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RJ1969 July 19th, 2013 11:31pm

If media outlets contrive "news" to create "a story" to increase specific demographic viewership in the pursuit of profits, is that OK, in your opinion?

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JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
07/19/13 9:40 pm

The Constitutional protection of freedom of the press was not intended for the media to inundate the public with propaganda and outright lies for the sake of profits. Most people want the truth, not a healthy bottom line for the media.

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Ernest Make it so
07/19/13 8:32 pm

To me, the news should do one thing, and one thing only: report the news unbiasedly and professionally. Let the people draw their own conclusion I say.

flyberg Northern Kentucky
07/19/13 6:43 pm

Not while pretending to be news. If they want to call themselves reality TV or something else, then it's be fine.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/19/13 6:32 pm

Sometimes they're not lying, per se. They've just been fooled, like the time when they ran with the Daily Kos study hoax saying that Fox viewers were mentally deficient.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/19/13 10:28 pm

The sourcing of stories has fallen into disfavor these days, it seems. :-(

Praetorianus Fair enough.
07/19/13 6:30 pm

The only agenda of news agencies is to inform the public.
If they want to spin, they can say all they want if it's clearly marked as commentary or opinion. PICKING the news they think get them more of the audience they want is okay.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
07/19/13 6:31 pm

The first "is" should be "should be".

huskermedic Cincinnati
07/19/13 6:13 pm

If you lie to make news that is wrong.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
07/19/13 5:12 pm

It's a form of fraud for profit in my view, and in the case of a broadcaster holding a license, ought to be prosecuted as such. At the very least, pull their license after the second offense if the huge fine for the first offense didn't do it.

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/19/13 5:04 pm

It's ok if they admit it. But if they promote themselves as 'fair and balanced' or something similar while pushing an agenda or target marketing their 'news' not so much.

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beanD California
07/19/13 5:01 pm

No, but it's never going to change. This has been happening ever since the Spanish-American War and the industrial revolution, and probably before that, too.

chickencookie It really is
07/19/13 5:00 pm

Your question will never change NBC's mind.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 5:04 pm

I wouldn't expect into. But maybe chickencookie would think about it a little bit....

DavesNotHere where am I
07/19/13 4:52 pm

Report the news, don't create it.

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rlands
07/19/13 4:44 pm

Of course. Why tell them what they have to report and how they have to report it? News sources shouldn't be required to be unbiased. Of course this is ok with me.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 4:46 pm

So, you're ok with propaganda? Being fed false narratives for someone else's idea of a good thing?

rlands
07/19/13 4:48 pm

Yeah. It's not like they're blatantly lying. It's just spin. Who am I to say they can't promote their agenda? Who specifically would we submit to those rules if implemented?

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
07/19/13 4:49 pm

The guy living in DC is okay with "spin".
Shocking.
;-)

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 4:51 pm

rlands, I don't know. It's a question we can explore.

rlands
07/19/13 4:51 pm

Ha. Good one. In any case, it's more about not regulating the press. I think that's preposterous.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 5:00 pm

People in other countries that see what disinformation in this country does to our people think this "system" is preposterous.

rlands
07/19/13 5:02 pm

I just don't think it's that bad. Like I said, it's just spin. And most people can differentiate between cold hard facts and personal opinion. Even if they couldn't though, I still wouldn't have a huge problem with it. Let them report what they want.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 5:06 pm

I don't agree with you. I do not think most people can.

Sophistry is alive and well.

How did that work out for Socrates again?

rlands
07/19/13 5:12 pm

But it's not outright deception. Like companies saying "made with real fruit juice" for products that have 0% real fruit juice, that is an issue. That's straight up lying. Bias isn't lying.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 5:13 pm

Hmmm. A lie of omission isn't a lie? How is "spin" held in a court of law? Can the same approach by utilized by your doctor? You kids?

rlands
07/19/13 5:17 pm

This isn't the same thing as a court of law. Objectivity is essential to law; it's the core aspect of the judicial system. It isn't really comparable to the media. And I'm having a hard time figuring out what "spin" would be for a doctor...

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 5:21 pm

"Oh yeah. Those side effects....nahhhh! You're fine. Just....don't move....like, for a month."

rlands
07/19/13 5:26 pm

Never had that happen to me, not have I heard it happening to others. In any case, that's straight up lying. It's denial of facts which one knows to be completely true. That isn't bias/spin/whatever you want to call it.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/19/13 4:42 pm

It seems to be prevalent, but they are not only doing it, they're thriving.

We're against it,yet we're directly supporting it without $$$.

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FyndFyre Moon Base Alpha
07/19/13 4:42 pm

The purpose of news is to provide information, not please people.

But of course, raw facts don't make them as much money.

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
07/19/13 4:41 pm

It's not news if it's contrived. It's Marketing.

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Angela12 Anyang, South Korea
07/19/13 4:41 pm

They can do what they want, but they've lost my respect.

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