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Think November 6th, 2017 2:40pm

Are Democrat lies about the proposed GOP tax cut plan justifiable? If so, please explain.

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
11/08/17 12:07 am

Even the Washington Compost says the Dems are overboard on the lies!

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/07/17 11:17 am

No, but with all the other DemLib lies🤥, it’s what we all have come to expect !

Harry3603 Tampa Bay Florida.
11/06/17 10:02 pm

No. It's their usual fear tactics! They do this all of the time, and then add insult to injury by accusing the Republicans of employing fear tactics.

jstahl Build that wall
11/06/17 4:02 pm

Same old predictable playbook. Yawn.

11/06/17 3:40 pm

Lol. I see what you did there. Lol

abusara i drink and i know things
11/06/17 3:35 pm

This isn't rocket surgery. Democrat lies are no more defensible than Republican lies are.

bower8899 ...
11/06/17 10:20 am

There are plenty of terrible things to attack about it without making shit up. Dems, what are you doing

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 10:24 am

Bower ... FINALLY, we can agree on something. Thank you for your honesty!

As you can see from the demographics of this poll and the comments from leftists here, most of them do NOT agree with you! They’re just blindly triggered by the truth of the question. They allow their emotions to cloud their responses.

BadSeed Oregon
11/06/17 9:53 am

Calling the facts "Lies" shows your bias. The GOP is the party of lies.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 10:25 am

Alien ... thanks for confirming that you didn’t follow the link that clearly exposes the lies of the Democrats. It’s clear that the truth is an insignificant thing to you. Simply tow that party line, little lemmings!

11/06/17 9:05 am

It’s what they do.

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 8:35 am

Isn’t great to have a Republican base in SOH! Your poll is so fair and balanced. Lying Democrats. I love ya Think, your so one sided. I think the answer is that the new tax bill has some good things and bad things in it. It will depend on what tax bracket your in and what deductions you did take and don’t take. Trickle down economics has been proven over and over not to work. Taking away the deduction on student loans is a bad thing as it will discourage some students they can’t afford a loan for education. Less tax brackets will help some and not others. The National debt as of now, will probably increase by over a trillion dollars. Oh yea, the jobs created and the additional pay companies will pay workers will eliminate the national debt. I know you love the smell of those Trump farts. In summary, I think it will pass, but their will be a lot of arguing and the bill as it is now will probably change before it is passed.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 9:08 am

Harry ... whatever you do, do NOT read the article that I posted with the poll that totally exposes the lying Democrat. The fact that the Democrats lies is not in dispute. You’d know that if you’d read the article.

I get that your nose got bent out of shape by the harsh facts, but the truth is that the facts don’t care about your feelings.

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 9:19 am

I read your article and I can find ten articles that say your article is bullshit. You attach something that proves your point and we are all supposed to think that is the last word. Get a life. We won’t know anything until the bill is in it’s final form, since the Republican’s keep changing it.

From the internet:
A new analysis estimates that Trump's tax plan could actually raise the tax burden on millions of low- and middle-income families.
The analysis was done by Lily Batchelder, who formerly served as deputy director of President Obama's National Economic Council and Majority chief tax counsel for the Senate Finance Committee under former Sen. Max Baucus.
And the conservative Tax Foundation said it replicated many of Batchelder's numbers and found her conclusions to be "reasonable."

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 9:27 am

Harry ... you don’t get your own facts. I’m not talking about the viability of the GOP tax plan, or any other distraction you might attempt to excuse the lies or the Democrats. Please try to focus on the facts discussed in this poll. The Democrats lied about this point. That point is not in question — except in your mind.

So, answer the question asked, not the question you want to have had asked!

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 9:31 am

OK The Republican’s lied too. So what’s new. If you took your head out of Trump’s backside, you might see the real world.

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 9:33 am

Didn’t you read my absolutely true facts?

From the internet:
A new analysis estimates that Trump's tax plan could actually raise the tax burden on millions of low- and middle-income families.
The analysis was done by Lily Batchelder, who formerly served as deputy director of President Obama's National Economic Council and Majority chief tax counsel for the Senate Finance Committee under former Sen. Max Baucus.
And the conservative Tax Foundation said it replicated many of Batchelder's numbers and found her conclusions to be "reasonable."

Who’s lying?

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 10:09 am

Harry ... take a breath as both of your desperate posts are laughable.
1. The “Republicans lie too” argument is one expected from a five year old, and solves nothing.
2. The “nu uh” defense only shows that you didn’t read the article that I posted with the poll. Here’s a mulligan, please find a quiet place and read the article. The notion that Democrats lied is not up for debate. They lied. Period.

Now address the poll question instead of your silly trigger!

