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gluxford1 November 6th, 2017 2:38pm

Following yesterday's massacre in a Texas church, Comedian Chelsea Handler took to Twitter to blame Republicans for the deadly attack. Who do you blame for the shooter's actions?

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cowboy nothing else matters
11/07/17 6:58 am

Hateful, God hating Communists and the retarded Republicans that sit back while Rand Paul gets attacked. Fucking pussies. This is a Civil War the Communists started. WAKE UP!

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polster2 US
11/07/17 3:11 am

Would the shooter have had access to a gun if the NRA didn’t pay Republicans to oppose gun control?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 4:04 am

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polster2 US
11/07/17 4:53 am

So we shouldn’t have any laws then?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 5:15 am

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polster2 US
11/07/17 5:16 am

You didn’t answer my question.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 5:19 am

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polster2 US
11/07/17 5:20 am

You still haven’t answered my question.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 5:23 am

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polster2 US
11/07/17 5:23 am

You still haven’t answered my question.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 6:48 am

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polster2 US
11/07/17 6:50 am

So why do we have laws in the first place if some people are just going to break them?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 6:53 am

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Harry3603 Tampa Bay Florida.
11/06/17 9:58 pm

Chelsea Handler is a highly paid fool!

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susanr Colorado
11/06/17 6:03 pm

For his actions? The shooter. Duh.

For the fact that he owned a gun? Looks like there was a bit of a failure on the Air Force's part, in that some crucial information about the nature of his military conviction and discharge was not entered in the proper database, resulting in his passing a background check when he shouldn't have. (This article also questions whether even the right data would have prevented it, since there is some confusion about wording.) www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/06/562320017/the-texas-church-shooter-should-have-been-legally-barred-from-owning-guns

However, we know that there are other ways to get a gun, even if you've been convicted of domestic violence including smashing the skull of your baby stepson.

So some clerk in the Air Force had a part in it, and somebody who wrote regulations should be slapped silly, but seriously, what law that Republicans haven't passed would have prevented this?

If you know of one, please tell me.

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Carcano Fir Na Dli
11/06/17 11:45 pm

Why do we need to assign blame for him owning a gun? Plenty of people own guns and don't go on shooting rampages. If he couldn't get a gun he would have just used a car.

jstahl Build that wall
11/06/17 4:04 pm

If it wasn't for a good guy with a gun, the madman with a gun would have killed a lot more people.

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bluerum29 optimistic idealist
11/06/17 3:45 pm

2 things are to blame, the shooter and society as a whole. The only true way to prevent these things is to prevent people from becoming so isolated and alone tgat they go this route

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abusara i drink and i know things
11/06/17 3:36 pm

Never heard of Chelsea Handler until butt hurt snowflakes started whining about her.

doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
11/06/17 1:21 pm

Chelsea handler.πŸ‘Ώ

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:26 am

Because criminals totally follow laws.

MrEdwin Mystery
11/06/17 9:27 am

yEs Of CoUrsE

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:29 am

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smart1
11/06/17 8:57 am

Time to break out the handy "Mass shooting checklist":

1. Send thoughts & prayers but don't actually do anything useful. βœ”

2. Argue over semantics of the term "assault rifle." βœ”

3. Argue over semantics of the term "terrorist" - if Muslim use it, if Christian/white use terms "lone wolf," "mentally ill," "troubled past." βœ”

4. Congress does nothing and the NRA increases donations just in case. βœ”

5. Wait for next one, rinse, and repeatβœ”

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Louderthebetter
11/06/17 9:11 am

That’s well said Smart, I’m over itπŸ˜πŸ”«
What’s happening to our country is extremely sad and pathetic.

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:26 am

Nice dodging, you two. But you still haven't answered the question. πŸ˜‰

smart1
11/06/17 9:28 am

There shouldn't even be a question.

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:29 am

Clearly there should be or else you wouldn't be this afraid to answer it.

smart1
11/06/17 9:31 am

Afraid? Not falling for your juvenile trolling. Bye.

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:32 am

You're still dodging....

Robert97206 Portland Oregon
11/06/17 9:48 am

Ya so maybe just maybe we can do something about memtal health....

