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Should the U.S. embassy in Israel be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

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JohnZ12
01/28/18 9:02 am

Yes and thankfully it did 🇺🇸🇮🇱❤️

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obamasuxx
06/01/17 5:22 pm

I would honestly defer to the host country and where they would like it, and where they could most easily protect it.

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mfjd1948 rural johnson co iowa
05/26/17 9:37 am

No. If the other Embassies and the seat of government are in Tel Aviv, why move? To do it to appease some religious group and anger others doesn't make sense to me.

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croopertrooper Greater Cincinnati Area
05/26/17 9:01 am

Sure? I really don't care. Whether the embassy is in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem effects me 0%. Why is this even an issue in American politics?

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otto Olean, NY
05/26/17 5:08 am

Absolutely. Are there other countries where our embassy is not in the capital city? Seriously, I don't know. But I doubt it. It's kinda part of what it means to be a capital. I honestly don't know why it isn't there, but it belongs there and it's not being moved there because EVERYONE is so god-awful scared of pissing off Muslims. Screw them. At least in this situation. Muslims have zero legal, historical or even religious claim on Jerusalem. They are basically there to remind the Jews to watch their backs. And their bullying puts the entire world on pins and needles in fear of "offending" the Muslims. Even to the point that mean, tough Donald Trump even wusses away from his promise to move embassy there. He was right when he called the terrorists "losers", but they seem to have beaten him by scaring him away from what isn't even theirs.

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phalnx Ohio
05/26/17 4:53 am

Eh...I couldn't give two shits where it is.

corino Utah
05/25/17 11:00 pm

It would be better able to serve American citizens in Jerusalem.

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GenghisKant Immanuel Khan
05/27/17 9:29 pm

And less able to serve those in Tel Aviv, so your point is moot.

corino Utah
05/27/17 9:40 pm

I think there are more American citizens in Jerusalem.

benseth naturalist
05/25/17 8:44 pm

I genuinely don't understand why it matters.

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benseth naturalist
05/25/17 11:01 pm

If anyone could please explain.

obamasuxx
06/01/17 5:27 pm

Not a full, complete answer, but that would be recognizing Israels capital as Jerusalem but then that would tick off the terrorist they are forced to live with in their land.

adam180 Pennsylvania
05/25/17 7:24 pm

It wouldn't be prudent to be looking for a fight in that region of the world

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keamyx The Great state of Texas
05/25/17 9:39 pm

I would agree. But from just reading a few of these comments, there seems to be some that have very little clue about this, like me, and others that seem to have a lot of knowledge and deep convictions.

adam180 Pennsylvania
05/26/17 5:10 am

Israel annexed east Jerusalem from the Palestinian Territories after a war and the change in territory is not recognized by most governments or the UN . Moving the embassy would be a giant PR mistake because it would show other countries our support of Israel in the context of the annexation of Palestinian Territories. This would show them that we aren't serious about peace because the Palestinians still consider east Jerusalem to be their stolen capital

adam180 Pennsylvania
05/26/17 5:12 am

This would lead to more anti Americanism in the Middle East and abroad for no gain

lj74
05/26/17 7:27 am

And Israel considers Jerusalem their capital. So?

nacho
05/26/17 7:52 am

A little context.
The Arab nations threatened (and still do) to kill every last Jew and drive them ito the sea. So they started a war, told the people to leave their homes for a few days while they wiped out the Jewish menace and then they could return to their homes.
Oops --they lost the war and every war after, those people that stayed are still there, those that's fled to let the army wipe out the Jews were then told stay in refugee camps, we will get world sympathy against the evil, blood drinking murdering Jews and anyway those half human Jews will kill you if you go back.

The Jerusalem issue is just another part of the narrative that peace loving Arabs have a historical right to everything in or near the holy land or else it is an offence to their religion although their claims to Jerusalem lack any historical context.

