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Show Of Hands December 17th, 2016 1:35pm

Would you say you're generally optimistic about the future, or pessimistic?

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ladyniner81 Embrace your inner dork
12/20/16 1:28 pm

Pessimistic. I fucking hate the holidays for one thing. Plus this shitshow of an election depressed me. I lost respect for this country when they voted for a reality star and a bad senator.

Annabelle41 Michigan
12/19/16 11:17 pm

Very optimistic now. I now finally feel like I have hope in the future unlike the past president which gave us no hope and no future. This is going to be a great Christmas.

Proveit
12/18/16 2:56 pm

I'm optimistic now that the liberal idiots have been thrown out!

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ZackSilva Rhode Island
12/19/16 1:07 pm

Liberals have, factually, destroyed the western world

awkwardism dissent
12/19/16 3:03 pm

"Factually?"
You wouldn't know a fucking fact if it punched you in the mouth you dumb ass sack of shit!
Booo! You suck! Go fuck yourself clown!

ZackSilva Rhode Island
12/19/16 3:18 pm

This is why I don't often debate liberals.

wmorriso Indiana, US ofA
12/18/16 11:01 am

Over the past 7.9 yrs very pessimistic, and now slightly optimistic - and hoping it grows after Jan 20th!

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
12/18/16 10:42 am

Optimistic! Uh oh, I thought conservatives were the doom and gloom ones?

ThisIsAthens Transhumanist Libertarian
12/18/16 5:29 am

Optimistic, especially with the technology we'll have

Spiritof76 USA 1776
12/18/16 6:30 am

Devils advocate here. What about the loss of privacy, the increased obesity rates, tech as job killer, cyber warfare, loss of the ability to communicate effectively face to face, AI warnings by Steven Hawking and others...?

PhilliesFan Pennsylvania
12/18/16 6:14 pm

Trump has promised to fix everything.... himself, believe me!

Laserbeam Crazy bird lady
12/18/16 1:58 am

My own future? Extremely optimistic. On track to make 6 figures with my current employer once I have my masters in hand 😎

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ThinkAboutIt Staten Island, NY
12/17/16 8:57 pm

Career-wise; pessimistic. Family-wise; optimistic.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
12/17/16 5:19 pm

The futures so far have been pretty great as they became nows, then thens, and I don't expect that general trend to change anytime soon.

elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
12/17/16 5:14 pm

I'm generally *realistic* about everything.

elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
12/17/16 5:15 pm

Poll Q, for iPad users:

Would you say you're generally optimistic about the future, or pessimistic?

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
12/17/16 3:28 pm

I've been very pessimistic....Only since Trump has been elected

mistah Happy Happy Joy Joy
12/17/16 3:12 pm

Greatest part about being a pessimist: you can never be disappointed.

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soflasooner Ft. Lauderdale
12/17/16 2:58 pm

Hillary victory last month would have made for a more pessimistic answer for my deplorable self.

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IrishAlzheimers
12/17/16 2:28 pm

Once you give up "leaps of faith" as philosophical suicide and also physical suicide then you can live "optimistically" and embrace the absurdity of life.
To be free and give life meaning you have to recognize the absurdity of life.

GeneralDevin MN
12/17/16 2:18 pm

The world is a cesspool of depravity and will not change for the better.

Trent04 Virginia, USA
12/17/16 2:07 pm

Some people call me dream crusher, but when a kid says to me "I'm gonna be an player in the NBA!" I tell them that they're not gonna be anything special and that they are just gonna get a normal job. They always say everyone is special, but that's not true. Chances are, you're not special in any way.

CDay007
12/17/16 1:50 pm

Pessimistic. I'll either be right or pleasantly surprised.

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DeathSheep Michigan
12/17/16 12:53 pm

Overall pessimistic. I've lost faith in the majority of the world honestly.

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NK257 Rural Iowa
12/17/16 12:48 pm

They say that pessimism is a sign of superior intellect

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Trent04 Virginia, USA
12/17/16 2:07 pm

I have to agree. Smarter people tend to realize how the world actually works.

