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VirtualCongress June 9th, 2017 1:01am

johonmilla (D-NC) proposes Prostitution Legalization Act

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Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 6:23 am

Nay, as the federal government has no authority to enact Section 2-6

Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 6:23 am

Perhaps try it as a state bill.

johonmilla Monroe, nc
06/09/17 7:39 am

The government does have the ability to regulate businesses, create health codes, and tax. The only part they can't do relates to state taxes but I must note that my bill means federal not state taxes.

Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 7:49 am

Well of course the federal government has the ability. Anyone with guns and thugs has the ability. That's a completely separate band unrelated topic to whether or not anyone has the authority to do so.

johonmilla Monroe, nc
06/09/17 8:30 am

If you want authority the Commerce clause gives Congress the ability to regulate business and thus create things like health codes. Article I section 8 gives congress the authority to tax.

Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 8:37 am

No, it clearly does not. The interstate commerce clause just prohibits states from imposing tariffs and regulations against each other.

johonmilla Monroe, nc
06/09/17 8:49 am

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes". Those are the exact words.

PeaceKeepaGirl advance democracy
06/09/17 11:24 am

Liberty, agree or not, the Commerce clause is interpreted much more broadly nowadays. I think this would likely be considered constitutional by the Supreme Court.

Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 12:27 pm

Exactly John, that has nothing whatsoever to do with what you brought up earlier.

Girl, it's true that activist judges have "interpreted" things that are not there in pursuit of their political agendas. It doesn't, however, alter the reality of the original text.

TheSpookyGhost paleoconservative
06/09/17 3:24 pm

Exactly. The federal government ruling that the federal government should have more power? How shocking!

johonmilla Monroe, nc
06/09/17 5:33 pm

www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/government-regulation-business

Regulation is a federal government power given the by the constitution. States simply do not have this power. Regardless of your belief of regulation being good or bad, or activism vs originalism, business regulation is a constitutional power for the federal government and enhanced by the courts. Therefore sections 2-6 are possible by the federal government.

Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 8:27 pm

Exactly, Ghost. It's hardly surprising that a government's employees would rule that said government can have more power than it was authorized to have. Quite a clear conflict of interest.

John, it is not an authorized power given to the federal government as described above. That someone "interpreted" additional powers into being that don't actually exist doesn't legitimize it in actuality. To say that it does would be a combination of the fallacy of tradition and non-sequitur.

Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 8:28 pm

Fallacy of tradition and non-sequitur.

hrieniets Nashville
06/09/17 6:02 am

Yea, if you believe in freedom, you believe in legalizing prostitution. It's a victimless crime, and "morality" is not a valid reason to outlaw something.

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Liberty 4,032,064
06/09/17 8:30 pm

Is it not also the case that operating without a "license" from a third party or "registering to a licensed workplace" (whatever that's supposed to mean) as criminalized by this bill would them be victimless crimes as well?

ReligiousCommie No Longer Active
06/09/17 5:03 am

Yea. This will improve the lives of prostitutes. Similar to ending the War on Drugs and using the Swiss model.

GrandMaster New York
06/09/17 3:22 am

Nay, we must protect the last bit of morality the US has. Expecting a veto from the president!

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SniperNoSniping VC Congressman PLP VA
06/09/17 1:16 am

This is a horrible bill, we have to draw the line at some point. I expect a veto

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TheSpookyGhost paleoconservative
06/08/17 10:42 pm

Nay. We must preserve the moral dignity of our nation lest we descend into a pack of bestial animals, concerned only with the basest of pleasures.

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hokiejac Decatur, GA
06/08/17 8:32 pm

Actually you could structure it in a way to empower most women. You could regulate the industry, ensure health and safety. It works well in the Netherlands. Also a great area of tax revenue.

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skinner Wisconsin
06/08/17 8:23 pm

Nay, we should not institutionalize the oppression of women. We shouldn't normalize the brothel or legitimize the pimps. We need to recognize that prostitution is about the savage desire of perverted men to control innocent women and young girls. We need to recognize that no woman wants to be a prostitute, but is rather forced into that agonizing line of work due to economic coercion. We need to recognize that prostitution destroys families and it often destroys lives as women are raped, battered, and even killed.

Finally, we must recognize that, based on the examples we see in other countries, none of these conditions get better under a legalized system of prostitution. We must not institutionalize the suffering of women. Nay! Nay! Nay!

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TheSpookyGhost paleoconservative
06/08/17 10:41 pm

I'd never think that feminist principles could actually be used to benefit society!

FloridaPopulist Nationalist Right
06/08/17 7:46 pm

I ask the president to veto

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skinner Wisconsin
06/08/17 8:18 pm

I never thought I would agree with FloridaPopulist, but I do today

SniperNoSniping VC Congressman PLP VA
06/09/17 1:16 am

Believe me, I'm more surprised I agree with him

Neighinator Ohio
06/09/17 7:47 am

I third that motion.

FloridaPopulist Nationalist Right
06/08/17 7:43 pm

Nay nay nay. This bill is a disgrace to vc

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Cole12 ...
06/08/17 6:50 pm

Yea, of course.

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Jkllink VC President
06/08/17 6:35 pm

Nay, why do we need so many restrictions? Just let people do what they want.

TheSpookyGhost paleoconservative
06/08/17 10:39 pm

Lol, wut? Let people get STDs if they want?

Jkllink VC President
06/08/17 10:42 pm

They know what's going to happen if they get a prostitute. If someone wants to make money from sex then the government shouldn't stop that.

PeaceKeepaGirl advance democracy
06/09/17 1:36 am

Wouldn't it make sense to vote yea on this as at least a step in the right direction?

PeaceKeepaGirl advance democracy
06/08/17 6:27 pm

I voted yea but I think some clarification might be useful with regards to how workplaces are licensed. Is the requirements just that they don't hire any prostitutes with STDs, per sec. 4-5?

VirtualCongress Speaker NDAmerican
06/08/17 6:03 pm

I. Prostitution is hereby legalized nationwide
II. Places of prostitution can only operate if licensed
III. All prostitutes must be registered to a licensed workplace
IV. All prostitutes must pass a sexual health test, free from STDs
V. Failure to have STD free prostitutes will end the license of the center
VI. Prostitution will be taxed the same way as any entertainment