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Show Of Hands December 27th, 2016 9:58pm

Is the United States the most innovative country in the world?

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mfjd1948 rural johnson co iowa
01/04/17 8:59 pm

Yes. But Germany comes very close passing us by.

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
01/01/17 11:04 am

In which category?

This reminds me of the question during The Newsroom episode 1.

FairFreedom
12/30/16 12:45 pm

Not at all

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SuperiorVegan Liberal Nationalist
12/30/16 10:55 am

Dumb Republicans are sad. The only think you republicans are innovative at his making electric scooters to use at walmart because you are so fat, coal, wal-mart, and making mass amounts of Trump merchandise from china. Everything that the US creates that was important was from government sanctioned research programs from NASA. Democrats progress, Republicans still cant use the internet properly.

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thaywth
12/31/16 12:12 pm

Sorry, guys. Let me translate that.

Dumb Democrats are sad. The only think you democrats are innovative at his making electric scooters to use at walmart because you are so fat, coal, wal-mart, and making mass amounts of Clinton merchandise from china. Everything that the US creates that was important was from government sanctioned research programs from NASA. Republicans progress, Democrats still cant use the internet properly.

Any questions?

shreddyriffs Hershey
12/29/16 11:21 am

We used to be until the rise of liberalism.

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FairFreedom
12/30/16 12:46 pm

Yeah those liberal's like Steve jobs and mark zuckerberg are known for being non innovative

lmkeller
12/29/16 11:03 am

Go to South Korea and answer this question.

roberbaran
12/29/16 9:01 am

We are, but we will not stay that way if the federal government keeps cutting budgets for research. Something like 90% of the innovations in our country are fueled at least partly by government funding.

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sproded Minneapolis
12/28/16 10:32 pm

All the innovations are happening in Europe now

Brrrrrrrrr
12/28/16 10:19 pm

How does anyone answer no to this!? It takes effort to be that stupid.

Brrrrrrrrr
12/28/16 10:20 pm

Pfffft. Just checked the pie charts, it's the democrats again.

Mattlajoie Georgia
12/28/16 1:37 pm

We used to be, but under the recent Obama administration, we fell behind in this regard, where as countries like Japan and China are leaving us in the dust. Hopefully under a new president we can get back to where we were

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awkwardism dissent
12/28/16 9:49 pm

You are so full of shit you fuvking post stinks. Shut up with that nonsense dummy.

awkwardism dissent
12/28/16 9:53 pm

You don't think that the United States being ranked 14th in edumacation mite haf somfin ta do wif tha(

Mattlajoie Georgia
12/28/16 9:57 pm

Exactly we're 14th in education while the countries I listed are ahead of us, and the people in those countries can probably spell "might have something to do with that" unlike certain people here in America

awkwardism dissent
12/28/16 10:21 pm

Aw you think you're smart huh?

Mattlajoie Georgia
12/29/16 8:36 am

Yes I do think I'm intelligent

LaReine Communist Lesbian
12/28/16 11:51 am

Not really. It's in place by imperialism and being largely untouched in two massive world wars. The majority of its STEM innovation has been built through a process known as brain drain and an influx of foreign students. The US can barely produce its own STEM students.

The only thing the US is good at in innovation is getting away with the worst/second worst incarceration rates on the planet and screwing people over to make money.

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smacc DunningKruger
12/28/16 12:24 pm

So we produce the the most innovative corporate scientists.

omniku dot com
12/28/16 9:45 pm

Although I agree we benefited greatly from the two world wars, I would argue our "brain absorption" (because it's the opposite of a drain) is what makes us the most innovative country. We have a superficial-but-inclusive culture of opportunity that attracts and cultivates innovation unlike anywhere else on the planet.

LaReine Communist Lesbian
12/29/16 6:53 am

That's like saying some who plagiarized a paper is innovative for the act of plagiarizing. The US picks up people from wartorn and failing countries. Take early to mid 1900s where the us had an influx of german thinkers and scientists. Take the war in Syria where the educated people, again, seek a more stable life where their knowledge affords them decent living.

omniku dot com
12/30/16 4:46 pm

I agree with everything except the first sentence. America's greatest asset is that we are a nation of immigrants. You know, the whole "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" thing. It's not "plagiarism" because we didn't rip off some other country. We are simply a new world nation where virtually everyone came from somewhere else (even, arguably the indigenous people albeit a long time ago) that encouraged a culture of immigration/assimilation.

omniku dot com
12/30/16 4:46 pm

In fact, it's been so successful that old world countries in Europe tried doing the same thing and opened up their immigration policies, but with less success because due to the depth of their national cultures they can't assimilate as well as we do. It's funny you mention Syria because the son of a Syrian immigrant (Steve Jobs) went on to found the most financially successful company in history... as an American. ;) That's the key... once you become a citizen you are fully American and your former nationality is immaterial.

