Should all birth control pills be available over the counter?
Birth control, condoms, let it all be available over the counter to anyone, no matter the age and without parental consent. You cannot stop the natural act of sex, and religious parents make it worse when they don't give teens access to birth control
Because then they engage in unprotected sex.
A couple years ago they released, JAZ, now every other junk email I get is about the lawsuit against it... Thinking maybe they shouldn't be over the counter, not that JAZ was but think of all the people that would of been hurt, if they could have
No. They come with risks that need yo e explained by a doctor. I get heart pains, so birth control is a no go for me.
Yeah, and Zyrtec makes me sleepy. So I buy Allegra instead. We can make our own decisions regarding our health.
Your educated to make that call on birth control a kid is not. Yes, some drugs you need to see a md first. We have a huge problem with self medicating in this country.
Your comparing a sleep drug with one that has chest pain as a side effect? You work in the medical field. To check that stuff is normal for you.
I was actually comparing an allergy medication to BC. But if someone actually gets chest pain from taking BC, they should be under the regular care of an MD no matter what. It's not a good reason to require *everyone* to get a script for it.
I said early I am not down with scripts for it. You can mess yourself up taken aspirin. I just think parents need to have the say with any meds among other stuff.
In general, parents do have the right to be involved with their kids' healthcare, *except* for sexual/reproductive health issues. Of course, if a kid wants their parents to be involved, that's cool too.
No - I want my insurance to pay for them
No joke. If it pays for Viagra then it should pay for BC.
I had no idea that insurance covered Viagra. I'm not sure how I feel about that:
As others have touched on, there are side effects and contraindications that need to be discussed with a Dr - Why not talk to the Dr. then get them scrip free? How can the manufacturer/ distributor protect themselves?
There are side effects and contradictions with every medication, whether it's OTC or prescription.
Yep, even aspirin. For people w high blood pressure OTC decongestants can be dangerous. That's kind if a moot point here.
Absolutes like "all" are dangerous. But I don't see why some shouldn't be.
NONE SHOULD BE!!
None? Why none?
I don't have an issue with them being available over the counter. My issue is under age need parent permission. I always thought it was silly my wife had to see an MD to get permission to get the pill.
No age restrictions.
I disagree with letting kids get this and other drugs with out parents knowing.
No, because every woman is different and birth control pills are not one size fits all. If you are prescribed the wrong one, it can really mess with your hormones.
That makes sense but when you know which one to get why do you need a prescription every time? If it was prescription free do you think women would just buy a random one without considering the effect?
Yes, I do. There are plenty of idiots out there who would just pick one without a second thought. Common sense in the general public is severely lacking.
Katrina, we have several choices whenever we buy anything. Toothpaste, for example: whitening, tartar control, sensitive, with fluoride, without fluoride etc. Do we need a dentist to prescribe toothpaste to us? No. We pick something, and change...
...products if we don't like our original choice. Why would a woman need a doctor to tell her which BC to use? They're basically all low hormone these days. It's just a matter of preference regarding ratios of the different hormones.
Toothpaste isn't a medication that can have side effects.
Ok, that's not really the point. But if you want to be picky, then let's go with NSAIDs. Aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, acetaminophen etc. All the same type of drug, but each has important indications and contraindications. If you give someone the...
...wrong one, they could get a permanent illness or die. Yet they're all OTC.
There's a reason women aren't filling the boardrooms.
I don't think so, it just promotes sex. I think they should have to save face and confess to the doctor and tell them their reason for the need of such a pill.
Most women/girls who go on BC pills are already sexually active.
Proving my point. Could be the reason why teen pregnancy went though the roof when it become over the counter.
I'm on it to control endometriosis, which makes my period cramps debilitating. Some women are on it to control ovarian cysts or menstrual migraines. Preventing pregnancy is just one use, don't generalize. And is sex inherently bad?
Also, you can check out world health organization data on the US compared to other countries such as Germany and France who have comprehensive sex Ed and less bc stigma. They have much lower teen pregnancy, abortion, and std rates than the US.
Are you insane - birth control does not cause sex - and sense you seem to be getting your info from Rush Limbaugh - you don't need more pills the more sex you have - you have to take one a day no matter what. BC is used for a ton of different
Medical reasons. Leave it to men not to understand women's minds OR bodies
It shouldn't be easily accessible to teens. I'm a numbers/facts guy and have gone over the statistics. Younger women or tweens don't use it for cramps. They abuse it so they can keep their sexual activities alive why not getting preggo. Truth hurts.