And here we are today.

wmgill
05/29/17 1:26 am

Actually they took it from Jordan in the 1967 war after Jordan attacked them.

adam180 Pennsylvania
05/29/17 3:57 am

Yea you're right that's my bad. Palestinians claim it as their capital (with no legitimacy whatsoever)

Kneske College Station, TX
05/25/17 6:56 pm

Can somebody tell me why it shouldn't? I honestly don't know enough about this topic

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 5:33 pm

Absolutely. Israel owns every square inch of its capital city, Jerusalem. The land was liberated 50 years ago this week in the Six-Day War. No other entity has any legitimate claim to the land.

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mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 6:33 pm

And for the last 50 years many countries and the U.N. still do not recognise their control of east Jerusalem.. Why do you think most countries don't have their embassies in Jerusalem.

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 6:50 pm

Because they hate the Jews. It's a theme running all through history. For nearly 2000 years, the Jews wandered the Earth, unable to find a suitable place to live free of persecution. But they have returned to their rightful homeland, and their persecutors don't like it one bit. And I don't care what those persecutors think. I care what God said in Genesis 12 – that the land of Israel is an everlasting possession of Abraham's legitimate descendants (through his son Isaac), and that God will bless those who bless it, and curse those who curse it. 🇺🇸🇮🇱

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 6:53 pm

They were the ones who gave them Jerusalem....also Muslims are Abrahams decendents as well...he didn't have just Isaac he had Ishmael as well

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 7:19 pm

I said "legitimate" descendants. The descendants of Ishmael are not the legitimate line of the promise. God promised the blessings to Abraham's natural son, not his son by a surrogate mother.

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 7:27 pm

Abraham and Hagar were married when he slept with her, how is that not legitimate?

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 9:30 pm

No, they were not married. She was Sarah's maidservant. Following a pagan custom from the Chaldeans, Sarah had Hagar sit on her lap so that her husband Abraham could have sex with Sarah and then ejaculate into Hagar. They only did this because God had promised them an heir, and they just didn't believe God would cure Sarah's barrenness, which He did, several years after Ishmael's birth. None of this makes Ishmael the specific heir that God had promised (i.e., the legitimate heir).

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 10:28 pm

Well I don't know what bible you got that from but mine says Abraham made her his wife

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 10:51 pm

That would have been polygamy, another pagan custom. It wouldn't matter in God's eyes - a polygamous marriage would never carry the same legitimacy. You are using your human reasoning to argue with God in matters of faith. The fact is that Isaac was Abraham's promised heir - the heir of the blessing. Nothing in the Bible contradicts this. Meanwhile, the entire balance of the Bible contradicts your theory about Ishmael, because he disappears out of Scripture entirely and the story continues with ISAAC's descendants.

Tariq88 Utah
05/25/17 5:25 pm

It doesn't make a big difference to me either way, there are bigger concerns about that than just that and there are bigger concerns all over the whole world.

EquaISideEcon more conservative than u
05/25/17 4:12 pm

Sounds like a waste of both time and money.

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Suzan Hawaii
05/25/17 3:48 pm

As quickly as possible. Jerusalem is the capital. What other country do we keep our embassies out of the capitals?

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mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 6:30 pm

How many other countries have a contested capital, causing most of their embassies to be located in another city?

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/26/17 10:09 pm

So... Israel isn't like other countries, in that the U.N. atleast recognises their capitals as their capitals

Suzan Hawaii
05/27/17 2:50 am

Exactly. Jerusalem is the capital. But it in the embassy is in Tel Aviv. I would like other countries putting their embassies in Chicago

Zod Above Pugetropolis
05/25/17 2:51 pm

Seems like we'd put it wherever Israel tells us to put it, and it seems like it's working just fine for them where it is.

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chinito Florida
05/25/17 1:57 pm

Yes. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. And we don't dictate our lives according to the desires of radical terrorists.

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otisfuzz Georgia
05/25/17 1:29 pm

Literally, no country recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital. It's a disputed city and should there happen to be a miracle and the two sides come to terms, east Jerusalem would belong to the Palestinians. When that happens, then West Jerusalem would be recognized as the capital.

otisfuzz Georgia
05/25/17 1:30 pm

Russia did recently recognize West Jerusalem as the capital but not the entire city.

krayzewolf New Hampshire
05/25/17 12:54 pm

Why spend the money? Unless Israel coughs up the cash to do it, why?

