Show of Hands

I hadn’t realized about year of birth selection, but the the age filter is terrible. It needs to be broken up somehow so that 40+ isn’t the top category.

Yup. Please remove

One more ANDROID issue...

Notifications have been *off* for at least some Android users for a month or so. This is probably a temporary issue and not an actual bug, but I’m sticking it here anyway. I’ve emailed SOH about it (8/30).

If you don’t want to participate, that’s fine. (You could let me know in that case, so that I don’t bug you with any reminders.) Do as little or as much as you feel like.

First, my sincere apologies for taking so very long with this. My brain function hasn’t been very good for organizing this, for some time.

I’ve made a list of most of the items that users asked for in several polls where the most troublesome “bugs” were requested. Some of these aren’t exactly bugs, but requests to have the same features on the iPad as on the iPhone. Some are tweaks to existing features. I left out some requests that seemed to be for completely new features, and a couple tweaks that would be nice to have but don’t seem as compelling as most items in this list. I’ll add them if anyone wants, though.

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I’ve posted the list - and it’s a pretty long list - as separate comments here, since nothing happened with finding an off-app place to discuss. (It starts near the bottom with “Long-comment truncation.” There are a handful of older comments, all in May. I picked an old poll of my own with the fewest existing comments.) (BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO CREATE AN OFF-APP PLACE, I’ll happily repost the list there. I just don’t know how to do that myself.) Please excuse any typos; and ignore any places where you find a capital letter at the beginning of a header - my original list is organized with letters, and I don’t think I removed them all here.

Maybe you could just read through the list, and reply to each comment with something... either a simple Yes/No or anything longer you want (but hopefully including some indicator of whether it should be included or not). I believe Tony had asked for a list of the *FIVE* most important bugs, so a lot have to be eliminated.

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But I will try to tally the opinions for all of these and see what we get. We may have to go back and each pick our “top 5” but I don’t want to do that without an opportunity to comment on all of them. I’ll also tag Tony in case he wants to look at the whole list.

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Oops, I completely forgot Android issues, except where I might have mentioned one incidentally below. I’ll put a separate Android question above, but honestly I don’t know very much about the issues so it’ll be vague. If you’re an Android user, feel free to list them as a reply.

I’m probably going to go away for a few days or so, but I’ll come back and try to tally the results here after a while.

Ideas, guys? I may be about to bail on SOH. I’d like to wrap this up first. If I don’t hear from anyone else, I’ll add my own thoughts, collate what we’ve got, and hand it over to @tony

BUG LIST POLL: @Wert @jarod @omniku @paranoidandroid @cpaswr @MrMilkDud @qmastrangelo @HammeringMan @MrsCrayonWax @voc

I’d like to see some admins or moderators around here. That’s aside from bug fixes. I think it would make the experience more enjoyable. I think some other things that would help the platform would be the ability to search who you have in ignore, non current users, etc. a sort feature.

Weird. I didn’t get a notification for the first time you tagged me, on August 30. But I do like the bug fixes you’ve listed below.

Why are you about to bail?

jarod - You’re on an Android device, aren’t you? Some Android users (not all) have said they weren’t getting notifications. I don’t know if that changed or got fixed. (If you’re on iOS, I don’t know...)

I’m just so sick of the level of venom and ugly “discussions” here. I don’t know that I’ll do it - and I don’t like it when people threaten to do it, so I don’t know why I am doing that now. Except it’s not a threat; it’s a desire to finish something I said I would do. I would really miss the people that I do have productive, interesting and/or fun interactions with here, though.

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I’ve been absent for a short time myself.

I’m on IOS. It may just be because I don’t come on here all that often - I just don’t remember getting a post notification for it, since I have them on.

@susanr I just saw this. I’ve been on SOH less and less, too. As usual, all I can recommend is to avoid the nastiness when you’ve had enough.
As for the bug list, I think you covered it all. The biggest one for me is the “cut off” bug.

Also, the ignore list would be nice. And a list of users ignoring me :)

Image proportions in both picture polls and profile pics. You can scale and crop all you want, but the images always display in the wrong proportions, thus distorting the image. To get around it, we have to take images into editing apps to scale them ourselves.

In addition, supporting png, jpeg and gif would be great. Currently, it seems only png is supported. JPEG used to be but isn’t anymore. It will accept them, but the poll never appears once submitted.

On iPad, in personal messaging, fix the message entry field so it’s not hidden by the keyboard. Also, the the same field vanishes and the only way I’ve found to get it back is to rotate the device.

Make like counts start at zero on poll ratings. Also, if a poll goes below zero, show it as negative. Or better yet, only have a like feature. Get rid of the dislike feature.

Pizza night would be fun.

The main bugs I care about are standard ones... truncated comments, opting out of thread notifications, etc. Plus that it always says I have 1-3ish new polls when I actually don’t have any. It bugs the OCD in me!

