Show of Hands

But it's more than just the birth certificate. I don't like him either, but he was born in Hawaii.

I am curious, do his college applications say he was born in Hawaii?

I'm just curious why a mass conspiracy to sway an election is allowed by Occam's razor but a high school Photoshop job makes me a tin foil hat wearer?

The local newspaper announced the birth of a Barack Obama on his birthday. It's confirmed by microfilm. The birth certificate was confirmed legit. The coverup would have to be ridiculously massive, hence, "conspiracy" theory...

😕 does the local newspaper record your birth?

False equivalency is a cornerstone of conservative debate.

Hillary can't cope with losing. She's doing exactly what she said trump shouldn't do if she won the election.

I dunno EB. Both theories are based on a lack of evidence. Don't forget, when the birther movement gained momentum was when there were rumors that ole Berry wasn't born a US citizen, and then he stubbornly refused to release his birth certificate for months. Once evidence was released that, yes indeed he is clearly a US-born citizen, the movement mostly died except for a few tin-foil hat types....right now, there is zero evidence that Russia played any part in Hillary's loss, but the liberals are out in force speaking it as if it's God's honest truth...when in fact, by the FBI/CIA's admission it's merely the running theory

Exactly, anarchy.
Liberals have completely committed to this theory, with very little actual evidence, just as the Birthers committed to that theory with very little actual evidence.

Search for the SOH birther poll from last year. 46% of Republicans, over 1300 votes, still said they didn't believe Obama was born here.

*of over 1300

Ok, and in a year as many or more democrats will still believe the Russians stole the election for trump.

What was the wording of the question though? "Do you identify with the 'birther' movement?" If the results are as you say to THAT question, I would honestly find that both funny and depressing (but I'm not a Republican). If the question is more ambiguous, something like; "is it possible Obama is not a natural US born citizen?" - well that's altogether something different now, isn't it? I'll readily admit it's "possible" Russia interfered, but there is no evidence, and there IS testimony to the contrary (the media just won't cover it).

I just find it a bit too convenient that the Hillary campaign and their sycophantic following have been pushing this "Trump is buddying up to Putin" meme throughout the campaign, and all of a sudden 2 agencies are willing to offer up an opinion that falls in line despite their admitted inability to provide any evidence. ....and let's not pretend that the CIA and FBI (or at least some players within them) are above political posturing.

I don't think even those of us that voted for Hillary ignore that public perception of her was part of the algebra

You should present your evidence to the CIA and FBI. They both disagree with you.

They have no evidence, they have released no evidence, they have nothing.

All they have is speculation

What about Hillbabies?

Oh, that's good!

Do you honestly think all people who didn't believe Obama was born here are racist?

Yep, every single one.

Donna Brazil given her the questions was the reason hundreds of thousands democrats turn their back on her and went for Trumplova! Maybe it was the DNC conspiracy against Bernie that caused 1/3 of Obama country to vote for Trumpsky. Or maybe she didn't give a crap about the middle class white worker and voted for Trumpov.

Lol, you believe everyone is a racist.

Also, stop being Russophobic, the Kremlin didn't make your candidate lose, stop being a danger to Democracy.

Must be a serious embarrassment to see Trumpova beat the chosen one! Change Trump to Neo.

Not so sure why it's hard for you to believe that soneone could have believed he wasn't from here, but not be racist. To me, those two things are unrelated

That's no bad