Does the TSA provide value?
I think prostitutes are probably cheaper.
Yes, but theres always someone in the system who is gonna eff it up for everyone.. Just like the police.
I flew on monday and it was a breeze. Its really not that bad.
Even when i flew to international to england in Oct.
I've given up flying until the draconian restrictions are eased. Especially the porno machines. Get rid of them.
I don't think the government should say what citizens can or can't bring on a privately owned plane.
I don't know about that. I can think of a lot of things I wouldn't want coming in on a private plane...
Me too. But it should be left up to the owner of the plane, not the government.
But what if the plane owner is selling kidnapped kids as sex slaves or something like that? I'd sure like someone to catch that!
That's already illegal. Owning 10 ounces of liquid is not.
Ok, now I'm with you
What? I can make up whatever scenario I want! My brain tends to go to worst case scenarios, then decide if it's worth the risk. The way I interpreted her comment, I thought the risk was too high.
Annoyance, delays and a good groping if you want it, but not value.
I love me a good groping.
For me, yeah! You know how much I love it when strangers grab up on my package!
It's disgusting that Americans submit to this and even more abhorrent that some support it
Agreed. "It prevents terrorism!" or the classic "It's for your own safety!".
It's disgusting that terrorists exist.
TSA is a royal pain in the ..., but unfortunately a necessary one. I've had people tell me we don't need them because we haven't had an attack since 9/11. Duh...... I don't want to fly on a plane that has no security.
Causation fallacy. If I patrol my city to deter elephants and no elephants show up can I credit my efforts?
Besides, airlines and airports have an incentive to provide safety. Let them handle it.
Why would you want to deter elephants? :p
He must hate republicans.
More than you know. Aśses too.
We haven't had an attack since 9/11 thanks to the TSA.
Yeah, but not a whole lot. Mostly just protection against most high explosives, which is something the average passenger can neither identify, nor fight.
They protect you from toothpaste. You can bring as many 3.0 oz tubes you want but don't you dare bring a half used 6.0 oz tube
That being the "most" high explosives, not all.
All the stupid rules are–obviously–stupid, but the bomb sniffers and the carry on x-rays are helpful.
So you support warrantless searches?
Flying is a privilege. You can choose not to, if you don't want to be searched. For the record, I'd rather the airlines were responsible for their own security, but no, I don't mind bomb scans before flights.
Travel is a right, the method of which is not subject to debate. You can't just say "this activity is a privilege and therefore you have zero rights". Don't you see how dangerous of an attitude that is?
Don't own a home if you don't want it searched! Don't bear arms unless you want to be harassed! Don't you know, these people put their lives on the line for your privileges!
You don't wanna get searched, you can fly your own plane wherever it is you're going. An airline has a right to demand all its passengers be searched, and you have a right to refuse that search by refusing their services.
So it's the airline that's making these demands? Here I thought it was government agencies. Odd.
I didn't say it was the airlines. I said it should be up to the airlines, and they should scan for bombs.
"An airline has a right to demand all its passengers be searched"
When's the last time you saw an airline arguing against having the TSA search its passengers. This is all done with the consent of the airlines. That it wasn't their idea has no legal ramifications whatsoever.
This is an example of private airlines consenting to allow searches of all of their passengers, when flying from publicly-funded airports. The TSA has no jurisdiction when you fly your Super Cub off the grass strip in the south 40 pasture.
The airlines support it simply because that means they don't have to pay for it themselves
Yes. The airlines want secure flights, because airliners exploding in the sky is bad for business. If they can get their flights secured for free, that's all good by them.
Or they have a gun to their head like the rest of us
They aren't complaining about it. They aren't trying to stop it. They like it. It is directly in their interest.
The TSA is a joke and an overreaction that should have diminished by now.
You don't know what you're talking about.
How can you tell, since I didn't really say anything?
Protective measures aren't a joke or an overreaction.
But how they are implemented can be.