Inspired by a SOH question. Do you have a good or bad perspective of Robert E. Lee?
Mixed feelings. On one hand, he was a great leader who didn't want to go against his family and way of life. He didn't go running to the Confederacy, he was sort of reluctant. On the other hand, he's a traitor who fought for slavery.
To me, he fought for his country. The CSA didn't only succeed because of slavery, it was actually more because of the unfair ways the Union treated them. Basically, I don't think that he fought for slavery, rather for his patriotism for his country.
I don't think trying to end slavery or the expansion of slavery is treating the south unfairly. Slavery needed to stop some time
That isn't how they were treated unfairly. The federal government kept trying to interfere in states rights with the south, which is also why the CSA formed. They believed in strong state government, not only a federal one.
They seceded cause they knew lincoln would take steps to eventually end slavery.
Lee was is one of the Great Captains of history. Even if he was on the wrong side of it.
Better to be a traitorous c**t for siding with your family than fighting against them.
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I'm interested in this. Could you provide a source, please?
Check your dates. Grant wasn't even in the Army when the Civil War started. Grant was a civilian in 1861 when Lee was offered command of the Union Army at the outbreak of the war.
From Wiki: "Grant graduated in 1843 from the United States Military Academy at West Point, then served in the Mexican–American War. After the war he married Julia Boggs Dent in 1848, their marriage producing four children.
Grant initially retired from the Army in 1854. He struggled financially in civilian life. When the Civil War began in 1861, he rejoined the U.S. Army. In 1862, Grant took control of Kentucky and most of Tennessee, and led Union forces to victory in the Battle of Shiloh, earning a reputation as an aggressive commander."
Part 2. From Wiki:
"Robert Edward Lee (January 19, 1807 – October 12, 1870) was an American general known for commanding the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia in the American Civil War from 1862 until his surrender in 1865.
The son of Revolutionary War officer Henry "Light Horse Harry" Lee III, Lee was a top graduate of the United States Military Academy and an exceptional officer and military engineer in the United States Army for 32 years. During this time, he served throughout the United States, distinguished himself during the Mexican–American War, and served as Superintendent of the United States Military Academy.
When Virginia declared its secession from the Union in April 1861, Lee chose to follow his home state, despite his personal desire for the country to remain intact and an offer of a senior Union command."
Part 3. That footnote  leads to this site, which is VERY comprehensive, detailing the struggle that Lee had over this decision.
And as you can see from this site, Grant was in full command when Lee assumed command, June 1, 1862.
Apr 8, 1862 - Apr 9, 1862
Battle of Shiloh:
Union General Ulysses S. Grant's forces are surprised at the town of Shiloh in Tennessee. The ensuing battle results in 13,000 Union and 10,000 Confederate casualties, more than in all previous American wars combined.
Jun 1, 1862
Robert E. Lee Assumes Command
General Robert E. Lee assumes command of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia.
It says "page not found."
Engineer Guy, I'm agreeing with you. I DON'T think you made a mistake, per the dates I just posted!
Thanks, DexNav. Maybe I missed part of the link. Try this:
This is REALLY weird. It's doing that to me now. I can get it to go to it directly from the Wiki page.
If I copy and paste it from the page that originally opened, it does it correctly. If I copy and paste it from the link I posted here, it doesn't! What is UP with that?
Please try going to the Wiki page, and then to the second paragraph and click on the  footnote. That opened it up correctly for me.
Please let me know if that worked for you or not, @DexNav !