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McMurphyJohnson December 19th, 2016 10:54pm

If the electoral college had gone against the states will and elected Clinton as our next president, how many major cities do you think would have seen mass riots?

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dfish at home
12/19/16 6:28 pm

You messed up your > <

Blarney Wrightville
12/19/16 4:55 pm

Less than 10 or greater than 9?

think4yourself Not a safe space
12/19/16 4:53 pm

Probably none. Conservatives don't usually don't loot and destroy when they don't get their way.

doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
12/19/16 5:12 pm

Excellent response!

McMurphyJohnson say what now
12/19/16 3:55 pm

Even though I didn't vote for trump, I would be absolutely pissed off that the electoral college went against the people's will. I think there would be riots everywhere and people would come out of the woodwork to protest.

12/19/16 4:06 pm


Vayl Reason over common sense
12/19/16 4:38 pm

If the EC elected Hillary, they would have gone with the will of the people. Not against.

McMurphyJohnson say what now
12/19/16 8:12 pm

Do you understand how the electoral college works? That it's ingrained in our constitution? That that's what has determined every single election since the birth of this nation?

Vayl Reason over common sense
12/19/16 10:09 pm

Do you understand what "will of the people" means?

McMurphyJohnson say what now
12/19/16 10:40 pm

You didn't answer a single one of my questions.

Vayl Reason over common sense
12/19/16 10:44 pm

Yes, I understand how the electoral college works.

The other questions are not relevant, and any argumentative points that could be drawn from them would be fallacious.

McMurphyJohnson say what now
12/20/16 8:20 am

Just answer the questions and quit making this so complicated.

12/20/16 8:30 am

"Will of the people" in the case of the electoral college vs the general election has two meanings, both intertwined. The popular vote on a state by state basis (which is the first "will of the people" point) is what fuels the decision point at the electoral college , which is the second "will if the people" point. They are not mutually exclusive.
What IS meaningless is the overall popular vote ( all nationwide votes combined) as it relates to our democratic republic voting system. EACH states popular vote total counts individually as it is input into the electoral college.

McMurphyJohnson say what now
12/20/16 11:11 am

Thank you for explaining the electoral college! Unfortunately, I think he's so ignorant that he won't even try to hear another point besides his own.

Vayl Reason over common sense
12/20/16 1:05 pm

The will of the American people cannot possibly be anything but the candidate a majority of Americans voted for. To call it anything else is completely nonsensical. The popular vote is relevant, because the popular vote tells us whether or not the Electoral College actually elected the candidate who the American people voted for, and in this case, it failed, which is why it should be abolished.


McMurphyJohnson say what now
12/20/16 2:33 pm

The electoral college is NOT based on the popular vote. Why does this confuse you so much?! Just because you WANT it to be based on the popular vote does NOT mean it is.

Vayl Reason over common sense
12/20/16 3:00 pm

Yes, I know that. That's precisely the problem.

doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
12/20/16 9:11 pm

Vayl, California does not mean "popular" vote.

12/20/16 9:31 pm

Get used to the fact that we have a Constitution and that we are a Democratic republic. Our electoral college balances the will of the people in all 50 states, not just a bicoastal group. That's the difference and will be.