A guy with a dishonorable discharge obtained several firearms and killed 26 people in Texas. A dishonorable discharge appears on a NICS background check and stops a transfer. Did background checks work to stop this shooting?
A dishonorable discharge could mean lots of things. There’s not just one thing that you do to receive that mark on your records. And why is a dishonorable discharge on a background check anyway? It should only be on there if what he did was bad enough to not qualify to purchase a gun. I know felons can’t buy but I think the guy who evades taxes and gets a felony is way different than a killer or someone who has committed assault or rape.
He got the guns illegally so yes background checks did work because he did try but before that and was denied
Reread the question. I understand your point, but you didn't answer the question.
Time to break out the handy "Mass shooting checklist":
1. Send thoughts & prayers but don't actually do anything useful. ✔
2. Argue over semantics of the term "assault rifle." ✔
3. Argue over semantics of the term "terrorist" - if Muslim use it, if Christian/white use terms "lone wolf," "mentally ill," "troubled past." ✔
4. Congress does nothing and the NRA increases donations just in case. ✔
5. Wait for next one, rinse, and repeat✔
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This shooting was about a domestic situation, but don't let that stop you from pushing the antifa lie.
Nice link to nothing. Are the Russians paying you to perpetuate these lies or are you just a useful idiot?
As I suspected, you're just a useful idiot.
The report I saw this morning said the weapons were purchased legally by someone else ... so I guess the TX shooter must have gotten them at Midnight Gun Sales, Inc.
There are a lot of versions of this story. Guess I’ll have to check the BBC to see what’s really going on.
Do we know that he obtained the guns legally?
he lied on the background check form
Yes... he was refused a carry license! His guns, he acquired illegally!
He didn’t have a dishonorable discharge.
He still did prison time.
Conviction of domestic violence also shows on NICS checks. I keep seeing both Bad Conduct and Dishonorable...
It was a felony, yes?
I just said it was reported incorrectly. Not a DD.
I came here to echo @rons comments. In the rush to get the story out....I think some sources misclassified his discharge. It looks to me as if he had a ‘Bad Conduct Discharge’ which does not preclude him from owning a firearm. Is that correct? I do know that a DD prevents it. So it would appear that this was a legally obtained firearm. Assuming that is the case....is it worth discussing whether or not a convicted domestic abuser should be allowed to have a firearm? I’m not taking a side here....I’m asking for an opinion.
It is worth a discussion.
They just reported on TV that his discharge is not clear yet or if he legal to purchase the three guns he had with him. He did buy them, one rifle and two hand guns. Seems the citizen shot him but he killed himself in the car.
He was also licensed to be a security guard. He did not have a license to carry. The security guard had no weapon. Like at a rock concert.
@nemacyst -help me out since I don’t know. Is the DV stipulation a Texas law?
Domestic violence/domestic assault-as you state above.
DV is covered under federal law.
Seems the USAF. Dropped the ball! Tragic. Because of paper work. Plus he lied on form 4473.
I read that last night. Unacceptable.
No, but thankfully there was an armed man there who did.
Yup. He was a neighbor of the church. The shooting only took place for about a minute before he returned fire. He likely saved several lives.
He didn't stop it soon enough.
No, but he wasn’t in the church when it started...
He stopped the shooter faster than the police did.
Which takes nothing away from the police- it just demonstrates how the police can’t be everywhere, and depend on an armed population to defend themselves and others.
There are 650,000 sworn police officers in this country... and 320 million people.