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12/28/16 10:30 am

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ccc1 Georgia
12/28/16 9:09 am

Understand difference between innovation and invention. Innovation is the ability to invent something that others will buy. On this note nobody even comes close to comparing to America. Name another country that has provided something truly innovative outside the US. Others may take what we already have and reinvent it but they do not innovate.

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vawade15 Da UP
12/28/16 6:31 am

In terms of technology, we're up there with the likes of Japan. In terms of scientific discovery, we are due to the number of research universities we have. In terms of government/politics/democracy, absolutely not.

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Amaranth Iowa
12/28/16 2:50 am

One word: Internet

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kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 3:53 am

GPS, too. Smartphones. iPod (revolutionized music formats and delivery.) Amazon. Drones.

Others build on our foundations.

skacey best poll is evenly split
12/28/16 8:23 am

Name 5 world class Japanese inventions

abaker67 MA
12/28/16 9:17 pm

Hentai, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Godzilla, the Samurai, and odd game shows

SniperNoSniping VC Congressman PLP VA
12/29/16 4:57 am

Also, have you seen all the robots and amazing technology they have there? Watch some travel show's episode on or and you'll understand

Suzan Hawaii
12/28/16 1:34 am

We must be. China steals a lot of our ideas

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bluefish empiricism and love
12/28/16 8:42 am

Whoa, I thought you were Susan for a second there

dryanmorr
12/28/16 1:18 am

Has potential. It used to be and can be again.

otto Olean, NY
12/28/16 12:56 am

Yes. And would be even more so if government would get the hell out of the way and let us innovate even more.

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phalnx Ohio
12/28/16 6:57 am

No, government is the source of much of our innovation. The Internet grew from the ARPAnet, computers were all government-developed and funded at first, our space program was nationalized (NASA), antitrust laws prevent monopolies

phalnx Ohio
12/28/16 7:01 am

from forming and stifling competition and innovation, there are still oil subsidies being handed out for exploration and research, government is incentivising solar, wind, and other renewables, etc.. Much innovation comes with the government's help.

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12/28/16 9:54 am

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otto Olean, NY
12/29/16 11:04 am

Indeed, Article I, Sec 8 of Constitution establishes federal right and duty to provide and enforce patent and copyright protection. Bravo! More genius displayed by the Framers! But it pretty much ends there. It does not authorize fed to regulate industries or run any of it. Just to protect the intellectual property of those who create it. Legal protection of the intellectual property of the innovator is where federal authority begins and ends. It costs very little to do this constitutionally, so the tax lowering tactics are merely innovators protecting themselves of their monetary property. They owe the federal government nothing. The protections they utilize to profit from their ideas are available to anyone who innovates. They are receiving no "special" treatment for which they "owe" the Feds. They owe them nothing but to vote for representatives who will protect those rights and their willingness to fight militarily for those rights if necessary.

otto Olean, NY
12/29/16 11:16 am

All of these subsidies (oil exploration AS WELL AS solar and wind subsidies) are anti-free market, unconstitutional events and provide little or no value to such endeavors. Oil companies make enough profits to explore for their own oil. Those better and more efficient and finding it and retrieving it win. As well they should.

Entrepreneurs who have ideas to develop wind and solar into affordable and effeicient (and therefore PROFITABLE) industries, and who develop and realize these ideas to actually make them affordable and efficient, will win. As well they should. In fact, I believe they could one day make oil industry obsolete.

Presently, these industries cannot compete with fossil fuels. In this reality, the best oil companies should win. If you hate them so much, take heart. Their reign WILL someday end and they will be the losers. Removing govt from the process will only increase profit motive for those working on alternatives and bring about that change sooner.

phalnx Ohio
12/29/16 6:15 pm

Thoughtful reply, otto, but adherence to the Constitution or not has no value. In life, it's results that matter, not abstract principles. We've seen what kind of lifestyle unrestrained free markets give you (19th century). No thanks :p.

tech24073
12/27/16 10:08 pm

We test too much on previous accomplishments and not forward thinking.