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 9:52 am

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Robert97206 Portland Oregon
11/06/17 10:20 am

Glux whats this dodging you speak of?

Do you mean deflection?

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
11/06/17 8:51 am

And I bet you blame Muslims for terrorists too

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 8:55 am

No, I blame the terrorists for terrorist attacks.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
11/06/17 9:11 am

So, you take back your support for banning Muslim immigration?

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:25 am

I support ending immigration altogether for at least 30 years, not just Muslims. Nice try though.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
11/06/17 9:33 am

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ even worse!

Either way, you hate Islam, and it's illogical.

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:36 am

Still incorrect πŸ˜‚

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
11/06/17 9:45 am

Then you're contradicting everything you've said before on the subject

WaffleBrainz Indiana
11/06/17 8:42 am

screw you, dems.

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jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
11/06/17 8:34 am

The shooter for the actions, Republicans for not taking action to prevent something like this.

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 8:35 am

I'm assuming that you are speaking of the GOP's opposition to gun control. Am I correct?

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 8:40 am

If so, no gun control law would have prevented this shooting. The killer in this case wasn't allowed to own weapons due to prior offenses. They were illegal guns. In case you weren't aware, criminals don't follow laws. So, you basically just used the corpses of the victims as a bully pulpit to advance your left-wing political agenda of restricting the second amendment rights of law-abiding Americans even though your argument lies on shaky ground. You also have shamelessly used the bloodshed as an excuse to attack the political party you oppose. Just like Chelsea Handler. Sad.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 9:21 am

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/06/17 9:37 am

Actually glux, from what I read it was a legally purchased gun, where the guy lied about his dishonorable discharge on the application. This a case of a faulty background check. This is in fact a gun control related issue

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:38 am

Did you read that on Salon.com?

gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 9:39 am

And even if he did, why does it shock you that a criminal would lie and not follow the law? You are inadvertently revealing the faulty logic of gun control laws.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 9:40 am

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MrEdwin Mystery
11/06/17 9:42 am

You just answer questions, right Nem?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 9:50 am

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/06/17 9:55 am

Actually, you do fill out a form, form 4473.
And, the fact that this guy legally bought a gun despite a criminal record of dishonorable discharge and assault to his wife shows the faultiness of our current system, which proves my point.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 10:01 am

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/06/17 10:06 am

Actually you can, but even if you are right, then explain how this guy and Dylan Roof bought their guns? Both were legally purchased. The Texas shooting bought his at a sporting goods store.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 10:14 am

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/06/17 10:32 am

The information was released by the Texas governor and law enforcement officials and the Texas department of Public Safety:
Source: www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2017/11/06/texas-church-shooting-suspect-devin-kelley-denied-gun-license-governor-says/amp/

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 10:34 am

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/06/17 10:41 am

I never mentioned a license. The source above is to show that government officials already released information on where it was purchased and whether it was legally purchased, and how.
The license thing is a quote by the governor. I’m not familiar with Texas license laws, beyond that you need one to carry. Anyway, the government must be on something if you’re right.

susanr Colorado
11/06/17 5:55 pm

According to this article, he did legitimately (according to available data on him) pass the background check (although there *was* info that *should* have been available that would have prevented his passing it). He did *not* have a dishonorable discharge; it was "punitive," which did not in itself disqualify him from owning a gun. Details of his military conviction *should* have prevented him from owning a gun, but (according to this and numerous other things I've seen this afternoon) apparently the Air Force didn't enter the appropriate information in a database that should have triggered that conclusion. And also (according to this article) there is enough confusion in wording that it might well have been missed anyway.

www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/06/562320017/the-texas-church-shooter-should-have-been-legally-barred-from-owning-guns

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/06/17 6:12 pm

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
11/06/17 6:51 pm

Nemacyst can’t handle being wrong.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/07/17 4:03 am

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rons on top of the world MA
11/06/17 7:55 am

#resist was the catalyst.

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gluxford1 Arizona
11/06/17 7:41 am

The shooter is to blame for yesterday's massacre. Chelsea Handler's decision to use the bloodshed as an excuse to bash those whom she disagrees with politically is both shameful and in incredibly poor taste.

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