NK257 Rural Iowa
12/17/16 3:30 pm

More democrats are pessimistic than republicans, so what's that tell you about the latter's intelligence?

thundermonkey
12/19/16 6:06 am

I would argue that would be different if Hillary won the election

Senate101 San Diego
12/17/16 12:45 pm

Without looking at the comments, I'm sure here will be a bunch of political argument.

DeathSheep Michigan
12/17/16 12:48 pm

I'm sure there is. There is political comments on questions about puppies vs kittens on this app.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 6:02 pm

Not *too* much, but think did try to pull some bullshit on me below.

sneakysusan
12/17/16 12:15 pm

I guess I feel pessimistic about the near future and optimistic about the distant future. Weird. I'd never realized that before.

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WallyBarbuckle
12/17/16 11:54 am

A lot more optimistic now that lucifer lost the election (and Brexit happened and the Cups won the World Series)

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WallyBarbuckle
12/17/16 11:56 am

(Ahh spell check. How I love thee)

NK257 Rural Iowa
12/17/16 12:49 pm

"Lucifer" lost and a bigot one. Yay 21st century...

Trent04 Virginia, USA
12/17/16 2:10 pm

Just wait. Next election we will have Satan and a reincarnated Hitler competing for the presidency.

Agonist Iowa
12/17/16 10:00 am

Despite the national tragedy of Trump's election, I believe in the infinite resilience of the American people to overcome extreme adversity.

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Kyle5 TN
12/17/16 10:37 am

Well spoken.

CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
12/17/16 11:48 am

You're like those conservatives who thought the world was ending when obama got elected lol. Get a grip on reality son

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 9:54 am

Very optimistic. My kids are growing big, strong, and smart, my wife still puts up with me, and I'm doing great financially and emotionally. Trump can't stop me from being happy, or from carving out a good future for my kids.

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Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 10:02 am

Phal ... thanks to Mr Trump we will finally emerge from the Obama morass and the wilderness of Democrat depression!

Our children now have reason to hope that the future will again reward the industrious and hold accountable the lazy.

xInfidelx
12/17/16 1:51 pm

We have not been in a depression by any means. I'm not an Obama fan, but we haven't been in a depression.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 4:08 pm

Think, I just made six figures for the first time in my life under that 'morass,' thanks to my great union trucking job...which is a bellwether for our economy. Tell me again what the Republican (and Trumpian) position is on Labor Unions.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 4:42 pm

Oh, and I just worked 14 hours driving through a snow and ice storm. There's a 'lazy union worker' for you.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 5:41 pm

Phal ... I don't speak for Mr Trump. I can tell you that having been forced to join a union when younger. I'm very grateful to be free of the AFLCIO for thirty plus years.

Union's are a cancer on society and should be disbanded.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 7:16 pm

No one 'forced' you to join, Think...we're all free to choose what jobs we want and can get, and unions themselves are democratic organizations. You'll be missing that AFL/CIO pension you would've gotten when you retire.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 7:19 pm

No shop ever unionizes without a majority vote from the people working there. They're elected collective bargaining agents that get workers much better pay and benefits for what they do. That's hardly a 'cancer' on society. More like a choice.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 7:59 pm

Phal ... I see you really don't understand. I was hired by the company. I was content to work for the company. I was forced to join the union. Iowa is a closed-shop state.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 9:06 pm

I understand. Ohio is too. That shop was either Union when you hired in, or the Union was voted in by a majority of your coworkers. Democracy happens. I've been through an unsuccessful attempt to unionize...I know how it works.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 9:08 pm

Aaah, I see...yes, the company initially hires you, and later you have to join the Union after a probation period. That changes nothing...I'm sure you were well aware that it was a union shop before you applied for a job there.

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 9:10 pm

You could've just stuck it out and accepted promotion to foreman or supervisor, and boom, you're out of the Union. Why you would want to do that I have no idea.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 9:12 pm

Phal ... the union strangled the company. They finally shut the doors -- after 80 years -- because of the greed of the union thugs!

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 10:24 pm

It's sometimes tough to know what the real reasons are (could've been corporate greed), but it's in no one's best interest when that happens, including the Union's. Good ones have competition clauses and such in their contracts to prevent that.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 10:44 pm

Phal ... of course you can kick up fear, uncertainty and doubt from afar. I lived it up close. I saw the price of our products fall as the union demanded even higher wages.

