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Predestination is not flawed, but this statement is a rebuttal to Calvinist’s unconditional Election.

Calvinists, like myself, would fully oppose this statement because we don’t believe that God has to look through time to see if someone believes in God. Instead, we say that God foreknows who believes because he predestines who he regenerates.

What would be the purpose of a god creating us simply to have his elect already chosen and the rest damned?

I️ don’t think the purpose of Him creating people is going to vary from theological interpretations. He created people for His purpose.

I believe your explanation would lean more toward agreement.

Just because God knows doesn't mean God decided.

No, the questions is asking whether GOD only offers salvation to people who would accept. GOD knows, but he still requests it either way

Answering agree means that you believe that man chooses to accept or reject eternal salvation.

No, it doesnt. See my past comment

Are you familiar with Arminianism? If not, I would ask that you look it up. That’s a faster explanation than what I can supply at the moment. I’ll check back in later.

carm.org/dictionary-five-points-arminianism

Well yes we do decide if we accept it or not. That doesn't guarantee it will be given, but we do need to accept it.

It depends on what you mean by double predestination. I do not believe that God elects anyone to Hell. Instead, He leaves people in their unregenerate State. He does elect people to eternal salvation by saving people totally from their own sinful totally depraved state. Some misinterpret Romans 9:20-24 to effectively make God the author of sin when in reality Jeremiah shows that He hardens hearts by abandonment. You can see the same evidence in Romans 1.

I believe by choosing people He also not chooses the folks He doesn't choose. Therefore double predestination.

We must be careful to ensure that God leaves people in their totally depraved nature. We must not say that God predestined this nature, which then you run into God becoming the author of sin.

It’s the opposite of predestination. Predestination means that God chose individuals unconditionally according to his will. This poll is the second point of Arminianism, which describes conditional election. The key difference is that Arminians believe that God looks through time to see who will believe in Christ, and as a result, elects those people to eternal salvation.

It’s actually the opposite of predestination.

Woah...y’all are so unpredictable. My prediction is going to be way off.

Have you ever thought about applying for a job at fivethirtyeight.com ?

Ha! I’m about as bad at predictions as they are!

But really, more people probably agree with this poll than what they realize. Most Churches will teach some form of election, and their beliefs fit closely with this poll. This is just not a topic that many preachers preach on thoughZ

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Yes, this would conditional election

Most people think this is predestination/election. And God choosing instead of us sounds very unarminian

Yeah - this is the opposite of predestination.