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Reeze May 25th, 2017 4:07am

A shot elephant falls on a hunter and kills him, leaving behind a wife and five kids. Is the hunter's death a cause for celebration or mourning?

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reaganist Virtual Congress Justice
05/27/17 5:20 am

I value human life more than an elephant's. That doesn't mean I approve of him shooting the elephant, but this is no cause for celebration.

ladyniner81 I need chocolate
05/26/17 8:08 am

Karma bit him in the ass

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GeneralDevin MN
05/26/17 12:43 am

Almost all losses of human life are unfortunate, and most certainly not a cause for celebration. The exceptions being the most vile humans, such as Josef Mengele. People do horrible things but are usually undeserving of death. If we wish it upon the criminals, we are becoming the enemy we despise. We become the murderers in the mind and soul. Killing is justifiable in self defense and executions, but only then in the form of justice and defense.

dudley northern Virginia woods
05/25/17 7:18 pm

Who would leave five kids to go someplace far away to kill an elephant? Nowadays that's almost murder.

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 6:29 pm

I'm sorry to hear about that poor elephant's widow and fatherless children.

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 6:51 pm

I'm sorry I value human life over an animal.

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 6:54 pm

@Reeze – I do too! I was just referring to the awkwardness of the sentence construction. It was ambiguous, and made it seem that the wife and children belonged to the elephant. 😃

Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 6:57 pm

My bad! I was a little shocked that I disagreed with you for once, but I now see my mistake. I apologize for jumping on you so quickly; I've just been almost irrationally upset about this and the fact that we're heading toward a place where human life no longer has value. It's good to see you again!

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
05/25/17 7:14 pm

No problem, my friend, and it's good to see you too! I totally agree about the devaluing of human life that we are seeing in modern society. Harambe and Cecil the lion were shocking stories!

Zod Above Pugetropolis
05/25/17 4:36 pm

One less dumbass bringing our average down, and a solid contender for a Darwin Award. Still, not a cause for celebration. I'm sure his family is mourning the loss.

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NKarta Please excuse my sanity
05/25/17 11:30 am

Mourning. A person died. Its ok that these kids are orphans and shes a widow because you think killing animals is wrong?

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BlackC
05/25/17 8:47 am

Great one for the elephant. Those rich assholes shooting animals to extinction need to spend their big money elsewhere . And don't comeback with they are just shooting the old ones or helping the local economy by killing that's just self Serving BS . Rot in hell motha f er

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 8:49 am

Without conservation hunting, poaching and aggressive male elephants would drive the species to extinction in a matter of years. Get off your high horse and have some respect for human life.

BlackC
05/25/17 8:53 am

The so called conservationist was just a person killing animals for profit - adios motha f er

BlackC
05/25/17 8:54 am

He was no different than bull fighters killing for the sake of entertainment - sick fuck

Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 8:56 am

Yes, but the hunting people like him do is actually vital to the continuation of the species. Aggressive older males are not dying and will kill children, which is why they need to be killed so they don't destroy their own species. You're literally arguing FOR the extinction of a species and rejoicing at a man's death as well as the fact that 5 kids will now grow up fatherless. You're a sociopath.

FemmeNemmy meninism awareness
05/25/17 12:50 pm

I would never be a big game hunter myself. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. But that doesn't mean I rejoice in the pain that man's wife and children are feeling. They weren't hunting. So why should people be so excited for their loss?

BlackC
05/25/17 9:23 pm

And you are full of shit if you believe this?

gman232
05/25/17 7:59 am

Mourned for both

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RyanUnited Be the Change
05/25/17 6:34 am

It's sad and I don't like hunting for the sake of hunting. People celebrating this are sick.

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Krodin Pennsylvania
05/25/17 6:27 am

What goes around comes around; Don't kill something unless you need to. We have too many people on this planet anyways..

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 6:35 am

I guess I just have the old-fashioned viewpoint that a human's life is more valuable than an animal's.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
05/25/17 7:58 am

Let's just ignore the fact the human killed was the murderer of animals.

Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 8:02 am

If you've ever eaten a burger in your life, I hope you get trampled by cows and people celebrate your death. Just kidding, because that's awful- but it's exactly what you're doing. Hunting is an important part of conservation, and I'm sorry I'm not going to be crying if an animal dies. If he had killed humans, I would be less sympathetic.

BlackC
05/25/17 8:49 am

Not to worry most of these animals will become extinct soon enough by the sick behavior of humans - so humans can continue just killing themselves again.

FemmeNemmy meninism awareness
05/25/17 12:54 pm

I can clearly see both sides here. Reeze, the only difference I see in the burgers vs big game argument (I know you were being facetious to prove a point) is that the cow is used for several things. Milk, meat, leather...amongst other uses. The elephant head would just sit on a wall somewhere.

