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swervin May 16th, 2017 9:12pm

My last day in Japan and I wanted to share my thoughts on a topic that most people probably don't think about when they hear Japan, racism.

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FacePalm That Trick Never Works
05/17/17 1:18 am

Thanks for sharing your insights. Perspective is always valuable, although that is a tough way to gain it 😕 Do you think you would like to return someday?

My I extend an early, "Welcome home" I hear that Maryland is lovely 😊

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swervin Maryland
05/20/17 12:14 pm

No, I don't think I will ever return. It was a horrible experience (not because of these few happenings, but overall with being in the Navy overseas). It's not something I ever want to do again.

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
05/16/17 11:41 pm

Oh that's not shocking. Most asians I've ever met are racist as hell lol

Anyways hope the rest of your stay there was great.

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catpillow Florida West Coast
05/16/17 8:55 pm

You've learned a good lesson and I appreciate your sharing it.

So, will your bunny be waiting for you when you get home?

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catpillow Florida West Coast
05/16/17 9:56 pm

Sheldon, right?

swervin Maryland
05/16/17 11:41 pm

Lol, no he is getting there a few days later. We had to pay a company to ship him (it costs 1300 bucks!) because the Navy refused to book us on a United flight where he could be a carry on. So now we have to hope that he is ok as he flys cargo on Friday.

catpillow Florida West Coast
05/16/17 11:47 pm

Wow, that is one expensive little bunny. I'm sure he's worth it. I hope the flight doesn't scare him and that you have a happy reunion. I'm sure I'm not the only one looking forward to bunny pictures.

swervin Maryland
05/16/17 11:51 pm

Haha, I really do need to update my display picture. That was him over 3 years ago.

ctskapski NB MD
05/16/17 8:38 pm

Yeah, Japan is really racist.

I'd like to speak to a gaijin who was raised in Japan. Get that minority perspective without the experience of not being the majority before, but I haven't had the opportunity. I think it would be interesting.

Desensitized
05/16/17 4:48 pm

Asians here in Nevada are quite racist against black men. We have escort services that many foreign girls are part of, and they say specifically no black men lol. Asians are the new master race.
Also, ive just been told by an unreliable source that Rome had feminism right before the fall of Rome. And everyone knows of the gay rights activism in pre Nazi Germany. I think this is what the apocalypse looks like.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
05/17/17 7:56 am

In preEngland Ireland women and Jews were equal. If a child was so hungry that he stole bread it was that shame on the community that a child should be hungry.

Desensitized
05/17/17 9:45 am

Not sure how that relates but cool

Desensitized
05/17/17 10:59 pm

I guess but ireland never fell. It kinda just transitioned.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
05/17/17 11:54 pm

Ireland most certainly did fall. The British conquered it. Cromwell slaughtered people. And one town he put every single person in the church. The baby at the breast too old. He stacked pear around the The cathedral and roasted everybody live. The pillage the con vents in the church and turn them in to the church of England. It was a death sentence to speak the tongue. Thus bush schools were established. If you improved your land you were throwing off. When the potato famine hit people were throwing off their land to starve to death.

sea California
05/16/17 4:17 pm

I guess it's human not to have empathy until you experience it yourself. I see lots of comments on here that downplay racism. But if you've never been the minority and been discriminated against then you don't know the emotional trauma that racism creates.

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MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
05/16/17 3:41 pm

You ever hear of an MDGOP event I'll probably be there lol. Also there is a whiskey bar in Annapolis that just opened I've wanted to try out.

swervin Maryland
05/16/17 3:47 pm

Never heard of that. I haven't set foot in the US for a year and a half though, so I don't really keep up with any events.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
05/16/17 6:59 pm

My son is retired Navy my son-in-law's retired Marine

imanag My heaven on Earth
05/16/17 3:20 pm

I'm sorry that you had to through that @swervin but I'm glad that you took it as a learning experience. So, where are you and the family heading now?

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swervin Maryland
05/16/17 3:26 pm

Back to Maryland! It's where all her family is at and I didn't get selected for orders to Tennessee where my family was at. So at least we are near one of our families.

imanag My heaven on Earth
05/16/17 3:49 pm

That's wonderful!! It'll be nice to be close to family and TN isn't that far of a drive from MD. Thanks for your service. You and your family are appreciated!

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
05/16/17 6:59 pm

EXCITED grandparents!!!!!

Kay41 the Midwest
05/16/17 2:59 pm

Great perspective and thoughts!

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Tariq88 Utah
05/16/17 2:56 pm

I am sorry you had to go through that. I am glad that something good came from it though.

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
05/16/17 2:44 pm

Appreciate your comments & observations. A lot of people on this forum need to get out more.

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swervin Maryland
05/16/17 2:19 pm

After spending 3 years in Japan and having been denied service at several establishments for nothing other than the color of my skin, it gave me time to reflect. I was often the one speaking out for businesses to refuse service to anyone, for any reason, without having ever been denied services myself. Now, I have experienced it first hand. It fucking sucks. Nothing is more embarrassing than having someone hold up their arms in an X shape and say "no gaijin" meaning no foreigners. It threw me for a loop the first time it happened. The next few times, it became more tolerable. I learned the places to avoid, the places that wouldn't serve me for no other reason than I wasn't from here. Being white in a place dominated by non white people taught me the life lesson that I think other people should learn, being different is fucking hard sometimes.

