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Squidboy December 19th, 2016 6:24pm

Last week Uber started using self-driving cars for ride sharing in San Francisco. The CA DMV has ordered Uber to halt its autonomous car program. Pick a side:

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ladyniner81 extremists are a cancer
12/21/16 11:50 pm

I wish upstate New York would get Uber. NYC does. WTF is up with these stupid politicians? We need it more than they do. I get tired of them catering to then when they got buses, taxis and a subway. There's other parts of New York besides the city. Let them test it
If it doesn't work..well

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12/19/16 4:11 pm

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CyanEide
12/20/16 6:01 am

As of February this year, google cars only had one at fault crash. It was a minor crash after google cars had driven 1.4 million miles. On average, a person drives about 800,000 miles in their lifetime. Which means google cars are almost twice as safe as somebody who has only had one at fault accident in their life

catpillow Florida West Coast
12/19/16 3:29 pm

We aren't going to get useful autonomous cars without road testing and learning where they will make mistakes in real life so corrections can be made. I can't think of a better way to do this than using a human driver to supervise and correct the car.

I wonder if Uber and the California DMV could compromise by providing extra training and a special driver's license for driving experimental cars.

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bluerum29 optimistic idealist
12/19/16 3:26 pm

I'm against self driving cars at all at this point

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bartman71 USW
12/24/16 12:52 pm

Why? This would seem to be the next natural capitalistic stage. Won't the market correct itself? Or are you citing safety reasons?

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
12/24/16 1:40 pm

I just don't like the idea. Sometimes we need to ask ourselves, just because we can doesn't mean we should

Phillyusmc Philadelphia PA
12/19/16 3:08 pm

Keep using it then the Russians can hack then and drive the San Fran Liberal loons into the pacific!

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Zach21 California
12/19/16 12:56 pm

Uber. The "self driving" cars still have a human behind the wheel in case things go wrong.

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CDFL alt right, alt snowflake
12/19/16 12:51 pm

I'm pretty torn on this one

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gow488 Seoul, Korea
12/19/16 12:55 pm

California really should loosen up regulations regarding self driving cars. Strict regulations only stop progress.

GingaNinja43 Indiana
12/19/16 11:35 am

Basically every other company is still allowed. Why not Uber?

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CDFL alt right, alt snowflake
12/19/16 12:51 pm

It's the autonomous part, no company is allowed to do that there yet

GingaNinja43 Indiana
12/19/16 6:05 pm

They all have people behind the wheel. Tesla and many other companies are testing basically the same thing.

CDFL alt right, alt snowflake
12/19/16 6:45 pm

Testing, not allowing passengers and making money off of it

MrMilkdud
12/19/16 11:31 am

As I understand it, the self driving taxis still have an uber driver behind the wheel the whole time. I don't see why California wouldn't allow this.

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TomM
12/19/16 11:44 am

That is correct, I don't understand it either, but I will admit I haven't searched for the explanation.

presrvd Phoenix
12/19/16 3:00 pm

Because of video footage that surfaced of an Uber self-driving minivan that very blatantly ran a very red light, with no co-driver intervention....

MrMilkdud
12/19/16 3:07 pm

That seems like a human error problem, not an automated car problem.

presrvd Phoenix
12/19/16 3:09 pm

The car running the red light, the driver not interacting, or both?

MrMilkdud
12/19/16 3:12 pm

If the driver is there to stop the car from making mistakes, then it's a driver problem.

presrvd Phoenix
12/19/16 3:37 pm

I am in agreement, but CA want the issue of the vehicle running the red light addressed, as well as apparently, there is a statute that required Uber to register the vehicles as autonomous (or something like that), to which Uber refuses, and feel the law doesn't apply to them. Honestly, I find CA law rather dizzying, so I didn't read further into it. I think it's knee-jerk, but as the video shows (I linked an article with video a few comments up), there was a pedestrian entering the crosswalk when the vehicle ran the light....

MrMilkdud
12/19/16 3:42 pm

I hope that driver isn't working for them anymore.

If CA has laws on the books that will allow uber to use these cars, uber should follow those laws. But if CA is just getting in the way, then they're wrong.

presrvd Phoenix
12/19/16 3:44 pm

We agree. =)

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
12/19/16 11:27 am

California is no doubt being influenced by union money intended to stop progress

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RagingMystic covfefe
12/19/16 11:40 am

That's capitalism for you

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
12/19/16 12:57 pm

That's corporatism. And it's very different

Judging by your previous comments on here, I doubt you have the inclination to learn the difference because you simply do not care to

RagingMystic covfefe
12/19/16 1:04 pm

Capitalism always leads to corporatism. And besides, the work or starve nature of capitalism means the working class will fight automation and things because it will drive them out of work, despite it being otherwise a good thing

SupremeDolphin They.them
12/20/16 9:23 am

The only difference between capitalism and so called "corporatism" is just theoretical. In reality capitalism is indistinguishable from capitalism. You can say that the certain ills of society come from state intervention in the market or "corporatism," but you can't stop it. Capitalists are taught to use their wealth to make good investments. Capitalists invest their money into the state apparatus because they get a good return. Even if we went as far as to disband the state, capitalists would create a coalition amongst themselves and recreate the state because it's a good investment.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
12/20/16 11:29 am

"In reality capitalism is indistinguishable from capitalism."

Yeah. But capitalism and corporatism are not.

SupremeDolphin They.them
12/20/16 12:40 pm

I meant to write that corporatism is indistinguishable from capitalism.