However, that doesn't make me happy about the hunter's death...or think he just got what he deserved. I'm not God. I don't get to decide who deserves to die and neither do any of you.

HammeringMan Gods Away On Business
05/25/17 5:39 am

HIS Death is a cause for mourning.
The cessation of his killing a CELEBRATION

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 6:35 am

That's an opinion I can respect.

HammeringMan Gods Away On Business
05/25/17 7:08 am

SOH'rs love compliments.
Thanks for noticing.

TreeHair Wisconsin
05/25/17 5:21 am

Elephants are actually becoming more violent due to poaching. Little did people know, elephants actually mourn the deaths of other elephants. Some will even have a type of "funeral" when another elephant dies. When poachers kill elephants that have young, the young don't know who to base their personalities off of. So when elephants grow up, they aren't as peaceful as their parents were. They're slowly becoming more violent. I mean it's sad that this hunter left a family behind, but I say good riddance Jack@ss

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 6:37 am

This wasn't a poacher. He was a hunter whose efforts went toward conservation, which is the only way we can protect elephants from going extinct at this point. He was the victim of a wild elephant attack and I am honestly disgusted at anyone who is PLEASED that this man died.

HammeringMan Gods Away On Business
05/25/17 7:10 am

Thanks fir the full story. The poll question did not make that obvious, and clearly many readers are not as informed as you are.

Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 7:14 am

Right. There wasn't enough room for the full story, and I was kind of aiming toward wondering whether people valued the life of a hunter or elephant more without context. I'm giving the story now in hopes that it changes some people's opinions- I don't think his death should be celebrated regardless.

BlackC
05/25/17 8:50 am

I have call this total self serving BS !!

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
05/25/17 5:00 am

Mourning, and only a sick person would wonder about it.

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Okie1967 Lets go brandon
05/25/17 5:01 am

Rather, only a sick person would celebrate.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
05/25/17 4:36 am

Is it sad that he left behind a few kids? Sure. Am I altogether upset that his actions and stupidity caused his death after shooting an endangered species? Not at all.

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 6:44 am

His party stumbled upon an elephant breeding ground, and one of the elephants charged them. It was shot in self-defense and had picked up the man with the intent to kill him. I am completely sympathetic; he didn't do anything to cause this. That's like blaming a bicyclist for getting hit by a car because he "knew the risks" when he decided to drive on the road.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
05/25/17 9:55 am

No one just stumbles upon an elephant breeding ground; that doesn't happen. Also, that analogy is just plan dumb, mate. You can't compare a bicyclist around cars to a person with a rifle in an area known to have elephants.

Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 11:37 am

That was taken from the article reporting it. But I guess you've been to many elephant breeding grounds and know exactly how they work, so my bad. Also, it's an apt analogy because people are saying they're unsympathetic because he knew the risks when he chose his profession. I wouldn't celebrate the death of a factory worker, even though he knew the risks involved when he signed up for his job.

Ailuro49 Just MY own opinion
05/25/17 3:20 am

I say hurray, Devine Justice! The man left 4 children behind.... How many did the poor elephant leave behind?!! Elephants have emotions the same as a human. They grieve the loss of their children or mate same as humans.

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 4:21 am

I just don't see it that way at all. There is nothing to suggest that elephants are nearly as capable as humans at processing and displaying complex emotions, and I will ALWAYS value an innocent human's life above that of an animal's.

mac007 Mars
05/25/17 2:20 am

Any death is tragic.

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 4:24 am

I completely agree. All over social media, I see people rejoicing that this man they don't even know died in an awful way, not even caring about the effect on his wife and kids, who will now grow up fatherless. I was hoping SOH would have a little more compassion- guess not. I think it's revolting that someone would ever celebrate the death of an innocent person (killing animals does not make you a bad person in my books- we've been doing it since the beginning of humanity). I'm just really disappointed that this is acceptable. I've lost a lot of hope for people.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
05/25/17 4:46 am

Killing animals for the sake of killing animals makes you a shitty person. He won't be missed.

Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 5:08 am

The type of hunting he was involved in benefitted conservation efforts. I guess you'd rather elephants go extinct then.

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
05/25/17 5:16 am

Just to clarify ... I agree with mac and Reeze. I had not seen thatguy's comment when I posted.

I really needed to clear that up!

Celebrating any death is disgusting!

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
05/25/17 3:25 am

Actually, it's called "instant karma". Popular topic on YouTube.

meow1177
05/24/17 11:25 pm

Love when this kind of stuff happens! Serves this sob right. Karmic finish for a disgusting human. Wish things like this happened more frequently. 😻🐾

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Reeze The TARDIS
05/25/17 4:22 am

That's actually sickening.

Zinkshadow1 Tallahassee
05/25/17 7:04 am

You are one sick person.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
05/24/17 9:57 pm

A classic Darwin Award.

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