Where did you read these facts?
BTW- I agree they need to see a doctor
Teenagers are going to have sex. Period. It's not new....in the 50's they were sent away to stay with a "sick aunt" to hide the fact they were pregnant or they got married and had a lot of "early" babies. BC doesn't promote sex...it just prevents
a slew of dumpster babies.
Some government site about teens and drug use. Also from first hand experience growing up the teen women around me used it only to protect themselves from getting pregnant. Poor parenting. Tell your kids the risk they run of being sexually active.
No one wants to be accountable. Hence the reason we have high teen pregnancies. It's a security blanket for them. Go to the doctor and tell him you want to have sex. Earn the pill and take on the embarrassment of your actions.
I absolutely believe good parents will be involved in discussions with kids about sex. Those really aren't the kids I'm worried about. It's the kids who don't have good parents. Or who have such strict parents they won't discuss anything but
I don't understand the accountability aspect? Unless you to are talking about parents who won't discuss sex with their children?
But we do....birth control pills are NOT available over the counter yet. And what about condoms? The girls have to tell their doctor they are a slut but the guys get to slink through the Walgreens checkout with no one the wiser? Bulls**t.
The accountable part is the over the counter part. If they can't take on the embarrassment of getting a prescription
from a doctor how are they to know the magnitude of what's going on till they get have a kid.
I also agree. Over parenting is bad and usually makes the kids rebel. That's what happened to my sister and that's why I'm so adamant about the subject. She refuses to get an education because her hands are full and lives off mom and dad's earnings.
Now - if getting in to see a doctor becomes harder because we defund all if planned parenthood, then I might change my mind. If we make getting to the doctor too difficult then we should reconsider
It's a two way street. Kids these days seem to be SLUTS and have multiple partners before they even know what love or life is. Luckily I had a high school sweetheart and we practiced safe sex.
I murder - you can really blame the kids - if it's all if them - its societal - I married my only partner as well
I'm not only placing blame on kids but their parents as well.
Lmurder, you have no idea what you're talking about. Many teens use BC for cramps or other reasons unrelated to sex. For one thing, cramps are MUCH WORSE during the teen years for many women. Also, teens who use accutane are required to be on BC...
...whether they're sexually active or not.
@lmurder- try reading a women's health text if you're a facts and figures guy as you claim, such as Our Bodies, Ourselves (college of obstetrics and gynecology). You obviously don't know what you're talking about I had cramps at 12 YEARS OLD!
And for many women cramps don't calm down until they are older or until they have a child. Want to something interesting? Comprehensive sex Ed actually increases the age kids start having sex. What basis do you have for claiming kids would have sex
More? And why aren't the boys having sex supposed to be shamed too? I see a double standard loud and clear...
Can't argue with a woman when she doesn't let common sense get in the way of her argument. I'd advise the boys to just jerk off onto their faces and tits till they're 18. Guess facts don't mean anything.
Lmurder, everyone here knows you're wrong. And now you just proved that you're sick and wrong.
@lmurder- their faces? Seriously? How demeaning. It makes me sad to see so much misogyny get in the way of facts for you. This is just sick, how would you feel if it were you? Would you want someone cumming in your face? Wow...
I had cramps bad enough I had to leave school starting at 11... which didn't stop until I had my first child 8 years later. While it didn't work for me, it helps a lot of girls and women w cramps (actually made me fertile).
And girls can buy condoms too, btw. Not just guys.
Is it that time of the month?
Who exactly is that directed to?
@lmurder- now you're going to use the period thing, FYI it's not helping your credibility, just making you look sexist. I'd read up on women's health before making the wild claims you are too. Somehow I don't think this is about bc, you clearly have
An issue with women making their own reproductive decisions. Also, refusing to acknowledge birth control's other uses like cramps isn't helping you either. I could end up infertile if I weren't on bc. Please keep this offensive bullshit to yourself.
Hope you gals aren't writing because I stopped reading. Good luck
@lmurder- LOL obviously you are if you replied. And that's cool with me, just another sexist. I bet you think men are oppressed to haha :)
How long would it be before some halfwit took a bunch and then sued the company because he still got his girlfriend pregnant.
Prescriptions protect more than just the user.
Are you saying it is easier to sue the drug maker if the product is prescription free?
Not saying you are wrong, just curious.
I'm just saying that misuse and abuse of any prescription drug is going to be more common if it is made OTC.
I think a lot of women believe BC pills are side effect free, but there are serious side effects for some women that warrant supervision.
