Without California, our GDP would be $15.5 Trillion, still in 1st place by about $5 Trillion, Our population would be around 280 million, and our military wouldn't change at all. Why can't California have a calexit vote?
I'm all with Calexit. Less Democrats for me!
It would lead to the shattering of the Union. An Amendment specifically barring secession ought be passed.
I can think of over 600,000 thousand reasons.
The 1st thing they would do as a new country is ask their "not my president" for foreign aid.
I think they should. Texas should have a "Texit" vote, and I think Hawaii had some rumblings about a secession vote too. I'd be fine with any state having a vote to secede.
What about our California military bases? Energy grid
Not to mention California produces a third of US vegetables and two-thirds of US fruits and nuts.
And 82% of the worlds almonds
They can't do any of that as their own country?
I do recall them needing water for those crops. And lmao, isn't it anazing how right wingers run all of those things you just listed.
Most of California isn't in a drought if that's what you are implying.
California's drought ended...
California is a welfare state, meaning ithe costs of the state overwhelm its GDP. It is full of worthless leeches, criminals, far leftists, pollution, and illegals. The only good things about the state are brought to you by right wingers. The funny thing about the Calexit movement, the leader has lives in Russia.
... have you been to California?
San Diego is a shithole.
Let me rephrase have you lived or significantly experiences California
2.6 million illegals in California. Thats about 20% of Illegal immigrants in the U.S.
Regrettably spent 2 years near UC Berkeley.
I have not, and most likely Nathan hasn't either.
Okay, so he has.
You can't judge a state if you've never been there Brandon.
CA is not a welfare state. In fact, it contributes more gross $$ to the Federal government than any other state. Losing CA would further drown the US in debt. For a list of welfare states...start here: wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/#methodology
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sdut-welfare-capital-of-the-us-2012jul28-htmlstory.html California most definitely is a welfare state.
Squidboy has an article from 2017
Nathan has an article from 2012
Which should I trust more? No question.
California leads the other states with 39.5.
California also brings in a lot of money from agriculture, film, energy, tech, and a wide variety of industries. The thing about calexit is that 1) pretty sure Californians would vote against it 2) it would mostly be the US' loss
Its value is overwhelmed by its expenditure.
Your ignorance of statistics aside, we are talking about different things. You think CA is a welfare state because of a gross number. The reality is that per capita, CA uses less social 'welfare' per capita than most states because it has on average....a richer and younger population. My point is that CA contributes more net revenue in taxes than any state. Per capita....only 7 states contribute more $ to the Federal government: www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/feb/14/does-california-give-more-it-gets-dc/. If you want to talk about 'welfare' states....you need to go Red. MS, LA, TN, MO, SD, MT, GA....these are the welfare queens. So if you live in CA....you are a giver....not a taker.
First of all, politifact is not a reliable source, you might as well give me something from NPR. www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-federal-government-money-20170205-story.html
And lmao, its funny you should mention the blackest states in the US. I wonder why those red states have to take in so much federal funds. Probably has to do with the Democrats.
I live in California and see it as a gimme your wallet state. They can't fund the things they think they must have or the things they need to fix, so they keep increasing taxes.
The area I live in used to be republican, not anymore.
Citizens and businesses are moving out. I'm trying to convince my family to leave too.
If you actually read the link....you would know it references a wallethub study. So here is another source. Or you could use google yourself and find 60 other sources with the same results: www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/06/some-of-the-most-conservative-states-rely-most-on-federal-government-aid/?utm_term=.2d46c3082622
WaPo is not a reliable source.
So then source the wallethub study, which you already did. I don't need a "journalist's" interpretation to clear somethinf up for me.
Perhaps you would accept the same study from its originator....the conservative Tax Foundation? taxfoundation.org/which-states-rely-most-federal-aid-0
Nothing there about California, stay on topic.
I will quote it for you: 'Which states rely most on federal aid?' California ranks 42. So if you want to call CA a welfare state....then you have to include 41 other states ahead of it as a welfare state.
Yeah, I literally just put "California" into a word search and nothing came up.
All the states & their ranking are in the graphic in the provided link. Also....the article you linked to concluded with this quote: ' Trump needs California to prosper. Almost 1 in 8 Americans lives here, and the state has created more than 2.4 million jobs since the current economic expansion began seven years ago. He may not like the state’s politics, but Trump the businessman would be wise to see California as a good investment.'
Lol at this thread yall got here.