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jfish82285 December 21st, 2016 3:14pm

Delta airlines has removed a Muslim man from their plane after he spoke Arabic into his cell phone, making other passengers uncomfortable. Was this the right thing for Delta to do?

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SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
12/22/16 8:15 pm

This guy has made fake baiting videos like this before, so we shouldn't jump to any conclusions yet.

Carcano Luke 10 19
12/22/16 8:17 am

Learn the whole story before posting this nonsense.

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saskiaelisabeth
12/21/16 10:17 pm

This guy has a history of trying to get a reaction or make people nervous for views on YouTube. This is literally exactly what he wanted to happen, and for that I think Delta made the wrong move.
But in terms of removing him he provokes and provokes to try and get a reaction, this is what he gets, it has nothing to do with him being and Arab and everything to do with him being an ass.

m.youtube.com/user/ASAvlogs

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think4yourself Not a safe space
12/22/16 10:34 am

I mostly agree but delta did the right thing removing someone who is intentionally causing a disturbance.

saskiaelisabeth
12/22/16 11:13 am

Yeah I agree they did as well, just wrong in terms of you're giving him exactly what he wants, but ultimately the right move.

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/22/16 11:37 am

Either way delta loses. They let this jerk upset their customers and they lose that way. They kick him off the flight and they end up losing from his propaganda campaign.

EthanF9877
12/21/16 7:13 pm

How can discrimination ever be justified?

rons WOKE is sick
12/21/16 3:35 pm

More to it then that!

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jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 3:48 pm

The floor is yours, then. Please, enlighten us!

golfer golfing
12/21/16 7:46 pm

Yes, let's hear the rest of the story from someone who wasn't there.

MickeyA Central Ohio
12/21/16 3:17 pm

What if he was a Christian man speaking Arabic? Would he have still been removed? Yup. I mean, let's be honest here, it's because of the 'Arab features' or as some lesser educated people would call it, 'Muslim features.'

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DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/22/16 9:23 pm

One of the reasons we call it racism, even though people flip out about Islam not being a race.

shygal47 Florida east coast
12/21/16 2:33 pm

Yes it was proper of Delta to remove him from the plane for his own safety.

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golfer golfing
12/21/16 7:47 pm

The people who were uncomfortable about it should have been removed.

FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
12/21/16 2:02 pm

Context questioned, but the question itself? That is certainly unjustified.

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Luftwaffe South of Heaven
12/21/16 1:52 pm

This guy has done things in the past in order to get attention on Airplanes, he seems to have caused the situation himself and isn't telling the full details. 20 people reported that he was doing strange activities the airline reported. He's not innocent

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Domino3 Abolish the ATF
12/21/16 3:22 pm

I was about to say, that dude does pranks.. It was probably the right call.

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 12:07 pm

Jfish. You are promoting a likely hoax. "Saleh has a history of posting prank videos designed to look like the real thing, including an infamously faked viral video that alleged to have shown anti-Muslim bias from the NYPD."

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jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 12:13 pm

Just because someone does prank videos on YouTube does not mean they cannot be subject to ignorance. Think: "The Boy Who Cried Wolf."

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 12:18 pm

So a guy that posts fake "anti Muslim" videos posts another "anti Muslim" video and you think it's real? No wonder this guy makes so much money off of posting fake videos.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 12:26 pm

Did he make a video about this? I saw news reports about it, so if it ends up being false, blame the media. I'm sure that won't be too hard for you to do. Besides, you never know when something like this is going to happen. It wouldn't be the first time this sort of thing has happened on an airline.

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 12:34 pm

"In one video Saleh posted to Twitter that was retweeted 83,000 times in just 2 hours, Saleh can be seen getting escorted off the plane."

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 12:38 pm

"In February 2016, Saleh posted a video of a self-described “social experiment” in which he counts down from 10 in Arabic aboard a plane. " He obviously incites this stuff and benefits from the hoaxes.

GodBeforeAll Great State of Texas
12/21/16 1:26 pm

Yeah, I looked it up. This guy basically makes a living by doing inflammatory "social experiments" and "pranks" on planes. The only way I would believe this guy is if there were actual video of this happening, but the only video he took is of the aftermath. And, by the reaction of most of the other passengers, and how he is acting in the video, it looks like he was being a belligerent jerk.

chickencookie Jihad Joe
12/21/16 9:40 pm

Eyewitnesses on the plane said he spoke on the phone, stood up, raised his arm and fist in air and said something in Arabic sat down and did it again. This would certainly alarm me no matter who was doing it. White men have been pulled off planes from doing nutty things too. If this was a prank I hope they fine him.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 9:45 pm

Would you like to link a source for that? As for the phone call and speaking in a separate language, there's no rule against that.

chickencookie Jihad Joe
12/21/16 9:55 pm

Of course not but on the news several people from the flight were describing what they saw.