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 10:28 am

You have no idea if they lied until the facts are in.
If your really worried how people understand what your poll is asking, why don’t you include the answers?
You seem to be the only one brilliant enough to understand what your poll is asking 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 10:50 am

Harry ... calm down! I get that your tiny world is threatened by the facts, but you may end up growing from this experience.

The facts are clear! Democrats lied about the proposed plan. They didn’t lie about the bill that will eventually pass, they lied about the current proposal. That fact is not in dispute. Again, I get that you can’t allow yourself to read the article, but if you did, even you would see the lie.

Have a better day!

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 10:57 am

Well if you just wanted a “YES”. You should have put “YES” in both answers below the poll question. Then I would have voted “YES”.
You make it so difficult.

rons Thanks America
11/06/17 11:00 am

Is trickle down economics where a business makes huge investments and hires workers. The people or person that started the business works endless hours on business plans, sales, marketing, accounting to get the business going. Is the trickle down the part where he pays people to create the product, sell, distribute? Maybe I don’t understand why it’s so bad. When GM was going bankrupt why didn’t the Union just buy it out and run the whole operation as a union shop. Everybody punched in and punched out after their shift.

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 11:23 am

See the stock market, companies have never been making more money than ever.
Where’s the hiring? When’s the pay raises?

rons Thanks America
11/06/17 11:27 am

The price of a stock is not the indicator earnings are or for investors the ROI.

rons Thanks America
11/06/17 11:31 am

But none describes you vision of trickle down. Let’s say you invented a new parts making machine for the auto industry. You need investors like in shark tank to help you start the plant. How do you make that happen with Trickle Up?

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 12:37 pm

Harry ... read the article, if you dare! It’ll clear up your confusion.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 12:39 pm

Harry ... as for your confusion over the poll question answers, the one on the left labeled “Yes” actually means yes. I hope this clears that part of your confusion for you ... just saying.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/07/17 11:25 am

Think, just another DemLibLeftist😫, “butthurt alert”😩, like constipation, this too shall pass❗️

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 7:50 am

Lying through one's teeth is never justifiable.

rons Thanks America
11/06/17 7:49 am

I have a problem believing anyone. Both side are over the top accusers.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 8:18 am

Ron ... you know that I love most of what you say, but suggesting that “everybody’s doing it” never solves the problem and never excuses the fault.

We must remain vigilant and cal out the lies when they occur. Your position is the one that encourages more lies from all sides. The fear of being held accountable is the only thing that keeps our elected numbskulls close to the right path.

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 10:36 am

Wow, 85% agree with you! Shocking 😱

rons Thanks America
11/06/17 10:52 am

Think, OK, I’ll make sure I have a fact before making a general statement. I want to be fair. Thanks for the feedback.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 12:41 pm

Harry ... and then there are those 15% who just can’t accept the truth ... imagine that!

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 2:00 pm

Taxes would rise for many in working class and fall for richest Americans under House GOP tax plan, analysis shows
House Republicans’ bill would increase taxes for 12 percent of Americans next year, according to a new report from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. By 2027, 28 percent of Americans would see their taxes rise, the report says.
Most Americans earning between $49,000 and $86,000 would get a tax cut next year, but the biggest benefits would go to the very rich, the report said. This is a developing story. It will be updated.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 2:13 pm

Harry ... that wasn’t the question, now was it!

JustHarry FL
11/06/17 2:26 pm

No! No! It was an answer to your statement. The Washington Post proves that the Democrats don’t lie! 😜

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 2:32 pm

Harry ... I’ll give you one more chance ... read the article I posted and we can continue the discussion about the topic of the poll. If you refuse, and continue to maintain your delusion about Democrats then we’re done.

polster2 US
11/06/17 7:43 am

The Republicans are using chained CPI in their tax plan rather than regular CPI, which will generate $158 billion in new tax revenue over the next decade. It’s a hidden tax that nobody can see. Even right-wing news sites are reporting on this.

11/06/17 7:59 am

Does that make it a problem if it gets the same result?

polster2 US
11/06/17 8:02 am

What “result” are you referring to?

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 8:15 am

Polster ... nice attempt to change the subject. You didn’t read the article, did you!

I never suggested that the bill was perfect, but chained CPI was not what the lies were about! It’s time for you to do a little research before attempting to perpetuate the Democrat lies!

11/06/17 8:27 am

Pollster - which lies do YOU favor?

polster2 US
11/06/17 9:14 am

I know that’s not what the lies were about. Just making sure you understand that this tax plan isn’t a silver bullet.

think4yourself Not a safe space
11/06/17 10:10 am

There is no silver bullet tax plan that can get passed. It is better to settle on something that moves us forward and is a net gain.

Think Lovin Life
11/06/17 10:26 am

Polster ... did the poll question assert that the GOP tax plan was a silver bullet, or are you just trying to escape your silly distractions?

Think Lovin Life
11/14/17 11:08 pm

Polster ... did you get lost on the way to answering the question?