What’s driving good people away isn’t the bugs, it’s the general environment. I agree with MCW that a good moderator(s) *could* make a difference. I saw one user tell another to kill himself recently. Didn’t someone get banned for that in Tony’s day? I don’t know with free speech and all but enforcement of general rules plummeted when tony left.

So much is contributing to it but something has to change with regards to the general enjoyability factor or the app will continue to devolve with or without bug fixes. I don’t know if there’s anything that realistically can be done about it but I think a lot of us are considering leaving or scaling way back because of it.

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Getting rid of the dislike option for rating polls?!? Yes!!! I like that suggestion a lot!

Yeah I’m pretty much done with this app. It was fun, now it’s not.

Good luck everyone. I’m on Facebook if you can find me.

And FYI, I too didn’t receive a notification for the August 31st discussion, but I did for the comment yesterday. Just thought I’d let you know.

If I didn’t have that FB connection to you, voc, I’d probably be crying right now.

I have no idea what happened to the notifications the first time around. SOH brain fart?

Aww. Thanks Susan. I’m glad we connected on there too.

I know where to find you! Lol

Sheesh. You sit outside someone’s house in their bushes ONE time, and they think you’re there all the time.

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I’ve been on SOHbattical for a little while too. I’ll try to catch up on this thread ASAP but the bug I hate the most is the one where if I accidentally swipe my post while editing it, it takes me back to the previous page and I lose my brilliant comment! 😭

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This is VERY important as it allows miscreants to impersonate others and causes a lot of hurt feelings and misunderstandings, and people even saying they’re going to quit the app!

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And yes, I would love larger font sizes....it’s often quite hard for me to read the comments....and will get even harder the older we get.

Especially the first. It’s ridiculous that it’s so easy to impersonate people!

I don’t really care about this. I’m in the habit of putting a space there.

Many of us are in the habit. On the other hand, I see lots of instances where people think they are tagging others, but they do it incorrectly. It can easily cause misunderstandings.

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I don’t really care about this.

I don’t care about either stat. I wouldn’t bother fixing, but would it be easy to simply remove them?

I like the “agrees with you” option

I liked the agrees with you stat

I don’t care about this. I like photo polls.

Not important. Occasionally annoying, but on the grand scheme of things, I’d let it go.

I want numbers 1 and 2, very much.

I don’t want number 3. Here’s how to get around the ignore feature. Use the “share” option to generate a link to the poll on the web site. (Not “share with your followers,” the other share.)

Then, paste the URL into your browser. As long as you are not signed onto SOH on the web site, you can read all comments, but not reply to them.

I have found it useful, especially when I suspect somebody is talking about me, behind my back. You can’t reply, which is fine.

I have seen number 4 used maliciously in my own polls.

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Belated...

1. Yes yes yes!!
2. No no no!! Multiple reasons.
3. There’s a way to get around the ignore still. It’s through the website. It’s been at least 1.5 years since it was though. And only one person would take the time to figure out how to use it so it’s a nonissue. Overall I say get rid of the website. Unless it’s already gone since the rules/privacy pages load but the main page doesn’t.
4. Never seen it or heard of it

I can’t even imagine what this means, since I’ve always been on the iPad the entire time. Sounds like nice things to have, but is not nearly as important to me as us not being able to see the question in the comments!

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Not important to me. I’ve learned to copy long comments to my clipboard, as a precaution.

THIS IS MY NUMBER ONE REQUEST! I have to post the poll question in EVERY single poll I comment on! That is VERY frustrating and time consuming. Even MORE frustrating is when I happen to FORGET to post the poll question, and we get into a discussion and I can’t remember the exact wording of the question. This has caused more than a few misunderstandings and knock down drag outs! PLEASE fix this!

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I’m not an iPad user, but I agree 100%! I have seen the confusion it causes.

I like B the most out of all these options.

I agree with 4jc.

They need to allow links and photos to be shared in messages.

Tony never intended messaging in SOH to be full-featured, like a real messaging app.

However, clickable links would be great!

I know that he never meant it to be fully functional....but that has caused a LOT of us to go off app and carry on our convos there.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing, because it allows us to stay in touch with others if there are problems within THIS app.

But there are some that don’t WANT to set up another account to talk to people here, and they just do without sharing links. I’m in a situation like that right now. Someone wanted to talk about something privately, and I wanted to share a link with this person, but they’re not able to do another account, so we’re just doing without that convo.

And if SoH wants us to spend more time on THEIR app, this might be something they want to fix, as I spend a lot of time every day, talking to my friends from here on 4 other apps!

Of course, this is not my FIRST choice of things they fix, though. That would be seeing the question in the comment section!

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Actually, as I recall it, Tony said messaging should primarily be to exchange contact info, so people could talk off the app. The idea was that people might not want to give out contact info publicly, so they could use a PM in SOH, then continue the conversation off app.

Susan, is that what you remember?

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Yes, that’s what I’ve been told as well...but I don’t WANT to give my contact info to a lot of people that I want to talk to privately on SoH. So I had to find other ANONYMOUS apps to do so. It would just be a lot easier if we could do that within the app, instead of someone having to set up another account. But like I said, it’s not my top priority.