I saw the company struggle and finally shut the doors, leaving 550 people out of work. In 1980, I made $40k as an unskilled meat cutter. That was a HUGE salary! My base was $18.60/hr and we got plenty of bonus and overtime because the union standard was held artificially low.

The company closed. The plant remained unused for two years. The Iowa Beef Processors bought it and opened it with no union. The workers are now paid $6.50/hr and no bonus.

Oh, and who do you think the plant superintendent is ... yep the old union president.

phalnx Ohio
12/18/16 12:06 am

Think, I'm not unfamiliar with how that stuff works. You all elected your union president, you had input on contract negotiations...which should've been tied closely to company profits or lack thereof, and you said yourself that you made out

phalnx Ohio
12/18/16 12:08 am

like a bandit on union wages as compared to nonunion ones. When a company fails, many factors are involved, and when a union is involved in this failure, there's plenty of blame to go around...they wouldn't have pushed for higher wages during a

phalnx Ohio
12/18/16 12:11 am

downturn if they weren't being pushed by the rank-and-filers...that's suicide. Many unions have made big concessions during bad times. The fact that your meatcutter plant was closed doesn't invalidate the whole principle of collective bargaining.

phalnx Ohio
12/18/16 12:16 am

I've worked nonunion trucking jobs before, and I know which I prefer...and honestly, I'm sure you do too. I also have confidence that we'll be just fine, because our Union does what we tell it to do. No one asks for a raise in bad times.

Think Lovin Life
12/18/16 4:54 pm

Phal ... and you think the majority in my union thought their union was in trouble? Almost all of the guys I worked with had bought all the toys and houses based on the expectation of continued work.

The greed of the union led discussions led directly to the demise of the plant. Then, so "committed " to his union brothers, the president abandon his so-called views to become the superintendent.

Union's in the 1920s served a purpose. Today they are thugs extorting money from business to perpetuate more fraud. Consumers pay a heavy tax for these thugs.

thatguy2 I am Antifa
12/17/16 9:53 am

Neutral at best. Prolly leaning pessimistic

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thaywth
12/17/16 11:42 am

Why? Why not be happy about what the future may hold? Look forward to the small joys in life and quit looking at the giant picture. No one has to change the world to be happy.

CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
12/17/16 11:48 am

Because we elected a WHITE MALE!

thaywth
12/17/16 11:51 am

Look, Donald Trump doesn't matter. As long as you are breathing, life is good. Again, the little things, like first waking up in the morning and not knowing what stupid crap you did the day before for around 30 seconds, is probably the best feeling in the world πŸ˜‚

auntiesamm Orange County CA
12/17/16 1:27 pm

The word is "probably".

thaywth
12/17/16 2:51 pm

Yup, that is a key word. But what is it that makes you all not look at the happy side of things? Being pessimistic about just about anything hasn't helped anyone.

RJ1969 SoCal
12/17/16 9:26 am

Generally, optimistic.

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Tazer Dumpster fire
12/17/16 9:08 am

Being pessimistic is a waste of time and gets you nowhere.

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TheHand If you need a hand
12/17/16 9:00 am

Scruff says "Optimism decreases with Age".

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Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
12/17/16 8:50 am

Optimistic. I just got my bachelor's degree, thank Christ.

#f*ckcollege

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leilu SoCal
12/17/16 9:04 am

Congratulations!!

RJ1969 SoCal
12/17/16 9:27 am

Nice work GF! Congrats!

Crawdaddy11 MIMNAZMN
12/17/16 9:46 am

You went to fuck college? How did you get in I hear they have crazy tough admission requirements!

phalnx Ohio
12/17/16 9:51 am

Yeah, fuck college ain't for pussies...you really need to give a shit and bust your ass!

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 10:03 am

Congrats Gun!

Crawdaddy11 MIMNAZMN
12/17/16 10:08 am

Hey watch the language man fuck college is a private Christian school and strictly prohibits cursing

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
12/17/16 10:22 am

Thank you all. The SoH community never lets me down with the hilarity.