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 11:31 pm

CC you are correct. Anyone engaging in his ridiculousness would and should get kicked off a plane.

jvc1133 61535
12/21/16 12:05 pm

Yea, for stupidity.

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GodBeforeAll Great State of Texas
12/21/16 11:32 am

Well, if there's a Muslim man speaking in a foreign language that the security can't understand, I don't see why they should allow that. Muslims commit way more terrorist acts than other people, so if there's a guy that's obviously Muslim, he should be speaking in English for security purposes.

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ComradeJames nationalism
12/21/16 11:31 am

Brown people are scary! 🙄

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GodBeforeAll Great State of Texas
12/21/16 11:58 am

Brown people aren't "scary", they're just way more likely to commit a terrorist act. For all anybody knows, the Muslim guy could have been talking about how he was going to blow up the plane, and nobody would have known. Either we need to hire security guards for planes that speak Arabic, or we need to make it mandatory to speak in a language that the security guards can understand. It's a blatant security risk to have people talking in ways that security guards can't understand.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 12:12 pm

I don't know if you know this, but there typically aren't security guards on the plane just before takeoff, so it was just blatant xenophobia on behalf of his fellow passengers that got him removed, if this story checks out. He was only speaking to his mother, anyway, for god's sake.

GodBeforeAll Great State of Texas
12/21/16 12:15 pm

Well, I don't know whether or not planes have security guards. Either way, just replace the word security guard with passengers and you get the same thing. If the passengers can't understand him, then he very well could be talking about blowing up the plane. It is totally reasonable to be nervous when somebody who is more likely to blow up a plane starts talking in a language you can't understand. They should make a law saying you can only speak English on planes. Plus, according to other people commenting here, the guy who did this is a known prankster who just pretends like things like this happen to him.

Jazzy5 USA
12/21/16 11:16 am

The pilot can make that call...

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Okie1967 Is Biden self aware
12/21/16 11:04 am

No. I would hope he was fully vetted and investigated prior to be given access to this country. If he was, and we must assume it was, then Speaking another language isn't justification for anything.

jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 11:14 am

The man was born in Brooklyn, I believe.

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 12:07 pm

"Saleh has a history of posting prank videos designed to look like the real thing, including an infamously faked viral video that alleged to have shown anti-Muslim bias from the NYPD."

susanr Colorado
12/21/16 10:18 am

Is this about Adam Saleh? If so, Ima gonna wait a bit and see how much of that he *provoked* rather than just assume that the airline acted 100% like idiots.

Because this is what he did last week, which was apparently totally bogus: www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11768595

He does have a history of setting up situations showing discrimination and making videos of them - he's a YouTuber.

I'm not saying he lied about what happened, in this case - the airline has acknowledged that he and a companion were removed for the plane (and booked on another flight). I'm just wondering how much of it was entirely innocent on his part, and whether any of it was due to his deliberately provoking reactions from other passengers. The video he made of his being ejected looks pretty aggressive on his part, although by that time I'd be pretty pissed off too.

www.cbsnews.com/news/delta-responds-youtube-star-adam-saleh-arabic-discrimination-accusation/

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think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 12:00 pm

Thanks for that info. It brings the situation into more context than what the question implied.

susanr Colorado
12/21/16 1:41 pm

I'm just suggestion not jumping to conclusions. Delta may or may not have acted sensibly, depending on what the guy actually did, and whether he set up the situation deliberately or it just "happened" doesn't really matter - what matters (to me, anyway) is whether he *provoked* a negative reaction from passengers, and then from Delta, by his own behavior *other* than just speaking Arabic into his phone.

I'd love to see a video from some other perspective than his own, from the very beginning of the incident, to see *exactly* what happened.

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think4yourself Not a safe space
12/21/16 1:58 pm

He has a history of inciting reactions like this on airplanes so I will take the word of airline employees over this jackass.

Senate101 San Diego
12/21/16 10:13 am

No. If I speak Farsi on a plane, and if other customers don't like it, or bad for them.

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jfish82285 Tennessean in Colorado
12/21/16 8:15 am

Add this to the list of things wrong with Delta Airlines.

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DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/22/16 9:24 pm

And their orange juice. No orange juice I've ever had compares to Turkish Air. It tasted like they squeezed the oranges in the back of the plane.