Got it thanks, and I agree.
Women can read the package and see that there are side effects, were not illiterate. Also, the college of obstetrics and gynecology recommends making them available OTC. Do you think other OTC drugs are all side effect free?
You lost me at the part about women not being illiterate.
But seriously, while I don't believe most women are functionally illiterate, I do know that most people don't read documentation in any over-the-counter medication, And some of the risks of BC meds Are worth the inconvenience of getting a scrip.
I would say that about most prescription medications. This is not a women's issue, this is a medical management issue.
If men all got together and demanded over-the-counter Viagra I would oppose that too, for the very same reason.
What do you think about needing a script for the first time and then being able to get it once a doctor has approved it? I'd be up for that, unless more planned parenthoods close. If women start losing this dr access the issue changes somewhat.
I think extended prescriptions already exist. I'd be fine with annual updates or something similar. In my line of work I've seen 15 year old girls on BC end up having some long term health issues because they weren't getting regular evals for the BC.
They were just going to clinics where the "doctors" just signed scrips without even taking BP or asking basic questions to see if they were having problems. If that's happening with scrips, it will be much worse without.
And many of the OBGYNS pushing for this aren't necessarily doing it out of the best interests of the patients. It's time consuming, they don't make much money off of scrip appts, and most of all they can't be liable for a med they didn't sign for.
Actually, you do have to be a doctor to prescribe bc so I'm not sure why you used quotes. And I'm all for checkups, but only if there is some change in the woman's health. Until I see more support for women's clinics and stop seeing planned
Parenthoods get defunded that will be my stance. The college of obstetricians and gynecologists recommends they be available OTC. Why do health experts not matter when it's female reproduction? There are risks with many OTC drugs.
I don't think we should sacrifice anyone's health just in the name of access to a single drug type.
As with many drugs, the side effects may be overlooked by the patient.
I used quotes bc of my low opinion of pcp's who work at mill style clinics.
Have you been to one? The college found that women were fine with online counseling. If you have something dangerous to be on bc with, you don't take it.
I'm talking about kids. I've seen kids put on BC upon having their first period.
Most of the kids I've worked with had trouble reading the LABEL, much less the online documentation.
Many adults I've worked with are no better off, and
...had numerous other issues driving them to the doctor's office, so getting one more scrip was never prohibiting them from getting their BC.
I think you and I are talking about very different patient populations.
The person you're thinking of sounds literate, competent, computer literate, and with Internet access.
That is not the person I think of when I think about abusing OTC meds
I'm thinking about the girl who is 12, who hasn't told anyone she's started BC, may be taking other prescription meds that could have an interaction, might smoke, might drink, and might think BC protects her from STDS or some other nonsense.
She may forget to take them bc she doesn't have any parental supervision, she may double or triple up to "catch up" on missed doses. She might take a whole pack or two as an emergency measure.
I don't think we are considering the same factors.
With age restrictions yes.
Care do elaborate on 'nope'?
There will be no age restrictions. When it comes to sexual health, all patients have to be treated as adults. End of story.
So it wouldn't concern you at all if a 10-11 y/o girl wanted to buy birth control pills. What if it was your daughter? No concern at all?
It's much healthier for her to be on BC than be pregnant.
Additionally, your opinion of what she should or shouldn't do has nothing to do with it. It's her body and her life. This is the recommendation of the entire medical profession. If you restrict access to medical care and treatment, young people...
...will simply go without. That is dangerous to their health. So yes, I am in favor of making healthcare more accessible to all people.
Hahahhaha to funny.
Wow. Your response is frightening.
If she is my daughter my opinion counts. If my ten year old wants bc it's a no. If my fifteen year old wants birth control I will listen, if my 18 y/o wants bc she can get it herself.
Your hypothetical kid doesn't need your permission to get birth control, no matter how old she is. Sorry I'm not sorry.
I feel that drugs should be available unless there is a good reason for them to not be. There are enough possible long term consequences of different birth control options that it makes sense for there to be a required doctor visit.
This is challenging for me. What if a 10 year old wants to buy them. Should the store just accept that? I think the store should ask for ID, maybe limit to 15 years. Any younger they need prescription. On the other hand for low income women, who ...
... know what they want, why do they need a prescription?
I agree, an age requirement would be alright with me. I don't think a ten year old needs birth control, and if they think they do, what they really need is a parent.
Some ten year olds need them, not for sex, but for their period. It helps keep it regulated and on time.
If that's the case they'd probably be picking them up with a parent.