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Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
05/25/17 12:46 pm

The US Embassy in Israel should be closed, not moved.

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xop
05/25/17 12:31 pm

Doesn't matter

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AndyL Canada
05/25/17 11:53 am

Probably not the biggest priority for the US right now. It kinda seems like it would be a waste of time and money.

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mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 11:33 am

Wed be moving into a hotbed where radicals from three different religions focus their attention... there's plenty of reasons why we shouldnt... what do we actually get from doing it?

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chinito Florida
05/27/17 9:00 am

1. We don't do things or stop doing things because of terrorists. We don't negotiate with terrorists.

2. Under Israeli control, people from all religions can safely and peacefully practice their religion, for the first time in history.

truenuff
05/25/17 11:22 am

Yes because Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel.

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 5:37 pm

*is the capital of Israel. 😃

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 10:45 am

To the Capital of Israel.

Survivalistien I am Green and Retired
05/25/17 9:41 am

Jerusalem is more of a religious sanctuary for Jews, Christains and Muslims. The move would anger a few.

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cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 10:46 am

So they should care what a few radicals think? Why?

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 11:30 am

What's the benefits of moving it to Jerusalem?

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 11:33 am

All other US Embassys are in the Capitals of other nations. Israel is the only one where it is not. Seems odd.

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 11:35 am

Because their capital is holy city. Our Vatican embassy isn't located in Vatican city. Again what do we get from moving it?

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 11:45 am

The Vatican is its own State. Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel.

Think Lovin Life
05/25/17 4:15 pm

Mud ... you realize how ridiculous you sound, right?

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 5:33 pm

I'm ridiculous because I'm asking what the benefits are?

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 5:37 pm

It establishes that the United States backs Israel 100%. After Barry Soetoro meddled in the Israeli election to try and unseat Netanyahu, that's the least we can do and Trump promised to do it.

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 5:39 pm

How does it say that? Because conservatives believe it? Like don't our actions already show that?

Think Lovin Life
05/25/17 5:40 pm

Mud ... nice try at making yourself out to be a victim!

You're ridiculous because you feebly tossed out the Vatican as an example of why we should keep our embassy in Israel misplaced!

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 5:40 pm

But again, how does that benefit us? Isn't this a huge neocon thing?

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 5:41 pm

Because it's reality.

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 5:41 pm

Lol where did I make myself a victim?

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 5:41 pm

It's a human thing.

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 5:43 pm

It's a human thing.

Think Lovin Life
05/25/17 5:44 pm

Mud ... it's all about you isn't it?

mudkip17 United States of Texas
05/25/17 6:27 pm

Think you were the one who said I sounded ridiculous. I was just asking Why? Either add something or dont. But if you're just gonna be a troll I'm gonna stop responding to you

Think Lovin Life
05/28/17 3:16 pm

Mud ... who could expect you to fall into the leftist's final failure ... calling anyone who dares to disagree a "troll"!

commonsense America isnt racist
05/25/17 9:33 am

Sure, it's their capital.

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Okie1967 The world is crazy
05/25/17 9:20 am

Yes. Regardless of what your politics are and how you feel about it, Israel's government actually IS in Jerusalem. You can pretend it's not, but it's physically located in Jerusalem and has been for a very long time.

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Hyli
05/25/17 9:13 am

In other words, "Do you want to start the deadliest, lengthiest Middle East war with which the US will surely be involved?"

Okie1967 The world is crazy
05/25/17 9:21 am

We've already been in exactly that since 1991.

Hyli
05/25/17 3:54 pm

Haha, buddy, making any gestures to consider Jerusalem the capital of Israel would slippery slope into a ME war to dwarf all others.

McGoona
05/25/17 8:50 am

I wish there was an "I don't really care" option for this poll.

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Hyli
05/25/17 9:08 am

There is! You activate it by not tapping anything. Isn't that convenient?