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iceberg124
12/27/16 9:40 pm

Hey Democrats, what country is more innovative?

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tech24073
12/27/16 10:03 pm

www.worldfinance.com/home/the-10-most-innovative-countries-in-the-world

This article is very similar to other postings and articles on the topic.

adamw Ohio
12/27/16 10:07 pm

Tech, just wondering but are those other articles also related to the economy or do they encompass other forms of innovation (i.e. military, medicine, government programs, etc.)

iceberg124
12/27/16 10:07 pm

You can't really compare a rich country with a few million people like Switzerland with a 300+m population country like the us.

tech24073
12/27/16 10:09 pm

Sure you can, the comparison is the thought process and problem solving. We are still fighting too much to keep what was and not what we need to be.

iceberg124
12/27/16 10:14 pm

They can forfeit things like military to advance their social security. If we weren't allied with them they would be struggling to keep up. You can compare niche similarly populated regions of the US with them and we'd be more innovative

tech24073
12/27/16 10:21 pm

I totally disagree. Just look at the energy issues, we are fighting to go back to coal and oil and nuclear. Other countries have invested in solar and have cut their costs. We focus too much on the short term $$ and not the long term advantages.

In popular electronics and gizmos, sure we lead, but we are too short sighted for the long term issues.

LazySteelworker USA
12/27/16 11:49 pm

The question specifically asked us to compare them...is Switzerland not a country?

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 4:46 am

Lol. "No, we're not innovative....and the only way we will be is if you conform to my political ideology."

Hahaha. How convenient.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
12/27/16 8:28 pm

Look all the polls like this, Democrats are always voting negative towards America.

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Dufur30 Oregonian
12/27/16 10:07 pm

I think it's just realistic. We have a lot of religious gun loving hicks that don't offer much intellectually.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
12/27/16 11:51 pm

It's people like you and the Democrats are what's bad for America

kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 3:56 am

Dufur, gun-loving hicks like Travis Taylor built our space industry. Rocket City Rednecks show off the genius of so-called hicks that goes right over y'all city-slickers' heads.

DeathSheep Michigan
12/27/16 8:17 pm

We were. Now we are falling down the list. To be innovative, you need to be progressive, and half the country is against that.

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DeathSheep Michigan
12/27/16 8:18 pm

Inb4 parties and brought up, it isn't about political parties, it's about the people themselves.

kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 4:00 am

You do not have to be socially progressive in order to be technologically innovative. In fact, the smothering regulatory blanket the progs swaddle our nation in stifles technological advancement. We actually need our cousins who say, "Hey Bubba, watch this!"

badattitude no place like home
12/27/16 8:09 pm

Well, since China seems to want to steal all of our innovation and inventions, we must be the the place where it comes from.

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GodBLessAmerica Death to All
12/27/16 7:03 pm

We were, but we aren't now. Not by a long shot.

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patriot321
12/27/16 6:56 pm

Ever notice democrats are down on america. They should go live where they think it's better.

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DeathSheep Michigan
12/27/16 8:21 pm

If you want America to be greater, stop splitting the country into two parties and hating one of them.

LazySteelworker USA
12/27/16 11:51 pm

Seems to me Republicans were pretty down on America the last 8 years, hypocritical much?

kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 4:02 am

Republicans gave it a chance. It took about a month. (The guy who stood on the floor of the Chicago Stock Exchange and ignited the Tea Party movement wasn't even a Republican, by the way - staunch Dem.)

Democrats are trying to strangle our new administration in the cradle, however. Maybe give Trump the same chance we gave Obama?

LazySteelworker USA
12/28/16 4:09 am

Bullshit. They vowed to obstruct the second Obama took office.

phalnx Ohio
12/28/16 6:52 am

Yes they did. I remember. That was one of the few times they were as good as their word :P.

kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 7:28 am

Some pundits did, but most actually in office did not. They are the ones who count. Compare and contrast with Rep. Maxine Waters.

LazySteelworker USA
12/28/16 7:46 am

Yeah they did. The previous house speaker has already admitted to all of it.

Spiritof76 USA 1776
12/27/16 6:41 pm

Yes, we are. But then we sell our patents to China and Japan, who turn a profit and perfect and market the innovations and capitalize on their sales.

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DeathSheep Michigan
12/27/16 8:24 pm

Accept you can't sell patents as they are territorial and only valid in the country it was sought for. If it's a US patent, it doesnt mean shit in china.