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
12/17/16 8:53 pm

General studies, and I'm looking into doing law enforcement for a few years then doing private security contracting overseas after that.

I like money (like, a lot) and I'm not afraid to do bad things to bad people in bad places, so security contracting will be right up my alley.

gonzoboy Arizona
12/17/16 8:48 am

I am certainly optimistic about MY future, and increasingly optimistic about OUR future!

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ProudCentrist Chicago, Illinois
12/17/16 8:32 am

I'm very, very optimistic for my future.

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brentwho Home
12/17/16 8:31 am

Before election day, I would have said generally optimistic, now, it's probably 50/50 at best

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TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 8:35 am

That's funny because before Election Day I was pessimistic and now I'm totally optimistic!

brentwho Home
12/17/16 8:40 am

I'm sure there are several people who are thus misguided.

TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 8:42 am

Lmao. Same with you bub. Hillary was never going to bring anything good to America, we at least have a chance now.

RJ1969 SoCal
12/17/16 9:27 am

A chance of going to war.

TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 9:31 am

And a chance of winning a war. And a chance for better jobs. And a chance for security. And a chance for lawfulness. And, and, and....

thatguy2 I am Antifa
12/17/16 9:51 am

And a chance to live in a world completely unbound by facts and evidence.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 10:05 am

RJ ... since MrO unilaterally disarmed and snatched defeat from the arms of victory, we've been at an increasingly greater risk of war. Let's hope that intelligence will overcome the era of Obama arrogance and we can return to a world of relative peace.

brentwho Home
12/17/16 10:15 am

You're expecting greater peace with an idiot bully like Trump in the white house?
Don't hold your breath

TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 10:19 am

You expect we can go lower in the area of peace with how badly Syria is burning and ISIS is running the show in so many places? That's terrifying.

TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 10:20 am

Lol. Unbound by facts and evidence coming from the people who are blaming Hillary losing on the Russians but claim there is no way any illegal could have voted. Lmao!

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 12:00 pm

Brent ... is peace what you call the morass that MrO is leaving?

brentwho Home
12/17/16 12:10 pm

Things aren't perfect now, but Trump is the poster child for "the ugly American", there isn't anything in Trump's history to suggest that he's got the capacity to make it better

Senate101 San Diego
12/17/16 12:46 pm

You guys are too into it. Enjoy the holiday season!

TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 12:51 pm

Lol. But Hillary would have? Ya right.

valeriejo ramble on
12/17/16 2:41 pm

Listen I don't like either of them. I've never seen or heard of two worse possible candidates for president in the history of the United States to be honest. But at least Hillary could speak in proper sentences.

TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 2:49 pm

Ya I think "bigly" was the word of this election haha. But they literally was the only thing going going for her and her arrogance and corruption proved to damaging for voters to trust the presidency to her.

AmericanWolf For the Benefit of All
12/17/16 8:24 am

Optimistic, although more so for the world than for myself in particular.

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Ebola1 Florida
12/17/16 8:09 am

Optimistic in general.

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BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
12/17/16 7:52 am

Optimistic! I KNOW everything isn't & won't be perfect, but I tend to focus on the positive unless someone brings up those other things.

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goerkecarol Aurora, Colorado
12/17/16 7:51 am

Because I know where I'm going, Heaven.

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Crawdaddy11 MIMNAZMN
12/17/16 9:47 am

I know too, and stop calling me heaven

goerkecarol Aurora, Colorado
12/17/16 9:50 am

That didn't make any sense, you are not Heaven!

DeathSheep Michigan
12/17/16 12:51 pm

You're misuse of grammar allowed for a joke that went straight over your head mate lol

goerkecarol Aurora, Colorado
12/17/16 2:21 pm

Yes, I get it. You have a mean streak, don't you?

DeathSheep Michigan
12/17/16 2:30 pm

Who me? Or the reference to the joke from Airplane?

cowboy Come on, man
12/17/16 7:21 am

I've always thought about the future.

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DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 7:20 am

I would say I'm a cynical optimist, but not a pessimist.

