political "single" or double predestination?

political Georgia
11/06/17 11:11 am

It depends on what you mean by double predestination. I do not believe that God elects anyone to Hell. Instead, He leaves people in their unregenerate State. He does elect people to eternal salvation by saving people totally from their own sinful totally depraved state. Some misinterpret Romans 9:20-24 to effectively make God the author of sin when in reality Jeremiah shows that He hardens hearts by abandonment. You can see the same evidence in Romans 1.

Calvinist Amsterdam NL
11/08/17 4:26 pm

I believe by choosing people He also not chooses the folks He doesn't choose. Therefore double predestination.

political Georgia
11/08/17 8:10 pm

We must be careful to ensure that God leaves people in their totally depraved nature. We must not say that God predestined this nature, which then you run into God becoming the author of sin.

Calvinist Amsterdam NL
11/06/17 10:44 am

I clicked disagree because then people would be saved by grace through faith + "would be willingness"

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 10:12 am

Sounds like predestination, which I do not believe in.

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political Georgia
11/06/17 10:16 am

It’s the opposite of predestination. Predestination means that God chose individuals unconditionally according to his will. This poll is the second point of Arminianism, which describes conditional election. The key difference is that Arminians believe that God looks through time to see who will believe in Christ, and as a result, elects those people to eternal salvation.

Finny Conservative Lesbian
11/06/17 10:08 am

God gives everyone the choice to respond. He's given us free will, but he gives us all opportunity to seek and find the message/ salvation

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conman1776 Utah
11/06/17 9:57 am

It sounds too much like pre destiny

political Georgia
11/06/17 10:03 am

It’s actually the opposite of predestination.

Okie1967 Defend the Police
11/06/17 9:40 am

No. Bad and unsupported theology. Such thinking has serious consequences.

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political Georgia
11/06/17 9:34 am

I predict 78% agreement with this poll. I selected “disagree” because I affirm unconditional Election.

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political Georgia
11/06/17 9:41 am

Woah...y’all are so unpredictable. My prediction is going to be way off.

MrAmerica America First
11/06/17 10:11 am

Have you ever thought about applying for a job at fivethirtyeight.com ?

political Georgia
11/06/17 10:16 am

Ha! I’m about as bad at predictions as they are!

political Georgia
11/06/17 10:18 am

But really, more people probably agree with this poll than what they realize. Most Churches will teach some form of election, and their beliefs fit closely with this poll. This is just not a topic that many preachers preach on thoughZ

Calvinist Amsterdam NL
11/06/17 10:45 am

Yes, this would conditional election

Calvinist Amsterdam NL
11/06/17 10:50 am

Most people think this is predestination/election. And God choosing instead of us sounds very unarminian

political Georgia
11/06/17 11:13 am

Yeah - this is the opposite of predestination.