CleverUserID Dayton, OH
05/25/17 10:20 am

I don't think you can read comments and see the voting results without voting yourself, though, can you?

auntiesamm Orange County CA
05/25/17 2:08 pm

You are correct. I find it annoying that I must vote to read comments!!!!!!

liam2013 iowa
05/25/17 8:21 am

Leave the embassy in the capital Tel Aviv. Let Jerusalem remain a holy city for three faiths and don't cause unnecessary problems in the region as it is.

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commonsense America isnt racist
05/25/17 9:35 am

The capital of Israel is Jerusalem.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
05/25/17 8:09 am

Cruz, Rubio, and Heller want to restrict funding for embassy security until this move takes place, proving they never have a shit about Benghazi.

www.heller.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/e6f046db-fd29-462e-86fe-3433921c44b0/Heller%20Cruz%20Rubio%20Jerusalem%20Bill.pdf

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cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 10:47 am

Good for them! It's more than the Jewish Democrats are doing.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
05/25/17 7:51 am

That's a really stupid move.

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Liberty 4,032,064
05/25/17 7:45 am

Why would it be anywhere other than the capital?

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cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 7:41 am

See my poll about all of the Jewish Democrat politicians silent on the 50th anniversary of Jerusalem Day.

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NKarta Please excuse my sanity
05/25/17 7:40 am

Only if the US is going to take severe retaliatory steps against the perpetrators of the attacks that are sure to occur against the embassy. If they are going to move it, have it attacked, and offer worthless condemnation that has apparently taken the place of retaliating against enemies, its not worth it.

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NKarta Please excuse my sanity
05/25/17 7:40 am

They should recognize all of Jerusalem as Israel's eternal unified capital asap though.

chinito Florida
05/25/17 1:43 pm

Because crazy terrorists don't have enough targets to attack in Jerusalem...

NKarta Please excuse my sanity
05/25/17 3:01 pm

They do, we just gotta make sure our stuff doesn't become a favorite target

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 7:39 am

Of course. Another broken promise from Donald Trump.

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Think Lovin Life
05/25/17 7:56 am

Ease up there, Cowpoke! Give the man some rope with which to keep the promise or hang himself!

I'm as impatient as you, but let's give him some space. If he fails I'll be there with you.

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 7:58 am

He already did, several times, as predicted.

Yessy French Texan
05/25/17 7:59 am

I don't even know what cowboy is. He is against both liberals and conservatives but he isn't and Independent

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 8:00 am

He's now calling radical Islamic terrorists, "losers". 🙄

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 8:02 am

I'm an American. 🇺🇸

Okie1967 The world is crazy
05/25/17 9:22 am

President Trump is disappointing in this area and a few others. He totally rocks in others though. Much better than Hillary or the baby killing libertarian candidate.

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 9:24 am

What else would you expect from a lying, abortion loving, NYC Liberal con man and TV game show host.

Okie1967 The world is crazy
05/25/17 9:25 am

More than what I would expect from a morally bankrupt libertarian.

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 9:26 am

A Libertarian wouldn't of given away our military to the Islamic savages who attacked us on 9/11.

MericaTakesAll For God and Country
05/25/17 11:11 am

You do realize the military equipment that we sell them isn't as sophisticated as what we use right? Our Abrams, F35s, etc have modifications and upgrades that the ones we plan to sell them won't have. Heck, they probably won't even get power windows.

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 11:15 am

Yeah I know. It's Trump, so he's a genius. 🙄 If it was Barry giving US military equipment and arms to the Islamic savages, who attacked us on 9/11, you'd be losing your shit.

MericaTakesAll For God and Country
05/25/17 11:19 am

Cowboy, you have no idea why you are talking about. You need to stop jumping to conclusions and learn to control your emotions.

cowboy Here and There
05/25/17 11:20 am

Of course I know what I'm talking about. 🙄

Think Lovin Life
05/25/17 7:35 am

YES, and it should be moved today. It is time to stop the Muslim induced farce. The capital of Israel is Jerusalem. It's also time to return the Temple Mount to its rightful owners, the Jews. Today!

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