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Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 10:08 am

Was ... I'd suggest that you're just desperate to draw attention to yourself by posing as strange.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 11:20 am

It's true. I'm optimistic about the future, but cynical about the past and present.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 12:51 pm

Was ... you're just another snowflake crying for attention.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 1:02 pm

Why the hell did you feel the need to respond? You're just being a dick for the sake of being a dick.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 1:08 pm

Was ... no, just musing that you seem to need relevance by over complicating nearly ever topic.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 1:22 pm

Who said anything about needing relevance? This app is about having fun. Why do you feel the need to criticize me on even the most banal topics?

orgblu10 Shamerica
12/17/16 4:06 pm

One correction, Doc. This place USED to be about having fun.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 4:55 pm

I used to have Think on ignore for things like this.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 5:37 pm

Was ... and your response was totally reasonable, right?

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 6:01 pm

Which one? You said a lot of condescending things for me to respond to.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 6:05 pm

Was ... fascinating! I didn't ask about what I said, now did I? Isn't it interesting that when I ask you to take responsibility for YOUR own comments, you look at my comments instead.

Why do you think that is?

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 6:06 pm

I was asking which of my comments you want me to take responsibility for. I'm willing to take responsibility for everything I say online, including comments in this thread. But what the hell are you on about?

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 6:08 pm

Was ... at 1:02pm MST, you said:

"Why the hell did you feel the need to respond? You're just being a d**k for the sake of being a d**k."

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 6:21 pm

Yes, I take responsibility for that comment. I don't know why the hell you do it, but you rarely hesitate to find something to harass me about. I don't know why the hell you do it.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 6:22 pm

Yes, I take responsibility for that comment. I don't know why the hell you do it, but you rarely hesitate to find something to harass me about. I don't know why the hell you do it.

Think Lovin Life
12/17/16 6:24 pm

Was ... I guess your a victim, aren't you! You make ridiculous statements but don't want to be accountable for them. Yep, you're a leftist.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/17/16 6:24 pm

I just said I take full responsibility for the comment, and that I want to be accountable for everything I say online. Where are you coming up with this bullshit?

phalnx Ohio
12/18/16 12:20 am

Wow, Think...to get under DoctorWasdarb's skin...that's a real talent you have lol!

Think Lovin Life
12/18/16 7:02 am

Phal ... don't be ridiculous yet again.

Kay41 the Midwest
12/17/16 6:59 am

Optimistic. I do what I can to steer my personal life in a positive direction. As for the things I can't control...I stay optimistic to help maintain good mental health. Being optimistic doesn't mean being a Pollyanna or closing your eyes to the negative things in life though. There's a balance.

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truenuff
12/17/16 6:58 am

Really optimistic now that Trump will be president.

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soh12
12/17/16 6:55 am

We are moving forward in plenty of things. We are living longer, are getting smarter, and the rest of the world is becoming less poor. Countries like India and China have brought hundreds of millions of people out of poverty in a few decades, and we will see these countries poverty free in the 21st century. Genetic engineering is allowing us to fix people with disabilities and other diseases. In fact, a young girl named Layla in the U.K. was cured of her leukemia using gene editing technology. Racism and sexism are slowly dying out. This century will be good in general. We will have problems like every other generation, but I think we are in a better situation.

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TiredofIt Texas
12/17/16 8:38 am

I like everything you have to say except that "China and India will be poverty free in the 21st century". Sorry but no they won't. America still has poverty and we've been fighting a War On Poverty for over 50 years and made no serious progress.

ELATeacher
12/17/16 6:55 am

Depends on what you mean by future.

Future of this world, of human society and culture: pessimistic.

Future as is in the afterlife, heaven, and God's ultimate plan for His creation: optimistic.

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bluerum29 optimistic idealist
12/17/16 6:50 am

Depends, most things I'm optimistic about, buy there are a couple biggies I have no faith in any more

whomstve99 Republic of Texas
12/17/16 6:48 am

Seeing the amount of kids who supported Bernie, I'm pretty scared for the future.

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Gstamatinos New York
12/17/16 12:08 pm

Funny, that's one of the few things that has me optimistic

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
12/17/16 6:38 am

The glass is always half full for meπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ˜ƒ

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TheHand If you need a hand
12/17/16 9:06 am

Mine too! 🍷🍹🍸🍺

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
12/17/16 9:29 am

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