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swervin Maryland
05/16/17 2:25 pm

So treat other people as if you would be treated that way yourself. If you wouldn't want to be denied service somewhere because of your skin color or sexual preference, don't do it to someone else.
That being said, I always found a place to take my money when I wanted food and the all mighty dollar (or Yen in this case) speaks louder any xenophobia and you will find someone to accept you, if you try hard enough. I still believe that anyone should be able to deny the right to serve anyone else, but now I do it with first hand experience from the other side. It sucks, but I wouldn't want to give my money to someone who hated me for no reason anyways.

Iamamerican California
05/16/17 2:26 pm

When it happens to someone personally, it certainly puts a different spin on things.

It happened to my family in Alabama because my hubby is Hispanic. The restaurant we were in told us they were out of food.... really?

swervin Maryland
05/16/17 2:34 pm

Yeah, it really shakes a person up. It's weird and sort of angering but when you stop and think about it, why am I getting upset that I'm not paying this person who hates me any money. I can find someone who accepts me and give them money instead. Let that business suffer because of it.

4JC Christian Pastors Wife
05/16/17 2:40 pm

Iamamerican I'm surprised at that, because I live in an AL community that has a LOT of Hispanics. Was this many years ago or recently? Were you just traveling through AL at the time? What restaurant was it?

Now I HAVE been to fast food places and told they were out of CERTAIN foods, especially if it's later at night, and that is legitimate.

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4JC Christian Pastors Wife
05/16/17 2:41 pm

Part 2. Swervin, we got to experience what you experienced when we moved to Baton Rouge and our kids were in school there. There had been white flight from the schools. All that could afford $500 per month per child had their kids in private school, leaving a VAST majority black school system.

When we walked into the gym for an assembly on the first day of school, my son was walking really stiffly. I asked him what was wrong, and he said, "Where are the white people?" I looked around and saw he was correct.

I later had to take a school project to him that he had left at home, and when I walked into his classroom, my child and I were the only whites in the room.

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4JC Christian Pastors Wife
05/16/17 2:41 pm

Part 3. Of course, all of this was intimidating enough, without factoring in that the black students wore shirts to school that said, "Whites enslaved my ancestors, so I'm going to kill whites." And this kind of thing was allowed in school. Kids were pulling knives and guns on bus drivers, so I didn't even try to get a job there.

Our sons were transferred to a "better" school for advanced students the next year. It was surrounded by a fence with razor wire, and you had to ring a door bell and talk through an intercom to gain entrance to the school.

We QUICKLY learned that we were VERY protected in AL and that the NOTORIOUS race relations problems that AL is stereotypical for were NOTHING compared to other places. We'd never had those kinds of problems in AL.

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Iamamerican California
05/16/17 2:59 pm

This was years ago in Huntsville and I'm sure things have changed. It was a restaurant affiliated with the motel we were staying in. We didn't have a problem with anything else while we were there.
I have family who lives there and has for years.

4JC Christian Pastors Wife
05/16/17 4:02 pm

Thanks, Iamamerican. I'm glad to hear you haven't had that experience in AL since then. I'm so sorry that you did that once. I'm very sensitive about the stereotypical views that most people have about the state that I love! Lol

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Iamamerican California
05/16/17 4:05 pm

It's a great place to visit....except for the tornadoes! 😊

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
05/16/17 4:17 pm

I love your insight. You have truly grown.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
05/16/17 4:22 pm

I really stopped respecting unions when I was ticketing for the farmer workers union. The Teamsters union did not hesitate to cross the picket line. They would've brought this down with their trucks. I guess pick up lines are only important for white people at the time.

swervin Maryland
05/16/17 4:52 pm

Thanks Tops. I really do learn a lot in the Navy, even if it sucks sometimes. 😆

rons screw politicians
05/16/17 5:53 pm

A coworker at our site in Middletown Va where his lived for 18 yrs (born and bred two towns south) told me he had few friends in Middletown. He said that if you Grandpappy ain't buried here you don't belong here! And I thought Vermonters were bad!

Suzan Hawaii
05/16/17 10:01 pm

I live in Hawaii and have had that type of treatment . It just makes you weary

rons screw politicians
05/17/17 4:15 am

I lived in Brooklyn and we were the 40th street boys, our rivals were the 39th St boys.

musicotic Michigan
05/19/17 6:24 am

This is why we need anti-discrimination laws.

Iamamerican California
05/19/17 9:24 am

We have them......but many things have been turned upside down in the last 8 years.

4JC Christian Pastors Wife
05/19/17 2:56 pm

Swervin, we experienced the same thing when we moved to Baton Rouge and my kids were in all black schools. And whites are going to be experiencing what this is like very soon in America! Check out this article:

www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/05/17/explaining-why-minority-births-now-outnumber-white-births/

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