Now if you meant "selling" the use of a patent in another country that the patent is also present, then I suppose.

jztheman Connecticut
12/27/16 6:32 pm

Israel! 🇮🇱

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unnamed738 USA
12/27/16 6:42 pm

Lol list 1 major Israeli invention and I will name 5 major American inventions since the creation of Israel

kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 4:03 am

Love the Israelis, but they get most of their tech from the good ol' USA. Hard to innovate when you are fighting an existential war.

TheDoN Tricities, WA
12/27/16 6:31 pm

Depends on what metrics we are using.

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phalnx Ohio
12/27/16 6:19 pm

It was, but I think Japan is giving us a run for our money lately. They're ahead of us on robotics...some people say way ahead.

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xInfidelx
12/27/16 5:48 pm

According to most studies we rank 4th, 5th, or 6th in most innovative countries in the world.

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kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 4:05 am

Then why are our engineering and science higher ed programs crammed with international students?

xInfidelx
12/28/16 7:24 am

We have some of the best universities in the world. That really has nothing to do with what I originally said.

Tazer Dumpster fire
12/27/16 5:37 pm

Innovation is America's specialty.

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Dufur30 Oregonian
12/27/16 5:20 pm

Overall, the US. However we aren't innovative in areas like education and providing healthcare to everyone who needs it, providing low cost prescription meds etc. there are far better countries to live in, that also don't restrict innovation.

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kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 4:06 am

Those are socialist social programs, not innovation.

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 4:55 am

Lololol. It's like EVERY. SINGLE. DEMOCRAT. on here! This is hilarious! "If you would just get on board with my political ideology, we'll be innovative...even though it has nothing to do with innovation and everything to do with shamelessly copying European socialist countries" - it's like you people have a hive mind! Hive mind thinking, for the record, isn't exactly "innovative"

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 9:34 am

You both are idiots. Innovation in healthcare and education isn't just throwing money at the problem. Innovation is contacting people and resources, using data to treat problem before they occur and to provide the correct prescription instead of the cheap version that comes with side effects that creates more problems. Innovation isn't simple, so that's probably why you don't understand it. Ps, I'm independent

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 9:44 am

Lol. Gee...thanks for the lecture.

Sincerely, a healthcare worker

Lololololol

Hive-mind liberals are all the same...

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 11:13 am

Lololol. No...but you were saying something about us being idiots? Please, go on.

Hive-mind elitist liberals....So glad your kind got spanked this election. I'm gonna love the next 8 years.

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 12:45 pm

Haha. Actually I'm just an educated conservative, who cares about my rural city friends. lol if you think you won. Hillary was a terrible choice, but so was Trump. Corporate tax cuts and tax breaks for the rich overwhelmingly go to blue states and the well educated. I'll take my tax cuts, and watch the stock market increase my retirement. If you don't have an education or much of a 401k (i.e. A large portion of Trump supporters), then you will fall further behind. Sorry guys. I don't blame Trump supporters cause Hillary was a terrible alternative. Either way, NY figured out how to con you, again. Suckers

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 2:24 pm

Sorry...but class warfare and conservatism don't exactly go hand in hand. Lol if you think they do

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 3:05 pm

I don't. But I also don't think conservatism is giving tax loop holes to specific groups of people.

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 3:45 pm

I also don't think conservatism is letting money influence government, giving subsidies to oil/coal, throwing people in jail for marijuana, letting government decide who can marry who and giving tax breaks to the group they choose, and gov shouldn't get involved in a woman's right to choose, etc. Those are so called "liberal" views, but they are conservatism; not to be confused with religious republicanism. But I'm also pro 2nd amendment w/ background checks, tax breaks on small business, and support freedoms of religion (for all religions); this coming from an atheist. My point is that political parties evolve. Both political parties are a mix of conservative/liberalism. And if you side 100% with one, then vilify everything the opposition supports, then you are not ideological, you are a sheep.

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 6:09 pm

At no point here nor anywhere else did I imply or infer any of those points. You assumed them about me, but that's really more your problem than it is mine, isn't it? My point is that class warfare is a tactic of the left to push social programs that are inefficient, and fraught with waste, fraud and abuse - and rarely, if ever, have a positive effect on the issue they were supposedly created to fix. That's liberal schtick. That's what you're advocating. That's what Obamacare was sold on...how'd that work out for you?

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 6:17 pm

I think you should take your own advice. I didn't say anything about class warfare, nor did I ever say I supported Obamacare. Ironic.