I agree with Marley17 on the point of some 10 year olds may need for that purpose, but as superhero(Im totally gunna spell the last part wrong) said, a parent would more than likely be with them.
Yea, it's probably very rare that a ten year old would need it, let alone know what it is. But a 15 year old may need it, but everyone just assumes she's sexually active. Birth control is used for other things besides pregnancy prevention.
Agree with all of you about the 10 year old. I just didn't spell it out.
Would it not also be dangerous if a ten year old went out and bought aspirin, taking it without supervision? Or cough medicine? Epinephrine, asthma meds you can buy OTC?
No age restrictions...
I think for them to be effective and safe over the long term they need to be dispensed under a doctor's supervision. As opposed to the single-dose emergency contraceptives, daily use pills balance the lowest effective dose against long-term safety.
There are so many side effects, they should be prescribed by a doctor.
Yes. It is recommended that they be by the college of obstetricians and gynecologists that they be, but I know women's health experts frequently get the lowest priority on these issues unfortunately.
Haha didn't read that before posting, my bad
When testosterone is available over the counter - then yes. Until the, nope.
What? I guess I'm not seeing the connection
No. They come with a health risk and can intact negatively with other medications. A script isn't hard to get...
I don't know enough about the pills to make that decision. I don't know what their potential, like Tide to Meth, for harm is.
I would suggest taking birth control pills over ingestion of Tide or meth, ha.
Right, obviously. I'm merely expressing honestly my ignorance about the pill. Yes, I'm aware that holding it between your knees is how some joked it should be used, but I'm simply not educated as to its chemical make up, is all I mean.
I know. I'm just joking around, bro. Couldn't pass up the perfectly set up opportunity.
I get it.. I was just kinda hoping for a Chemistry lesson. I'd like to answer this question with more information. Is there anyway they can be used for other purposes that you know of?.. Can they mess you up if taken wrong? Can they be taken wrong?
It's just like any other medication. If you use it other than directed it can cause problems and everyone's body can react differently. There's no "blanket chemistry" lesson.
If you pay for it, why not?
I change my mind. it should be prescribed.
Nope. If you're going to regularly ingest medication you should have medical guidance. Even if it's checking in with a free clinic gynecologist once a year, you should have someone helping you monitor your reproductive & general health.
Just curious. What do you think about Plan B?
There's a reason I snuck the word regularly in there. :) Plan B OTC is logical, since it's an "emergency" & you (hopefully) aren't taking it daily like a contraceptive pill. I'm also someone who is in disbelief when people have no gynecological....
...guidance whatsoever, so ideally in my mind women have spoken with someone about various prevention & how it affects their health. I know that isn't practical at all so I think people should live & let live and provide it OTC, it's the logical way.
If someone wants to not have a child that's their right, who are we to say they can't, and they could end up in a situation where they're pregnant with and don't want the child what then
I'm trying to get back on the pill and this has really been bugging me. I cant fathom the reasons why it isn't easily available.
I know--I go to my gyno once a year, wait two hours for a five minute appt, just because I need a new birth control prescription. Ridiculous.
Planned Parenthood will be way more effective than an OBGYN in practice since the latter will make a whole medical sideshow out of it since they're for-profit. Just a suggestion incase you haven't tried that route.
Find someone new Angela! That's insane. Even for a post-op appointment at mine I only had to wait 20 minutes.
I'm going to. She's just so great when you finally get to talk to her, I always second guess wanting to go through the process of finding a new one. :/
I'm in the same boat, Angela. I already had my pap and I don't even need to see a doctor again...but I have to in order to get these damn pills. Plus, I have to wait almost three weeks just for an appt. It drives me insane.
I know, it's even recommended by the college of obstetricians and gynecologists...it's all political. If only we weren't a patriarchal society...lol
As long as nothing in them is proven substantially harmful to women. If they're dangerous for youngsters, though, there should be an age requirement.
If they're potentially dangerous to any woman, they should require a prescription. I honestly haven't done enough research into the varying forms to know if any such type exists.
The pill can increase the risk of cancer, interfere with other medication, ect.
To be fair, just about everything "causes" cancer so, make your own inferences about that information.
Bakes, this increases the chance of certain cancers (including breast). Any pill you take with that risk that also can interfere with needed daily medication, should be monitored by a physician.
Not to mention that different women need different doses.
My last comment still stands.
Angela and rosebud, everything you're saying also applies to pretty much everything we ingest and/or use. It's no reason for BC to need a prescription.
I say, why not? Condoms are.