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They need to completely rework the messages section, and make ALL the message boxes like the initial message box for the iPad.

Would be nice, but I don’t feel strongly.

I don’t feel strongly about this one, either, as I talk to people from SoH on 4 other apps, and my number one priority is allowing iPad users to see the question in the comment section.

Yes, editing is nearly impossible. And it’s frustrating to not have a character count.

When this happens, it shows the scrolling thing going around only a couple of times, instead of the longer scrolling, multiple time. It’s like a reverse time out.

Agree with this, but acts very low priority.

I have to use a 3rd party app to put borders around all pic polls. Fixing this would cut down on a lot of time I spend on this!

1 and 3 are most important of these 4, imho.

1 Would help. 15 characters often isn’t enough.

2: Why can’t we use a comma?

3. Would be nice, but low priority. Most questions can be edited into the character limit.

4. Don’t care.

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I’ll just add to what you said about number 3, GA. I’ve actually had to break down my 1600 polls into separate polls because I couldn’t fit it all in one question box. I’ve seen others that had to do so much abbreviating that the question didn’t make sense. And I’ve had to tell them the rest is in the comments.

But again, not my top priority! 😂🤣😂

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I’d like to be able to target to Christians.....and it’s frustrating that we can’t do this and others horn in on the convo.

There should be more categories available.

Which ones would you want, GA?

I don’t suppose there are enough Jews on the app to justify a category, but I have occasionally thought of a question I’d like to ask my fellow Jews.

But, how about this? Keep Christians and make a new category that combines Christians and Jews? That would be useful for discussions of God, the Bible, etc. - things we have in common.

How about targeting to geographical regions (a city, state, region)? Or targeting by age groups? We could brainstorm a lot of stuff.

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Yes, Jews/Christians would be great in addition to the just Christians one. That would be one of my top choices!

Yeah, that sounds good....I’d like to know what people in certain regions of the country think from time to time....you could even make the same poll targeted to different sections of the country....to see if there are differences!

And the age range would be good as well. Another might be male or female.

It would be great if they would eventually set up the multi choice polls, where we could look at our results by demographics, but I don’t think that would be as affective as the SOH polls doing it, since we’re limited to less than a couple of hundred voters.

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Don’t care at all. I never use this feature.

Don’t care.

This one drives me nuts! Very inconsistent and confusing.

My number 1 annoyance!!!!!

Mine too!!!

This is why I discovered my hack. I just wish more people would use it until it is fixed.

Comment appears in its entirety in both orientations on the iPad. On the iPhone - not so much. It's OK in portrait, but the last line does not appear in landscape orientation.

Not fixed. Nuts.

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I saw “last line” on my iPhone 6.

What is this 5.5.0.3 update? A beta that was never released?

No, it wasn’t a beta. Either I miswrote the version number, or... I don’t know what else could explain it. Both my iPhone and iPad show the current version as 5.5.0.2. The App Store shows just 5.5.0; I’m not sure why.

It wasn’t a beta, because they hadn’t used the beta testers since November 2015. This poll was posted on 5/16/2017, which I’m pretty sure was when the last update was released. I was hoping the truncation error thing had gotten fixed - remember, that was the update after they asked in a SOH poll which bugs bugged us the most, and the App Store description claims this update has “Lots of bug fixes!”... So I was checking.

But why I called it 5.5.0.3, I don’t know.

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Oh, I didn’t notice this was an older comment. I thought it was part of your bug list and that was confusing to me. 😊

But, the weird thing is, I *do^ see your last line of that comment.

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long-comment truncation error bug got fixed in the 5.5.0.3 update.

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Last line.

Another line.

Testing to see whether the long-comment truncation error bug got fixed in the 5.5.0.3 update.

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Last line.xx

Do you see “xx” at the end there?

You get an A for Adventuresome, or something. How did you even find it? I closed it as fast as I could, and it doesn't show any votes, even now!

I was checking something about the built-in targeting options, to answer a question for 4JC - it didn't even require posting a poll to check, but I stupidly tapped on Post instead of Edit, and boom, there it went... Testing stuff used to be a lot easier when I could use a nondescript account that no one followed so no one would see it, but now with the Tap list, it's just out there, until it gets closed.

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Oh, never mind the query about the votes - of course that's a non-issue after a poll is closed. That also explains how my comment below got 2 likes with no votes, which I also just noticed, but I still wonder how anyone found the poll.

It sent me a notification that you posted a poll. When I didn't find it in the "new" category, I figured you took it down. I just tapped on the notification, and boom! Here I am! 🤠

Oh, of course. I haven't had that notification turned on for so long I forgot that anyone else does. I really should use a test account when I'm testing, but it means deleting & reinstalling SOH twice. Not really a big deal, but I wasn't planning on making an idiot mistake. And besides, now it technically violates the new TOS. (Not that that really worries me.)