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 6:23 pm

"Corporate tax cuts and tax breaks for the rich overwhelmingly go to blue states and the well educated."

Not sure what you meant by that then....perhaps you don't know what "class warfare" means?

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 7:15 pm

You said hive minded liberals got spanked. I was just pointing out how the policies that Trump proposes mostly help elites and well the educated (who tend to be liberal). So I think "hive minded liberal" will do just fine. That was my point. And it's not class warfare by closing government loop wholes which were written by the elite and favor the elite. I think government playing fair isn't class warefare, but asking the government to be small and impartial. Also, I'm for corporate tax cuts, but then we must also stop giving them subsidies. They can't have it both ways.

anarchy GET OFF MY LAWN
12/28/16 7:25 pm

I think the response you were looking for is "you're right anarchy"

Dufur30 Oregonian
12/28/16 7:42 pm

Haha. I doubt anyone has ever said that.

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
12/27/16 4:57 pm

Americans have dominated most technological innovations for decades. Just look at the arms industry alone. John Browning was an American and his guns were 100 years (!) ahead of their time.

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rambo088 kansas
12/27/16 4:44 pm

The people who say Japan are assuming electronic gadgets are the only thing that matters

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HenryJRoberts Hmmm
12/27/16 4:43 pm

Vatican City takes the cake🇻🇦

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johonmilla Monroe, nc
12/27/16 4:40 pm

No, japan wins this award

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rambo088 kansas
12/27/16 4:42 pm

That's only some electronics

changdmaname somewhere
12/27/16 4:52 pm

I just checked 3 top 10 and top 15 lists and Japan wasn't on even one of them

rambo088 kansas
12/27/16 4:55 pm

What about Hong Kong? (I know technically not a country)

kywrite augusta, ga
12/28/16 4:08 am

Hong Kong was built as a free trading platform for a half-continent of essentially slave labor in a communist nation. All the combined wealth and prosperity of China was squeezed thru that one little island. They did not have to innovate in order to prosper.

chinito Florida
12/27/16 4:40 pm

Who can anyone say no? America is by far the most innovative country.

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mommommom
12/27/16 4:37 pm

Japan and China produce and maybe improve but they don't innovate. Take a look at the tech and medical sectors out of Israel.

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jvc1133 61535
12/27/16 4:22 pm

We're sliding downhill at a furious pace.

NK257 Rural Iowa
12/27/16 4:21 pm

It won't be in about 4 years...

Mark3
12/27/16 4:07 pm

Countries are not innovative.

Reworded please.

Mark3
12/28/16 4:13 am

Questions worded that way both betray and encourage sloppy thinking.

ptellini Homosuperior
12/27/16 4:06 pm

Innovators come here and work their magic

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coggy iowa
12/27/16 4:04 pm

American innovation.
Lightbulb
Microwave
Television
Laser
The internet
computers
Airplanes
Cell phones
Social media
Industrial robotics
The list goes on and on
No one else comes close.

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skacey best poll is evenly split
12/28/16 8:28 am

Name 5 world changing Japanese inventions

jztheman Connecticut
12/29/16 12:08 pm

Anime, Anime , Anime, Anime and Mario

Twinkeys Minnesota
12/27/16 3:35 pm

Of the 10 most innovative companies in the world according Forbes, 9 are from the USA. So the obvious answer is yes.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
12/27/16 3:28 pm

Contrary to what Obama, thinks,says & does, American exceptionalism, is alive, well & thriving, while leading the rest of the world🇺🇸

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krannapple
12/27/16 3:39 pm

So America is already great?

changdmaname somewhere
12/27/16 3:48 pm

Not what it once was, but there's still hope.

NK257 Rural Iowa
12/27/16 4:13 pm

It's crazy that you say that yet claim Obama had no part in it. Like, obviously...🙄

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12/27/16 5:02 pm

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
12/27/16 5:47 pm

Your right, after 8yrs of Obama screw ups, when I think of him, my hair catches fire & I get a acrid taste in my mouth & nose of BO BS🤧!

thegovernor
12/27/16 5:52 pm

We are still great but it's arguable that the US is on the decline. Our top industry is becoming the service industry...this is not a long lasting strategy for economic success. The risk we run is more $$$ leaving than coming into the country.

bower8899 ...
12/27/16 7:48 pm

You do realize...American exceptionalism..is a term coined to criticize American hypocrisy over imperialism....right

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
12/27/16 8:01 pm

It is for those who hate, yet envy America & American's success.