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rebelfury76 July 12th, 2013 10:13am

Guardian reports that Microsoft allowed the government access to its email servers and aided them in the ability to intercept and record Skype video calls. Are you angry yet?

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Homgrwn Lost
07/14/13 11:57 am

No because I don't have a Skype account and never used it.

Emily33 North Carolina
07/12/13 7:13 am

So I should probably be more careful with what I do on Skype? Noted.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:41 am

We'll have to keep our chats pg from now on

Emily33 North Carolina
07/12/13 7:48 am

Damn. Maybe we could get away with PG-13?

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:53 am

I can settle on that. ;)

curly
07/12/13 6:51 am

This is getting ridiculous.

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kspells TheOtherOtherside
07/12/13 6:45 pm

No the only thing getting ridiculous is peoples reactions. And the ridiculous idea that anyone especially the Government would be interested in their lives. It's ridiculous that people think what they share in public is personal or data disappears.

rlands
07/12/13 6:43 am

Haha that's kind of weird. I should probably read terms and conditions from now on. If it isn't in there though or the privacy policy, I'll be angry at Microsoft.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:01 am

It likely says "comply with laws and regulations" or some vague crap. You know it's the NSA and FBI you should be mad at right? They're the ones issuing the threats.

rlands
07/12/13 7:05 am

It's not a threat. I think they should have some degree of authority over private communications. It's not like they've ever watched my Skype video calls anyway though.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:40 am

1: WHAT?
2: ...what?!
3: how do you know?

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:42 am

And the threat is there should Microsoft not comply. It's the govt's fault and they're overstepping their bounds. This is a "quest for evidence" or a "search", and we're supposed to be safe from those.

rlands
07/12/13 7:45 am

But they wouldn't do it without reasonable cause. They aren't going to waste their time if they aren't looking for something specific. They aren't going to monitor you for fun. I don't get why it's that big of a deal.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:52 am

They've submitted thousands and thousands of requests on tens of thousands of American citizens. Do you honestly think they had "reasonable suspicion" for all of those?

rlands
07/12/13 8:00 am

According to Microsoft: “we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers”.

If it's that specific, there must be reasonable cause. They wouldn't just make up a name and submit a request for it.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 8:31 am

Sounds like PR and how can you be so sure

rlands
07/12/13 9:22 am

Because the government is made up of people. Citizens like you and me. My congressman goes to his kids soccer games, shops at the grocery store, just like the rest of us. I trust the government because I have rights and freedoms now and it's great.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/12/13 12:05 pm

The government exists to further its own existence.
The intelligence community is part of the government. If the intelligence community desires to further its own existence, it needs to be needed.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/12/13 12:06 pm

What better way than by stockpiling intelligence on millions of Americans?
The slightest, off-handed joke thrown out online can now become a 'national security' concern.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/12/13 12:06 pm

And who's concerned with 'national security'? That's right. The intelligence community.

It's circular, yes. And that's my point. They need to be needed in order to further their own existence.

skinner Wisconsin
07/12/13 6:29 am

I've been angry

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PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
07/12/13 6:27 am

I'm sick of the government overstepping bounds. Where in the constitution does it say they can do this?!

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:01 am

No where. Which means its a worthless artifact.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/12/13 12:10 pm

No where. Which means that We the People, as the fourth branch of government, need to stand up and tell them they no longer have permission to run our lives and order us around.

kspells TheOtherOtherside
07/12/13 12:36 pm

Where does it say they can't . Besides it always been buyer beware & read the fine print. The info has been there no secrets just a few ore shocked. Other know it's not about their Rights.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
07/12/13 6:08 pm

It says they can't when it says that all other powers are reserved for the states and the people.

kspells TheOtherOtherside
07/12/13 6:30 pm

Anything that is shared with the public has never been protected as private. Private means what you mean to keep hidden from others. Bouncing it off satellites or putting on the world wide web is public. Always has been.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/12/13 5:37 am

Hell, I'm always angry with Micro$oft. Now I have a valid excuse!

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 7:02 am

What about the FBI.

MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
07/12/13 5:23 am

This has been going on for decades. My FIL was an engineer for AT&T, he told me that every time they had a new technology, that the FBI would make demands to be able to access it. They always complied because they didn't want to have the government

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/12/13 5:25 am

It'll stop when we make it stop. We outnumber them.

Matt1981 The Who Dat Nation
07/12/13 5:50 am

Amen! The people in this country need to hold the power. Not the government. We all have a right to privacy.

comppete Las Vegas
07/12/13 12:45 pm

@Matt, apparently, we all don't have the right to privacy any longer. Not for more than a decade.

DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
07/12/13 5:07 am

That's why you don't put information on the net that you don't want anyone to get.

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TomM
07/12/13 6:07 am

And exactly how do you avoid using the web. Everything is there, form this app to email to web bank etc

DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
07/12/13 7:32 am

You limit the amount of personal information that you freely share.

TomM
07/12/13 8:33 am

I understand. I'm just venting ... I don't like how I can't do anything without making all my private information public.
The other day I wanted to leave a comment in an online forum. I had to sign in via Facebook, so I gave up.

TomM
07/12/13 4:49 am

I'm not using Skype, I have nothing to hide. ...
Just joking, I was angry already, now I've come to the stage where I just have to laugh uncontrolled to stay sane.

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TomM
07/12/13 4:49 am

And I like the "yet" comment :-)

kilokalex Sanity is for the weak
07/12/13 4:08 am

They got my naked Skype video. :(

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